The Lokpal is designed to be a comprehensive anti-corruption institution independent of the government, empowered to effectively investigate corruption of all public servants. But most of the critical elements in this vision have been rejected.
The latest draft report of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) on hydrocarbon production sharing contracts and the transfer of oilfields to Reliance is only the latest of the mega scams to surface in the country. The breadth and depth of corruption in India is clear from the country's plunging ranking in Transparency International's global corruption survey. Corruption has come to affect every citizen in the country. Bribes have to be paid for ration cards, passports, building permits, and for doing even normal business. Street vendors and rickshaw pullers are forced to pay bribes for exercising their fundamental rights. Villagers are forced to pay bribes for getting their wages under the Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee Act (NREGA) or for any other entitlements in other schemes. High-level corruption is plundering the public exchequer, distorting government policies, and creating a criminal mafia, which has come to dominate all institutions of power. Low-level corruption is making life impossible for common citizens.
A major reason for this rampant, widespread corruption is the lack of an independent, empowered, and accountable anti-corruption institution that can be trusted to credibly investigate complaints of corruption and prosecute the guilty. The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) is controlled by the very people who are the fountainheads of this corruption and is required to seek the permission of the very people who need to be investigated and prosecuted. The Central Vigilance Commissioner of India (CVC) is selected by the Prime Minister, the Home Minister, and the Leader of Opposition, who have a vested interest in ensuring that weak bureaucrats get selected. Moreover, the CVC has only recommendatory powers and most of his or her recommendations are disregarded by the government, which wants to protect corrupt public servants. The courts take years to conclude trials and there is also considerable corruption in the judiciary because of the lack of accountability of the higher judiciary and the lack of an effective anti-corruption agency to investigate corruption within its ranks.
This is why we have been demanding the constitution of an independent Lokpal institution — which will be completely independent of the government, empowered to effectively investigate corruption of all public servants of the Central government, including the Prime Minister, the judiciary, etc. (with Lokayuktas in the States to investigate public servants of the State governments and local bodies), and accountable in multiple ways to ensure that any corruption in the Lokpal institution would be immediately investigated and action taken. This is exactly what is required by the United Nations Convention against Corruption (UNCAC), which has just been ratified by India after much delay.
In the Jan Lokpal Bill proposed by us, the 11-member Lokpal would be selected by a broad-based selection committee consisting of the Prime Minister, the Leader of Opposition, the Chief Election Commissioner of India (CEC), the CAG, two Judges of the Supreme Court, and two Chief Justices of the High Courts. The selection would be done transparently by first setting up a search committee consisting of retired CECs and CAGs who would first call for public nominations, then prepare a shortlist which would be put up on a website for public comments about the shortlisted candidates after which the selection committee would finally select the members.
This 11-member Lokpal would have a full investigative agency under its control through which it would get complaints investigated. If corruption is found after investigation, the corrupt public servant would be prosecuted in special courts within the judicial system. The Bill provides that the number of special courts to try corruption cases would be increased to ensure that trials are completed within a year. Proceedings for removal of the corrupt public servant would also be initiated by the Vigilance Department under the Lokpal, which would give a full opportunity for hearing to the public servant. The Lokpal's final recommendation for penalty against the public servant would be binding on the government. This would ensure that the bosses of the corrupt public servants who are often complicit in their corruption cannot protect them, as is happening today.
The Lokpal would thus be a comprehensive anti-corruption institution independent of the government. The 11 members of the Lokpal would be accountable to the Supreme Court of India, which would examine complaints against them and order their removal. The investigative and vigilance machinery under the Lokpal would be accountable to independent complaints authorities created in each State, apart from to the Lokpal itself. Moreover, the Lokpal institution would be subject to a financial and performance audit by the CAG. Most importantly, the functioning of the Lokpal would be mandated to be transparent and the details of its investigations would be put up on its website. Also, the orders of the Lokpal would be subject to judicial review by the High Courts and the Supreme Court.
In the last two meetings of the Joint Drafting Committee (JDC), the Ministers representing the government rejected most of the critical elements in this vision of the Lokpal. They see the Lokpal as an essentially 11-member institution where all decisions would have to be taken by these members themselves. Instead of a comprehensive anti-corruption machinery, they see it as an institution to look at a few cases of high-level corruption. Even there, they do not want the Prime Minister, the higher judiciary, and the Members of Parliament who take bribes for voting or speaking in Parliament to be covered. Also, they want the Lokpal to be merely a recommendatory body like the CVC in matters relating to the removal of corrupt public servants.
They were neither willing to debate these issues publicly nor even willing to place the audio records of the meetings on a public website. They were also not prepared to debate these issues further between us. It has therefore been decided that the Ministers would prepare their own draft and we would prepare our draft of the Lokpal Bill, each of which would be placed before the Cabinet, which would decide which Bill would be placed before Parliament.
We are repeatedly being told that laws have to be made by the elected representatives of the people and civil society has no role to play. This view shows an arrogance of power. Those running the government have forgotten that they are merely the representatives of the people and they must run the government and make laws as per their wishes. Therefore, while deciding which Lokpal Bill to pass, they must find out what the people want and, if they have any doubt about that, they can have a referendum on the disputed issues.
The people of this country are fed up with the all-pervasive massive corruption in the country and are determined to have a strong and independent Lokpal. Any government or party that goes against the wishes of the people will do it at its own peril.
(This article by Team Anna was submitted to The Hindu by Prashant Bhushan, one of the members of Team Anna on the Joint Drafting Committee of the Jan Lokpal Bill.)
Keywords: Lokpal, fight against corruption, Anna Hazare




Kudos Anna Hazare to stand up and taking this fight. I live in USA but my heart belongs to India and it pains to see how our politicians/public servants are looting our country. Its time to curb this corruption once and for all and this can be done impartially only by an independent agency without any government interference. I am thankfull to you and my support is with you.
It pains to see India being looted and government sitting peacefully. What is happening is wrong. We elected the government is for our and country's betterment but the purpose is not being served. It is high time that we support Sir Anna Hazare, Baba Ramdev and others who are fighting against corruption.
Raise your voice and fight now, else it will be too late.
The article is an eye opener and lucidly explains the problems at issue. There is a need for introducing new system of Lokpal to curb corruption in public offices. The present machinery has woefully failed. No more delay in introducing the Lokpal Bill and that too an effective one. I SUPPORT ANNA HAZARE. HE RIGHTLY SPEAKS MY MIND AND THOSE OF COMMON PEOPLE OF INDIA.
The eminent lawyers sitting on the other side of the table from government side will have to repent for their disservice to the Indian democracy and public.
I am sick of this painting the anti-corruption protests and movement as communal.Try corrupt separately. Try comunal people separately for their crimes. Congress should be identified as institute of national excellence for corruption. Others are also not that well behind. They are fast catching up.
Corruption has now become a part and parcel of these politicians and they even can't think beyond this. Every now and then so many scams keep occuring but its only few which comes in front of whole nation. Before this disease crosses all the limits we have to bring the conditions under our control. Lokpal is the only alternative now.
The Anna Team is fighting a valiant fight against government corruption. I wish them success. But, it would appear that the government and parliament are opposing it vehemently.
Team Anna explained the problem in a greater detail than their other documents I had seen. I would have liked Team Anna to go to every district to address the people explaining to them that the money saved from all levels of corruption can actually be used for many beneficial projects as well as to increase salaries of honest officials and government workers. In the Jan Lok Pal era, papers will move faster; justice will be served quickly and fairly; and faster development takes place.
Richard Nixon was the 37th President of the United States, was impeached during his presidency. In the face of likely impeachment for his role in the Watergate scandal,[1] Nixon resigned on August 9, 1974."
Abdul, You seem to know the history but your conclusion is wrong. Mr. Nixon was tried by the elected parliament and not by any lokpal like Anna & his associates.
PM of India can be tried in Lok Sabha and fired in India.Paliament chooses the PM.
Anna is trying to make a parallel govt hurting constitution and the elected government. Let parliament make Lokpal and let us see if it can eliminate or even decrease corruption. No Lokpal has put a dozen big shots like Raja, Kalmadi etc in jail.
Have patience and educate people to have two party system and let Democracy be successful. All ministers and officers are not corrupt.
Team Anna : You have my full support. It's high time we started cleaning the system and Lokpal bill seems to be a very good step in this regard. There has to be a regulatory system which is independent to control corruption. Would like to see a system similar to EC.
Bow to you guys for your effort.
Once he has elected an MP/ MLA the aam admi forfeits his right to question or criticize his representative. He loses his voice. The politician feels empowered to grab land and rob and plunder the country. Their arrognce is evident from the way the CWC has branded the civil society's agitation as a challenge to a ligitimately elected government. The CWC feels it has done enough. For a country as large and problem-ridden as India can any government do enough. Worse, they have argued that the protests by the unelected actors as a bane on the parliamentary system. Yeah, how many aam admis have crores of tainted money and if they are angry at the politicians they are only suffering from the 'sour grapes' syndrome.
If the govt and parliament manage to scuttle a strong lokpal bill, then as a next step Team Anna should spearhead a mass movement to ostracise socially the politicians and political parties who helped in scuttling the bill. A movement supported by press and media should exhort the public to stay away from political meetings and even go to the extent of boycotting even family functions of politicians. Team Anna should now start contingency planning on the above lines.It is a second freedom struggle and it would be naive on our part to expect it to be won easily.
For your education if you do not already know this ---- See how Lokpal Bill can curb the politicians , Circulate it to create awareness Existing System, System Proposed by civil society:
No politician or senior officer ever goes to jail despite huge evidence because Anti Corruption Branch (ACB) and CBI directly come under the government. Before starting investigation or initiating prosecution in any case, they have to take permission from the same bosses, against whom the case has to be investigated. Lokpal at centre and Lokayukta at state level will be independent bodies. ACB and CBI will be merged into these bodies. They will have power to initiate investigations and prosecution against any officer or politician without needing anyone’s permission. Investigation should be completed within 1 year and trial to get over in next 1 year. Within two years, the corrupt should go to jail.
Our politicians have excelled in finding ways of scientific corruption. Brazenly corrupt, blatantly arrogant they still think that as has been in the last sixty some years they could carry on their corrupt practices and try all ways and means to put stumbling blocks in the creation of a Lokpal. Their notorious plans should be crushed by a mass uprising mobilised by news media like The Hindu. Please continue your great service. India and her people will ever bethankful.
@Pradeep Sudini: 3. 'undermine the PM's capacity' - As mentioned already, setting proper processes will prepare people for these kind of new approaches. And will not result in breakdown of sytems. And Lok Pal institution is what most of the people want - and hence it is as democratic and parliament. Big and small - let Lok Pal Institution handle all. So, the number of cases will reflect how corrupt India is. Moreover, it might be lot of cases to beign with. But it will come down over time. Maybe it will attain a equilibrium or there will be a cycle. If the Lok Pal needs to handle lot of cases, make it a huge organization which will provide employment. If the Lok pal becomes small due to less cases - then India will be happy that there is less corruption. But it should not become a half-hearted approach where some (PM, Judiciary, MP in parliament, etc. ) are left out. Then it will be waste of time, energy, and money for a marginal benefit.
I live in the United States and like to share one more incident. This happened during the first few week on my arrival to US. While playing with my kid in the park I lost my wallet. I did not know what to do and called 911 the only number I knew then but did not realize that 911 is only for emergency calls. The officer who picked up the call was not angry when I told I lost my wallet in the park but took details and said that she will find someone to help me out. After two days my colleague called over my extension to say that an officer is asking for me at the front desk. When I went there I saw this officer with a wallet in hand. He asked me to identify my purse and gave it back to me. I immediately looked into the purse and it had all I kept in it (Including the money). As a token of appreciation I gave him a $20 bill and he did not take it but said, "thank you for paying taxes". Initially I did not understand and my friend said he means he is paid salary by our taxes.
This is political stunt. This is very vital topic here every single individual needs to take resolution on corruption. It is very tough to control in this materialistic world. We are very much set to accept speed money trend.Only poor of this country is sufferer. Everywhere we see and analyze that. we the citizen of this country promotes/ encourages wrong work. I am not convinced with this process. Forcefully no one can stop wrong doing and no legislation will be effective if there is no will of individual. There are several burning issue which is yet not touched with correct intention.
Instead of Hazare going on fast from August 16 he should bring in the public to fight against corruption. Mahatma Gandhi brought in several movements like uncooperative moment... Hazare should bring in something like that against government... Then the Government will actually understand the gravity of the issue...
Great article.... Citizens of INDIA will agree to this Bill. This a very true statement: "We are repeatedly being told that laws have to be made by the elected representatives of the people and civil society has no role to play. This view shows an arrogance of power. Those running the government have forgotten that they are merely the representatives of the people and they must run the government and make laws as per their wishes." These politicians are trying to play safe... If they don't agree better resign now than being thrown away. Ruling Govt cannot pass there own draft bill. There is no use of it. Entire nation is supporting Anna and Others who have drafted this bill.
I agree to the last part of the article, "The people of this country are fed up with the all-pervasive massive corruption in the country and are determined to have a strong and independent Lokpal. Any government or party that goes against the wishes of the people will do it at its own peril." I and my family have been congress supporters for years now, but we will vote against them if they fail to rise to this occassion.
Nice article. I have been following the news for the past week or so and am very eager to find out the final result of the meeting to be held today. I am with the civil society with their view that a strong lokpal bill should be passed to remove the corruption from the country but based on my understanding, I think that government is right in saying that forming such a 11- member independent commitee would require abundant resources and management of it on the national scale would be difficult. Also I favour the view of the government that maintains that PM can be considered under the lokpal bill only but only after he retires from the PM post and he can be subjected to any investigation then. Hoping for a strong result to come out from today's meeting which would benifit the citizens of the country and mark a landmark step in removing the corruption from the nation.
This is a great opportunity to sow the seeds of true democracy in India. The initiative and the efforts of Team Anna deserve to be complimented and supported by all. The politicizing of the government and the consequent opening up of the floodgates of influence peddling and corruption in governance, both in the administration and business, have gained strength to defeat genuine democracy - government of the people, by the people and for the people. The separation of the governing political class from the public, except to seek votes at the time of elections, has been ever-widening. The ruling party or coalition has assumed unquestionable superiority. There is no value or respect for transparency in day-today administration. If the Cabinet members of the Lokpal Committee realize that they are, foremost, servants of the people, they will have no fear of the Lokpal Bill covering the PM and the like. That is how it should be if India were to rise to be a world power.
The very constitution of the present drafting committee of the Lok Pal Bill is problematic. On the one hand, it reveals the unnecessary fear on the part of the government of the civil society and its utter ineptness in handling the issue at hand. UPA and particularly, the Prime Minister should have demonstrated greater sense of political maturity and pragmatism. The UPA government is to be blamed for the fiasco it finds itself in. On the other hand, it shows Anna Hazare Team's sense of superciliousness. The representatives of the government in the drafting committee have the mandate of the people, as they are the elected representatives. What mandate does the Anna Hazare team have? Aren't they elected by themselves rather than by the people of India? With all due respect for Anna Hazare and his team for their commitment to fight corruption, I beg to raise the following questions: What credentials does Anna Hazare have (except that he has headed the anti-corruption movement and the nation appreciates him for that) to be a vital part of such a very important drafting committee in terms of his constitutional expertise and experience. He should have shown the sagacity to stay out of the committee and worked from outside for strengthening the movement he started. Here is what I feel should have been done by the Government and the Anna Team. Apart from the government representatives, the drafting committee should have been constituted of two members from the Anna Hazare team, preferably Santosh Hegde and one of the Bushans, selected members of the national parties from the opposition, and a few eminent retired Supreme Court judges and constitutional experts. Such a team would have been far more competent than the present committee, and would have been better placed to deal with the complex issues involved in the drafting.
To me, the Team Anna Hazare's version of the Lokpal Institution- as brought out in its proposed draft bill- is very effective and is sure to clean the society of the malady of corruption to a large extent. The Government should have no hesitation whatsoever in accepting this draft bill forthwith for adoption and in making it a law as early as possible. Any objection to it from the Government would only reflect upon its non seriousness for having a strong law against corruption and thereby upon its tacit willingness to let the present system run as it is.
The Congress is not understanding the ground reality. There is a overwhelming antagonism against the party for thwarting all actions aimed at corruption and Lokpal bill. If they do not understand this and act accordingly, they will bite the dust in the next elections. Tamil Nadu is an example of this.
Corruption is so rampant in our country that it has almost become a way of life. This insidious malady afflicting all sections of our society is undoubtedly a product of our very corrupt political culture.If we have a strong Lokpal bill which can reign in these politicians,corruption at lower levels would automatically vanish.Since 1992 the numerous scams that came to light amount to an accumilative total of approx. 10 million crores.Most of those responsible for these scams were politicians but till today not a single politician has been punished.This obviously is due to the reluctance of the investigating agencies like police and CBI to act against their political masters. When Mr Sibal comes out with the ludicrous argument that Lokpal bill can not give the poor man food,gas cylinders or roads,he should be told that if millions of crores were not plundered in scams,the poor would have got all these and this is what a strong Lokpal bill is aiming at.
The government members in the drafting panel are talking about keeping the PM out of Lokpal's ambit, without giving a single rational argument to support. As long as the PM is brought in the ambit of Lokpal, even a corrupt person as PM would be forced to be honest, fearing the dagger of Lokpal. If not, he has nothing to fear, as his Party men will naturally rally around him to save the image of the Party. On the other hand, if the PM is honest and a person of unimpeachable integrity, he has absolutely nothing to fear from the Lokpal covering him. The stand taken by government is including the PM in the Lokpal scanner will make him dysfunctional, as there may be frivolous allegations. This argument has no basis and laws can always be made right away to award even up to life imprisonment for those making allegations of corruption against PM,which are found to be baseless on scrutiny by Lokpal. Even so,these are at worst to be considered as occupational hazards to be faced by an honest PM.
Where there is a will there is a way. The vigour with which Anna ji is being stalled and Ramdev was forced to abandon the fast, if the same vigour is channelled into removing corruption, then India will be really Sujalam Sufalam. Their methods may not be &'constitutional' but now we have come to a stage where the end matters not the means. And so far the so called constitutional methods have not worked since 1947 is it not? The rot started with Krishna Menon's pardon,then saying that 'Corruption is world wide' and now corruption is the rule. It is very sad but from 'We the people'..it has become 'We the politicians'... Excluding the sitting PM from the perview is very odd. Given the current working style of all political parties, PM will become the safe heaven for corruption.
Having read the article and the comments that follow, I am dismayed at some responses which seem well written, but not well intended. To berate civil society members / team Anna, by calling them 'unelected' is, one, a line stolen from the Congress script sheet, and two, the evidence of short sightedness. Agreed that they may not 'represent' masses in the traditional way that relies on voting to get elected and hence 'represent' the populace. However, we need to ask whether the political class that gets elected this way, is truly representative of the masses? They are representative of those who vote, and thus, should be never above 50% of the entire population, as we have, on average, never accomplished elections where voter turn out has been greater than 50%. Agreed that it shows lack of responsibility on our part - no question about that. But here, we are talking about 'representation' and not lack of voter turn out.
Great Article.All good people will like the article.Only corrupt people and supporters of corrupt will disagree with the Anna team.Go Ahead Anna Team..
Now when the government is saying that it is going to draft the bill by 30 june and civil society team is not taking part in any of meeting it will draft the bill on its own and its so commited that it will pass it with every effort. Then will any one in there answer a simple question that what the government has been doing for such a long time.. They are only doing this because that should not have adiquate discussion on it and draft a very poor bill and why dont they discuss publically..
We need to fight corruption but not by creating a parallel agency not accountable to anybody. Need of the hour is of a more informed and a wider debate including all the stakeholders. Moreover, threat of fast is absolutely no way of formulation of legislation especially with such wider ramifications for people of India. Team Anna as well as govt must work together to provide an institution on which Indians can be proud of; it should not be so toothless as to be ineffective and it should not be so powerful as to undermine the democratic structure of our country.
First of all I want to Congratulate Team Anna for fighting against Corrupt Politician and I respect their noble cause.Some section of society, media and general people feel that how Lokpall bill will stop corruption when Higher Judiciary,bureaucrats and even people selecting these politician are corrupt. How this one lokpall bill can revolutionize the whole Indian system and stop corruption? But at some point of time we have to realize that if we will not put faith in noble initiatives then how we will realize a corruption free India. Yes it is true any nation which select corrupt politicians can not expected to be free of corrupt and criminal acts.But a strong,independent investigation system can put a check on these wrong deeds and can slow down the so called 'corruption Katrina' or even prevent them.
@Ashish Kumar Lal: We can keep asking 'what if it fails' interminably. Then we will never act. Right now, the best thing to do would be to bring Lokpal bill. And correct it where it fails. If even after that there are problems, we can seek a new methodoloy that will replace Lokpal Bill. That is the way forward. @Dhvani: As for your question 'what if it goes corrupt' - Please read the article above. "The 11 members of the Lokpal would be accountable to the Supreme Court of India...subject to judicial review by the High Courts and the Supreme Court." Or you think this is not enough? (In the current system, this accountability and independence is lacking. Or we can try to make CBI, CVC completely independent and accountable organizations. Along with strong Judicial Standards and Accountability bill.)
In the second term of UPA government , it has totally changed its behaviour and going towars the dictatorship as we now in democracy every body has given the right to rise or demonstrate for any act or law of government in a peacefull way. And same demostration was done by the Baba Ramdev and govt showed its true colour of Dictatorship by attacking on the inocent people and mood towards fight against corruption.
I think the drafting committe should not worry about the PM being included whilst in office. The PM's office staff however are included and this is enough to keep the PM honest.
Kudos to Team Anna. Absolutely referendum is the way to go for any disputed issues. Framers of the constitution did not visualize India to be run by Kings for every five years. They meant the constitution and the government to be for and by the people. The ruling class obviously does not want to commit suicide by bringing in lokpal bill with tooth! Going has been good so far for the past 60 years and since politics is primarily a family business they want it continued that way!
We really appreciate your effort and support you in this endeavour to bring strong lokpal bill. Jai hind.
Regards,
Rakesh
I have different opinion on two issues raised by team Anna:
I agree with the government argument that PM should be included in the ambit of lokpal but complaints must be investigated only after the Prime Minister leaves office. Because of the following reasons: 1) With coalition governments and irresponsible media, any allegation against the PM to lokpal will destabilize the government or maybe results in fall of the government. Even if the Prime Minister found not guilty after an enquiry by Lokpal, the damage done to the country would be considerable and irreversible. 2) The Prime Minister in the democracy occupies a pivotal position, and his accountability should be only to the Lok Sabha; and not any appointed authority. Otherwise we are question the existence of our electoral system and Democracy itself. 3) Any enquiry into a PM's official conduct by any authority other than the Parliament would severely undermine the PM's capacity to lead the government. Such weakening of the PM's would surely lead to serious failure of governance and lack of harmony and coordination and goes against public interest. Also I agree with the government view that lokpal should only look at the cases of high-level corruption because of the following reasons:
India has about 20 million ( 2 crore) government employees; If Lokpal/Lokayukta is flooded with innumerable complaints against millions of low level officials, its efficacy will be eroded. You may argue that they have CBI to investigate, but are they not corrupt? Lokpal should address the grand corruption, clean up the top level leaders in the organization so that in turn they will clean up the rest of the lower level organization. Some of the above arguments/reasons are based on the 'Round Table on Lok Pal' held in New Delhi, on April 24, 2011 and notes on loksatta website.
Looking at this debate statistically which will be the baseline for any political party (be it in India or elsewhere) to rely on will elucidate on how big this nexus is. These days due to media, NGO or other nonprofit organizations, political parties will always be on their toes to keep their images clean and do a damage controlling exercise as and when needed but they are not in that mode even after this hue and cry clearly tells the story. This relentless battle which was not started recently as so many people see by pouring in their solidarity and support just like other mass movements has in fact took many years to come to this stage. Now coming to my starting point of statistics, these political parties have got enough vote bank (numbers) to secure their positions (safe heavens) even if they are not passing this bill and now this pomp and show being showcased by government is just an eye wash and buying time to save their skins. There are more black sheep in our society now then to trust anybody as a savior. Now the moral of the story is, it is not just cleansing of the top brass but see to yourself and around you bring uniform code of conduct and bring everybody under its gambit. Treat everybody uniformly from bill collector to district collector to PM. This bill can't take shape through either discussions or fasting but can happen only by us (people) by taking this to every nook and corner of India (true freedom of speech). Enlightening people of India both urban and rural, rich and poor and then make this as a mass movement which has got power to topple any government. That is when people like Anna's dream can be fulfilled and true color of India can be seen. Please just don't follow Anna but follow his dream by taking onto our shoulders and passing this to others. We can't just share the fruit of happiness which is corrupt free India but also we need to share the pain in getting that fruit to pass it onto next generations.
As we all know, most of our Ministers in the present government are corrupt and of course they are scared of action being taken against them by the Lokpal. Therefore, assurance may be given to the corrupt Ministers that they will be pardoned for their corrupt act until today, so that they can cooperate in preparing a meaningful draft and pass the bill without any fear. Ministers should understand that they are not going to rule the country for ever. Politics should not be considered as a family business. Respect the views and voice of the people without creating dramatic situations.
To teach the existing political partys a lesson 'Anna Hazare' should launch a political outfit and contest the general elections. You will be supprised that he is going to cross 400 MP seats in the parliament and only then he can bring the change or else this will remain a dream.
I have a feeling that the congress party ( begining with the prime minister himself) think that the issue of corruption is a monster created by the media. In their bubble they see things working as they have always been, and they are correct about that. Corruption has become a way of life for the ruling (neta) class, that is how they conduct business, thats how they get elected, thats how tickets are distributed by political parties. Short of a Mandal style agitation they would not change their views.
Our Parliament and Legislative assemblies which were sacrosanct institutions for a couple of decades after independence have become tainted because of various malpractices indulged in by our political class.Horse-trading,Cash for questions are a regular feature that we come across in our democracy these days.There is an absolute need to bring them under the Lokpal bill as wanted by Team Anna.Apart from this,the PM and the higher judiciary too have be under the purview as no one is above the law and all are equal before it.To say that including the PM under the Lokpal bill will bring the government to a standstill is a spurious argument.If the PM has not committed any wrong doing,he should have no hesitation to face any sort of inquiry.Only if he is complicit,he would be hampered to carry out to his duties.So the inclusion of the PM under the Lokpal bill is required so that it sends the right message to the citizens that the crusade against corruption will not spare even the highest executive functionary of the state.
Lokpal institution if instituted properly may make some dent on high level corruption. Everybody invokes the common man's woes, but none including the so called civil society members have proposed anything to reduce the day to day corruption faced by the people. No high powered institution can be effective in this. We need grass root changes. The media and the leaders of all kinds are indulging in delusion, nay even deceit, by projecting lokpal as the saviour of common man's problems.
The contents of this inspiring article should be translated in all the local languages to reach the masses, to counter effectively the disinformation campaign against the anti- corruption crusaders by the vested interests on the other side. When the public speaks in one voice,the government will have to listen and act and cannot evade its duty.
The idea of a janlokpal bill seems to be very appealing. However, its implementation will definitely be an issue like with the current laws existing in India. Its not that we do not have any anticorruption or investigating agencies....where we fail is effectively managing and implementing them. Since lokpal seems to be an independent body what if it goes corrupt. People constituting the lokpal will not be extraterrestrial, they will be one amongst us...how do we know that their conscious is clear. What if they lose track after cracking a couple of cases. I am neither a great fan of Congress nor BJP, but changes cannot be expected overnite with corruption being so predominant. Even if lokpal is introduced, an effective implementation will be a key to its success. This will very well take time and in the meantime we should alteast focus on what the govt is trying to do. I request the media to play a more responsive role in educating the aam aadmi about the intricacies of the lokpal bill. Pls do not focus on "he said she said" business during this time.
We Indians need to support Anna Hazare and his team. We all should support Anna's 16th August fast.
Even the common man knows how the corruption emanates in India. It is the power of the beaurocrats and its sale value. Lokpal consists of people from all walks of life and should check themselves from temptations in addition to have the power to prosecute the corrupt. Why the Goverment is resistant to this body? Something to hide? Sooner or later they must accept the notion that corruption has to be eradicated in this country. Before it is too late, the Government should hear the voice of the people. But I see the nothing but ridicule and arrogance in the faces of Kapil Sibal and Chidambaram.
There have been repeated statements that democracy is being weakened by civil society members. But such concerns never crop up when democracy is massacred by the very elected representatives in blatant and unaccountable ways, be in corruption, criminal-politician-babu nexus. We need strong independent accountable institutions to check this malaise. And Jan Lokpal is only the first step. This should be followed by Electoral reforms, which too is very important, so it can clean up the political space, enabling decent people to get into it. All the best Team Anna!
Congress has vested interests. They want to protect their money which is stashed abroad and in India through their benamis. They have a hidden hand some obvious in every big scandal and money making opportunities and big projects. Manomohan singh is just a pawn in the hands of the goons and vested interests who are controlling the party. He is unable to taken any decisions and has kept mum ever since the controversy broke out. That speaks volumes on Governance and the authority he has on any of the ministers. I have lost complete respect for him despite all the good things he had initiated for the country. It is high time he goes and we have some one who can make decisions. Anna and team despite all the controversies are probably demanding the right things and some of it are path breaking which is challenging the status quo. Unless we start doing these it is impossible to bring in fundamental change. I am only praying that they succeed.
I believe a referendum is one of the few ways to decide whether the electoral populace wants the Lokpal bill as proposed by the Civil Society. The only issue is a referendum would be a massive undertaking and would only delay the process by a couple of years which would only make things easier for the government to weaken the anti-corruption movement. I propose that instead of a constitutional referendum, we all do a poll within our own immediate society, say offices, universities, schools and publish the results on a common portal. This would even put more pressure on the government since 'Civil Society'; in its entirety would be involved.
The government says that people are being cynical and that it's serious about uprooting corruption. Well, if that is the case, why have all these comments been coming immediately after the movement began. They were in power for at least 40 years before that too. If they were really serious about corruption before, why are so many big scams being unearthed day after day. After 60 years of corrupt bureaucracy, politicians and other public servants, I believe we have sufficient causes to be a cynic.
If the government fails to understand that they are nothing but a body 'for, of and by' the people, then what are we, as common man, supposed to do ? We do not want politicians anymore in the government, we just want people's representatives. Are they people representatives? Is it possible to form a so called actual people's representatives to be elected to the parliament? The more these parties become aged, the more they become greedy, corrupt and adamant. They just take it for granted that they would anyway be elected and be it that they are in the ruling side or in the opposition, they just have their ways.
"Corruption is our birthright" - is the message from the political-beurucratic community. The malaise is across the board. It would be churlish to pin it on one or the other party. People in power react to only one motivation - 'force'. Reason and rationale have zero standing. It is a pity that Swami Ramdev, a green horn in politics, jumped in trying to steal the thunder with his mish-mash of unfocuused, impertinent demands. Team India needs to support Team Anna. I can see that some memebers of the executive branch need protection from the Lokpal for an ability to exercise some discretionary powers by a 'larger interpretation of the law'. Team Anna should negotiate the best deal for bringing the rest under discipline
Team Anna will be bullied by the Congress, and is most likely to fail in its objective. I fail to share the optimism of Team Anna trying to make the government pass any useful bill in fighting graft.
If the government is unwilling to investigate their own babus and politicians who indulge in corruption, how can we expect the same government to create laws that can possibly go much further? Lets face it: this governments is run by a cabal of corrupt politicians, greedy corporates and incompetent babus. Manmohan Singh is just a mask to cover up and divert attention. The leaders of the ruling party and Opposition are likely to be hand-in-glove in some of the scams (2G, ISRO, KG, etc.), so nothing useful will come out of the Lokpal bill.
If we need freedom from these three forces (babus, corporates and politicians), it's going to take a big long revolution, similar to our freedom struggle, where the masses need to have a focused goal. It looks very unlikely
Anna Hazare and Civil society has only one option left to fight it out in Public. The matter should be brought to streets and Public domain. It is only public whose support is necessary to pass the JLP bill.Congress,NCP,TMC.DMK UPA would not get going the bill as they fear that their corruption would be exposed. Anna should not wait for 15th August for fasting,but start nationwide agitation/movement all over the country by protest march by IAC and CS.We lost all hopes on this corrupt govt and our hope is only people.UPA govt has all public support but the constitutional propriety of 5 years term has kept it in office. But it has lost all public support and it must be ousted. Anna Hazare is the binding factor for anti corruption people,but he must be taking political supports from all opposition parties and non congress parties which would give them credence in passing their bill in LS.By such rehetoric in open they wouldnot win the war on corruption.It is not a movement for them or their coterie but for all the people of India.They must be aware that congress wouldnot allow them to get the JLP bill passed.They were victimized by the congress govt all along they started the movement by exposing of bhusans in fake CD,Anna in his home village and may more vendetta measures.Anna Hazare shouldnot be a tool in the hands of people like Agnivesh,Medha Patkar,Mallika sarabhai who are agents of congress in the CS.We urge Anna to keep distance from such characters who are agents of Congress and wants demoralize them and also frustrate their good intentions.Dilly dallying hoodwinking tactics are prevalent in our country.delaying of such important matters by congress appears that they are guilty of corruption.Anna group ought to know that they would be made irrelevent by congress govt whch would send the drafts to cabinet whichw ould ask all oppn to read it.oppn would not got for all party meet as they know s that they would be made evil among ppl.they wouldnot like to be a party in the crooked congress machinations.
The Lokpal Bill will be a big relief for this country.
Waiting for an (almost) corrupt free India.
This a simple and clear summary of the issues at hand. Let us use the typical type of rhetoric used by spokespeople of the government and other arrogant, self-proclaimed 'pundits' indulging in hubris to insist that "those who have not been voted into parliament have no right to demand anything". MPs such as Sibal, Digvijay Singh and their ilk have certainly incensed at least this reader with their deplorable, patronising and self-secure refusal to see the writing on the wall. Let me tell them something. Just because we have not been voted into parliament, many times via dubious means, does not mean that we do not understand the system of democracy. The government is the servant of the people, and we demand a say in the way that we are governed, and we are sick and tired of corruption! As Mr. Bhushan quite rightly puts it "Any government or party that goes against the wishes of the people will do it at its own peril." To those in the government: you are only as powerful as you are allowed to be.
While investigating the corruption or after the politicians are found that they were involved in corruption, what happens? Can they still be in the same power, stand for election ..etc
First Prashanth should file a PIL in the NOIDA farm allocation case, where undervalued farm land was allocated without lottery or a transparent mechanism as admitted by his father. Till he does that he doesn't have the credibility to be an anticorruption crusader. He is as succeptible to corruption as any politician is.
I do agree that there is need for comprehensive overhaul of our systems of governance. While having such body, we must look into all the pros and cons of such an institution.
How could ordinary people can support this bill and Anna's team
Asking the politicians to expedite this Lokpal bill process is like turkeys voting for the early thanksgiving. The sluggishness shown by the govt representatives are merely indicating it is just another game they play on. God help India!
The article unveils the struggle with in the joint drafting committee to draft a fool proof Lok Pal Bill.The stand of the Govt. and the politicians have come out in public as to how they are committed to root out corruption. All the political parties are having a consensus that what ever exercise is done that will be an eye wash so as to pave the way to do corruption in an unpunished manner.
The issue is very simple.The cause to root out corruption is a matter of politics. In a capitalist system the system prevails.The political parties who want to sustain the system will not decide to root out corruption. So the issue is to be addressed from the political view. This does not mean that the struggle against corruption need not be supported.
If Civil Society led by Anna is not a valid one for the Government and others, then a National referendum is our only option. No matter what, we need an institution like Lokpal
We need to purge corruption from our country as soon as possible. This is the time for the citizens of India to wake up!!!
People of India are with you. We need to DO this for us and for the future. Good luck to Team Anna and the NEW INDIA. Jai Hind.
So many commissions has been set up by our government which completes its investigations within the given time frame or extended time frame followed by some pleasing or needful recommendation. But the question comes only in the implementation of those recommendation. No ruling party ever done any major change in dealing with corruption. Every party talks lot about the corruption during elections. If the functioning of the Lokpal is going to be very transparent (it terms of finance, legal etc.,) why government hesitate to implement the Janlokpal
I just want to ask a simple question and understand from all those who are professing the setup of Lokpal that "What will happen if corruption could not be dealt even after that". Then which institution we are to going to set up ? Would we be then have enough power to do that ? What is that power ? And if it is there then why are we not using it now to curb the corruption ?
I would highly appreciate meeting between members of civil society and govt be telecast-ed live or uploaded on youtube for public information.
How is Corruption defined? Should this question be asked of all the ‘Anti-Corruption” fighters, myriad replies would be offered, mostly revolving around giving-taking of bribes. However, there are varied hues to the actions that constitute “Corruption”, and all cannot be fought against with a universal Vajra Ayudham called “Lok Pal Bill”, currently the do-all and end-all of all things corrupt-akin to seeking the end of all things evil!! If there is no water-tight definition of the term, how can you fight ‘it’? This will, obviously, only result in shadow-boxing! Also, asking the Government of the day to frame the Lok Pal Bill is like asking the recommendation of the biggest burglar, on the Locks to use, that cannot be picked.
What if the current demand for a Lok Pal system is bolstered by the additional demand for a “whistle-blower” system? Every demand (or information) provided by a Citizen would make the system accountable to that Citizen (by whatever name one may choose to call the system), till a satisfactory and authenticated response is delivered. This, then, arms the Citizen to pursue the course of Justice through the judicial system, separately, if required.
The proposed system described here is a PPP-Model, under the purview of a slightly modified RTI Act. In a country where ‘Literacy’ is (laughably) defined as the ability to write one’s own name, and where a majority of our Citizens in even high-literacy-level states are unable to read or write, using voice communication employing the ubiquitous mobile-telephone system seems most effective in penetrating even backward regions, and rural areas. UID, superimposed on KYC norms used by telecom Service Providers to authenticate identity of subscribers, can be effectively used--to uniquely identify the calling Citizen, by the use of commercially available CRM Software, to log and convert the call into a text-document (authenticated, by relating it to the calling number, through the data held with the Service Provider, through a rigorously implemented KYC norm); submission of this authenticated text document, under the ambit of the RTI Act to the relevant agency or elected representative; Issue of regulations to punitively charge the agency/representative responsible for delayed/vexatious replies; even, charging the Citizen for what is purported to be a vexatious call-- are methods by which a PPP-Model can be effectively implemented quickly and efficiently. Operational funding of the system on a per-call basis, with Govt contribution of a like sum, are methods to lure Private participation. This system would ensure that the unique voice of every Citizen is heard, and answers provided in a responsible manner. Imagine a Democracy where the voice of every Citizen can be heard, and responded to in a responsible manner! Vote-bank politics will necessarily go out of the window, for sure. Your comments on this thought process would be valuable to plug loop-holes.
These suggestions had been made to the NAC, but there is deafening silence.
What right has Team Anna to speak on behalf of the country?
The Govt is more serious than Team Anna in fighting corruption. Team Anna wants the Lokpal selected mainly by civil society to be accountable to no one and to have the extraordinary powers of controlling Indian PM, Indian legislature, executve and judiciary and Indian investigating agencies CBI and CVC. Which sane Govt will agree to such draconian measures? Team Anna has misled people into believing that their supercop Lokpal will wipe out all corruption from India. Instead of publishing Team Anna's fables, the media should be educating the public about the draconian measures in Team Anna's Lokpal bill.
Congress has been ruling the country mostly since independence. One can understand why they are resistant to this initiative. Nothin wrong in team Anna saying that most of the congress men would be behind bars if this is implemented. To me, the likes of Chidambaram, Kabil Sibal, Pranab Mukerjee, Manmohan Singh, Jayanti Natarajan looks like blatant crooks. Looks like they havent understood the pulse of the nation or have learnt their lessions yet. The forthcoming lok sabha election will teach them a much bigger lession. What I dont understand though is - what Mr Anna been doing all these years? Has he not been a victim of corruption all these years? What took him so long? Thank god atleast now this is gaining momentum. I would love to see a economically prosperous country before my life time. I would love to see the poor and downtrodden leading a humane life.
The UPA Government is in a deep conundrum. They are digging own grave by refusing to draft a strong and independent Lokpal Bill. They no more have a voice to influence or convince people. We are fed up of your government. The respect for Team Anna overshadows my faith in Dr. Manmohan Singh.
Well.. This article is reply of all the eminent editor(Including The discreet charm of civil society -P.Sainath) those have doubt about Lokpal Bill. It's crystal clear that no any hidden agenda with Anna Team, This Team is just a gathering of some honest people who has a vision to make corrupt free India. Before this team no any other member of Civil Society has appeared before Public, this Team done a dare to stand in front of Corrupt Politician, We must support and take active role to fulfill their dream. Overall it's for We Indians. Here I must clear that No need to Support Anna or Baba but we must support their CAUSE...
WE NEED LOK PAL BILL AT THE EARLIEST
All the very best to Team Anna & for the successful implementation of the Lokpal bill. A change is required in our whole political system also which will monitor the performance of our MPs and MLAs also and those who fail to meet the standards should not give opportunity to contest in the elections further. Otherwise mere votebank politics will work and country will not have good future at all.
The youth of Indian want to leave India and settle abroad for ever.This feeling is growing because of helpless of the youth.You can not fight corruption,u r not secured and the worst is you feel cheated every morning after reading news papers.The entire world knows how elections are held in India and the way they are won.Still as a youth/a common man i feel helpless for not able to stop this.Last 60 yrs we are a failed state.Every day i am scared to speak the truth as i Know from Police to Judges all are corrupt.I am fed up of the politicians defending them selves and criticizing Team hazare(common Indians) and therefore want to leave as coward to a better world...Thanks to my Politicians.Jai ho India.
This is simply, a disrespect for feelings of the citizens of India. The ministers are even more blunt after the crackdown on baba ramdev and his followers. The government is not feeling any threat to it's position, even after it's complete failure to tackle the major challenges it faces, namely corruption and inflation. This is only because of lack of strong opposition which can lead a country like India. The need of the hour is that the opposition joins hands and make the people of india believe that they can take the responsibility of catapulting india from a developing to a developed nation.
CIFOVIG --WHAT, WHY and HOW ?
There is an urgent case for all the citizens to unite together, demand and insist on good governance as their fundamental right.
Corruption, they say, will be the natural consequence if the boss entrusts the public servant with power and authority but does not oversee or supervise to check how he uses them. Capitalizing on the ignorance or indifference of the boss, the public servant will naturally feel emboldened to utilize his power and authority for his selfish ends.
In every enterprise, the final quality standard for running the organization in terms of the quality of service, quality of the employees and the quality of the final output materials that leave the exit gate for the consumer of the product, are decided by the person who owns the Company.
It is the boss who calls the shots on the quality standards for his company. Similarly, in a functioning democracy it is the citizens who are the real bosses of the country and it is for them to stipulate the quality standards they want from the public services.
If they are not happy about the existing quality of the public service, the citizens as the proprietors of the Nation have every right to insist for good governance from the administrators.
The time has now come for the citizens to wake up from the state of ignorance and indifference and start asserting their rights as the bosses and take a firm and resolute stand against corruption in public life and unite together to control it to the barest minimum extent possible.
The alarming trend has now been joining together of all the self-centered and greedy corrupt elements in politics, bureaucracy and the business worlds forming powerful interest lobbies joining closely together and forming a well knit nexus.
Corruption has now become a way of life with the growth of the new phenomenon of institutionalized corruption which has become well entrenched in the major segments of the Indian polity.
The makes it all the more urgent that counter measures are proposed and initiated by the well meaning, public spirited and concerned citizens to rally amongst themselves and also along with the honest and straight- forward segments of the public servants.
Such unified approach alone can control the dangerous growth of power of the undesirable elements in the public service and restore value based governance in public administrations.
When all the other liberties and rights assured to all by our Constitution, are being abused and misused as licenses to do any violations and still get away from punishments by the mighty and powerful sections of the society , the public spirited and concerned citizens of the country have no alternative but to unite under one banner to safeguard their interest as well as those of the vulnerable and poor sections of the society and demand that good governance be included as a fundamental right by amending the Constitution.
The effective countermeasures for checking and controlling institutionalized, organized and the systematic methods for corruption indulged by the unscrupulous elements in politics, administration and business circles can only be an equally organized , institutionalized, united and the strong voice of the citizens representing the saner and the more responsible sections of the Society, protesting against corruption in public services and demanding good governance at every levels.
Citizens Forum for Vigilance and Good Governance (CIFOVIG)is one such institutionalized vigilant group of citizens, being suggested now for generating an all round awareness amongst all the citizens of the country and mobilize public opinion for enabling them to organize themselves locally for remaining more united and vigilant for controlling corruption by the public servants at the local levels.
While the institution of Lokpal is planned to handle the issues of corruption at the central level and at the state capitals level, to supplement and compliment the objectives of corruption control, the institution of CIFOVIG can be planned at the grass root level at the village level, at the town level and at the district levels of our country.
The aims and objectives of Citizens Forum for Vigilance and Good Governance (CIFIVIG) can be
1. To guide in building up localized vigilance and mentoring groups of citizens in every major town and district of the country for exercising a close watch over the functioning of all types of public services and blow the whistles in the glaring instances of serous violations in the provisions of fair and just public services which affect the interests of the local citizens.
2. To strive to generate an all round awareness to the citizens of our country especially the younger generations regarding their rights and duties, responsibilities and obligations towards their community by holding series of Summer Youth Camps, Conferences & Seminars at the state level and at the national level and set the directions for re-building a corruption free society in the country within the next decade.
3. To strive to discourage and frown at the tendency of the fellow citizens from resorting to offer bribe and expedite their services.
4. To strive to mobilize public opinions and supports for simplifying the legal and administrative rules at all levels to make them more user friendly and reduce delays and red- tapism.
5. To strive to resurrect and rejuvenate the value systems within our society and remind and re-iterate to the fellow citizens on the significance of the moral and ethical principles, values and beliefs which had been foundations of the Indian society for thousands of years.
6. To strive to guide the fellow citizens to unite together and develop a clarity on handling the various types of day to day mundane issues posing challenges of ethical and moral dilemmas and conflict of interests and guide them by means of on illustrative case histories, publications and audiovisual communications, based on real life experiences of the accomplished and experienced administrators.
7.To strive to evolve public opinion on the current electoral systems and processes contributing to the growth and sustenance of corruption and proposing corrective remedial measures such as needed amendments to the Constitution which could control these factors.
By a two pronged grip by the institutions of Lokpal at the helm of affairs and Cifovig at the bottom layers of the society with the active involvement of the responsible sections of the civil society at both the levels on a continuous basis, it is hoped that the two horns of the demon of corruption in the Indian public life can be brought under control and the demon can be leashed and reined in.
You think Rahul G and Sonia G will allow Lokpal to function properly even if it is formed ? If corruption disappears then how will they manage to cash in funds to rule India. We need leaders not rulers !!
The whole nation wants a strong lokpal bill. We feel obliged by the hard work which is currenty put in by Anna, Bhusans, kiran bedi and the other members of the civil society. Generations to come would reap the benefit of their efforts, when the level of corruption would decrease significantly in our country. It is second fight for complete independence after the first ended in 1947, but the irony is this time we are fighting our own people, who have created a short of ruling class with a politician-bureaucratic-traders nexus.
On paper, this bill looks like a panacea for the problem of corruption. I'm a bit skeptical how the final bill turns out to be in the hands of our elected representatives. Jan LokPal, an effective anti-corruption bill which may act as deterrent to the wrong doers, apart from that to root out the corruption there must be a orbit shift in the mindset of people.-
One of the important reasons for corruption is the lack of authority of the Prime Minister on the Ministers nominated from other political parties in a coalition government. The situation is so precarious when the majority enjoyed by coalition government is very narrow. It is difficult to believe that the Prime Minister is totally ignorant on what is going on in other ministries including corruption and indiscipline. In a democratic set up Ministers ought to be selected based on integrity, efficiency and availability to the people at large. Here parties ask for specific ministerial berths keeping hidden agenda and select the personnel to fulfill it. Finally it becomes a mockery and demonstrates might is right. It is high time that Prime Minister performs without fear and favour and keeps his head well above all his ministerial colleagues
Team Anna - Thank you for writing this. This clearly states where you stand. There was so much misinformation.
Team Anna - Your demand is reasonable and fair - where there is check and balance for everyone including the Lok Pal institution.
Even if the cost of running and expanding (if needed to cope with demand) Lokpal institution is high - we are ready to pay for it.
If the government or anybody thinks that this Lok Pal bill is not what people want - let them provide a forum which can get inputs from the people. I would even suggest that the Election Commission run a country wide voting program (with options - Govt Bill; Lok Pal Bill; Others; Don't want to vote). Let the Govt. and others who are supporting their cause campaign and let Team Anna and others who are supporting their cause campaign. Everyone can guess what the overwhelming majority will be.
If this is becoming truth it will be very nice of India may God bless them to be true Indian .I am not a politician nor a very educated but i think there should be so many correction is required for Indian Policy. It is heard that a huge amount is spent after Kasab in Jail whose amount Govt. is using. why he is alive ?
Corruption can not be eleminated until unless people exhibit vigorous participation, for which Team Anna must move to extreme end of vigourous efforts to rouse consciousness of citizens.
It is now evident that the Government of the day is unwilling to face facts regarding corruption. As an ordinary citizen, I know only of bribes to be paid to the junior level workers to do their duty. Now with the extensive media coverage and also the campaign by people like Anna Hazare, we come to know of shamefully enormous corruption cases. The government seems to be trying to browbeat everybody, including the media with its grin(Kapil Sibal) or sarcasm(Chidambaram). The kind of letters written by Sonia Gandhi to Hazare, or the one written by by Rahul Gandhi to Justice Krishna Iyer sometime back shows the kind of arrogance they exhibit and the contempt they have for responsible citizens of this country.
Certainly NOT. Government doing politics only
All of these 'demands' on the Jan Lokpal hardly seem "extra-constitutional" or "unreasonable". If the top guns in government want these activists to tone down their "idealism", perhaps they want the electorate as well to take "reasonable" views on the loot of public resource that have been unearthed during this term of the government. Indeed it is hard to stay reasonable at 1.76 lakh crore. And counting. Very, very hard.
After going through this article thoroughly, I am convinced that the demands of Team Anna are just and democratic.The Congress Govt. is trying to divide and misguide the Indian Public though Minsters like Kapil Sibal and Chindambaram. Even Hon. PM Manmohan Singh and Ms. Sonia Gandhi are tightlipped on this matter. The citizens of India expect a national message delivered by Mr. Manmohan Singh on this matter but he is shying away may be shielded by the Corrupt Congress ministers who know that the honest PM will accept the demands of the citizens of India.
Therefore brothers, please forward this article to as much people possible and create an aware in the Netizens. If Team Anna resorts to fast again against the corrupt Govt. We must come out to support them.
I wish to congratulate "Team Anna" for their valiant fight against corruption and the way they have taken on the high and mighty. They have provided voice to millions of Indians like me. We should be prepared to sacrifice all for this noble cause."Team Anna" zindabbad!!!!
This article shows how puerile can be the people working on one of the most complex problems of not only Inida but the entire civilization. But coming to specific suggestions of Team India to form 11 member HUGH Lokpal, the idea that 11 members selected by socalled " corrupt politicians, judges, and bureaucrats " will be non corrupt and they will not play any politics in their acivities is to say a little naive .
Another 'interesting' (sic) idea is that the cases of corruption will be completed within one year. How this can be achieved when the cases will be covered by present juducial system ? If setting of special courts is required , then it can be done without lokapal also.
As far as arrogance of power is concerned , Team Anna should introspect and answer to them selves " who represent people ? Elected members of parliament or unelected Anna Team? "
Actually this team Anna is " present day Don Quixote" well meaning but impractical; trying to reform reality without understanding reality.
How much of 'this Quixotic' is helpful in Nation Building is questionable and should be judged by the wiser , learned and powerful people of Sociaty before creating parallel government.
'...The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) is controlled by the very people who are the fountainheads of this corruption...'. A grave allegation and cannot be faulted. Two steps are urgent. 1. Empowering the CAG on the U.S. model. 2. Making the selection for that post as broad-based as the one suggested by you for the Lokpal, on the UK model. Presently, the CAG is appointed by the Prime Minister for all practical purposes. You had published an excellent review on this aspect by Mr.Ramaswamy R. Iyer, earlier.
This is exactly how the issues should be presented on the discussion regaring the anti-corruption movements approach of the Civil Society led by Anna Hazare.
Till now all the news papers were doing was a stenographers job of "He said .... She said". There were only sound-bytes on 24X7 TV and as the politicians of the congress party have loud-mouths they get to carry the sound-bytes on the issue blurring the important points. This article highlights all the vital points that are needed quite lucidly and convincingly.
The 24X7 TV channel reporters should ask the partinent questions based on the actual facts that are being presented by the civil society and not the sound-bytes bouncing from both the parties.
That congress tried to use Baba Ramdev as a attention divergence tactic trying to use the louder mouth of Baba Ramdev and then discredit him (RSS tool etc. etc.)- was a brilliant tactic that is almost Chanakya like in its creativity. Which I think could have come only from the shrewed brain of the Bengali babu - Mr. Pranab Mukherjee. This tactic had all the necessary ingridients to succeed but for the unpredictibility of Baba Ramdev himself. Like they say ... all the plans of mice and men ...
But now we need to get serious. We need to challenge the UPA leadership on the issues of corruption and based on the facts and not TV sound-bytes. It is a fact that the political leadership is corrupt to the neck - without naming names - and we need to clean up this round table of corruption that breeds a wave, or shall we say a Tsunami of corruption to every level of society. Shina shoots to death its corrupt politicians, babus and businessmen. America has FBI which can investigate even the President of the United states of America.
A fast developing country like India will - as a natural corollary of this development - will see massive corruption. In a country where everything can be bought with a bribe (I guess no one will dispute this fact) the 10% growth means we can expect a 10% growth of bribing values of our GDP to be paid to the decision making authorities in each and every aspect of this growth. With Indian GDP in this kind of figures range (GDP (purchasing power parity) $4.046 trillion (2010)) we are talking about bribes and corruptions in the level of Trillions of dollars.
There is no way India is going to control this without a Lokpal Bill in the way that the civil society has proposed / formulated. Considering such amounts of money involved there will be a Tsunami of opposition from the polital parties in power as they are the recipients of the maximum of this amount.
The lokpal as proposed by civil society which may look like a tough body will still be everwhelmed by the coprruptions money power in trillions of dollars. This should be only the begining - the basic foundation - we would need a very strong whistle-blower law and we will need a wikileaks-India, if we are to survive as a strong nation beacuse corruption makes the strongest nation hollow from within. Corruption and power makes the strongest of nations into history. If the Romans and Greek civilisations could tell you something they would tell you that corruption and power is what brought them down.
Don't let us be divereted by the sidestepping maneuvers of the Chanakyas of the congress party or for that matter all political parties or its leaderships.
Congress party which has not had organisation elections and always tends to select the Nehru - Gandhi family, whereby one can say the Nehru-Gandhi family enjoys absolute power. so today see the ramifications of that absolute power where Digvijay Singh says Rahul Gandhi should now be ready to become the Prime Minister of India, thereby indicating that if Sonia Gandhi today wants, in one minte she can decide that Manmohan Singh can step down (and a gentleman that he is, he will do so right away) so we will have Rahul Gandhi tomorrow as the Prime Minister of India - the 4-5 most powerful nation of earth! That I would is what absolute power is. And that is the most dangerous part of this corruption cycle.
Like Lord Acton(1834-1902) wrote in a letter "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely".
The Prime Minister must be under Lokpal scrutiny!
Tyrants like Assad and Quadaffi never wanted to deposed and loose power. People in those country faced to dealth and massacre for there rights only. If we want lokpal bill to pass, which is our right, we need to do similar kind of protest if government, elected by general public but not working for them, is not wanted to loose the rope.
Let me get this straight. The LokPal committee of 11 (The 11) have to be elected from nominations? Who makes the nominations, the people of India? If so, will it be everyone saying "I want to be on the LokPal" or will it be like "These people are contesting to be a part of The 11, and people may vote on them". If it is the latter, how is it any different from Elections? Is it feasible to hold one election for the legislature / cabinet, and another for The 11. Even assuming this is feasible, won't this fall into the same trap as our elections? The same trap where money and connections prove useful. Going back to the original question: if it is not the people of India who nominates The 11 through an election, how else will they be selected? How can we be sure such selection is not prone to favoritism (kith and kin of current members), elitist policy lobbying (say, human rights activists who cry for terrorists) and simply limelight hogging. We, the people of India, supported your team to take on the current government against their corruption; not to take on the governance and become yet another muddled institution in our system. Hope you learned ladies and gentlemen would see the difference.
While there can be no two issues about fighting corruption tooth and nail we should also take into account the fundamentals of our democracy. First Team Anna claims they are the representatives of Civil Society which I beg to differ. We have a Parliamentary democracy and people elect their representatives at various levels like Local Bodies, State Assemblies and Parliament. While Civil Society Groups have every right to peacefully demonstrate and exert pressure on the Government of the day to enact powerful laws to fight corruption or for that matter any social evil they cannot take the rights upon them and threaten the Government with Fast Unto Death and so on. Let us remember that even if the So called Civil Society represented by Team Anna drafts a Bill it is the Parliament which has to pass it and the wisdom of the Parliament cannot be questioned.
No idea why congress and UPA play a villain role in Lokpal issue.
The issue seeks from public support.
The govt has to clearly tell where it stands - against corruption or with corruption. Right now they are trying to protect people doing corruption and harassing people fighting against corruption. If it is Govt's job to create laws, then why have they not created Lokpal (or similar mechanism) for last 42 years? Why is India in top 5 globally in terms of growth rate but 87 in corruption?
Excellent article. I request Anna Ji to take up a nation-wide yatra and show the support he has.Else the congress party will keep making anti-statements against the lokpal bill.
The government uneasiness towards a stronger Lokpal clearly says it all.Even the opposition and other Political parties are mum on this issue.So Basically, the who Political (tyrant) class is at a threat and hence they are unanimous (slienty)against a WeakerLokPal bill.
We support your movement and hope that something comes good out of this agitation. All those enjoying blind and open corruption in the country must be on their toes w.r.t Lokpal, alas the gov itslef seems very scared about it.
No politician would ever want the lokpal bill to get passed. They will try their level best, to reject it, because once it get passed, half of our politicians, would be behind the bars.
Prashant Bhushan's article can be summed up in just two words - 'arrogant' and 'simplistic'. Arrogant because he and the team consider themselves as the ultimate repository of wisdom, practical experience and good-of-the nation feelings. All others are obstructionists, corrupt and are not patriotic. Simplistic because the solutions they offer might work well at a village or neighbourhood certainly not for a complex, varied and simultaneously-living-in-many-centuries type of a country. This simpistic mind set is their undoing.
While most of your proposals make sense,it would be unrealistic to implement all of them.I agree with the governments views that the Lokpal should investigate only cases of higher corruption. We all know that corruption originates at the very top of the pyramid.Investigating all government employees requires a huge structure which cannot be established overnight and has other logistical and financial costs involved. "Those running the government have forgotten that they are merely the representatives of the people and they must run the government and make laws as per their wishes."
And do you 'represent' the people?Gathering members on Facebook and Twitter does not count as representation.Air your views by all means but do not claim to be the representatives of anybody. Of late 'Team Anna' has been airing their views on everything under the sun,it smacks of an arrogance greater than that of this government.
Having a strong Lokpal or an independent body to look into corruption is necessary. However, pulling the PM and CJI under the LokPal, I am afraid will give super power to the Lokpal and more importantly affect the stability of the democracy. Not trusting anyone in the government is like distrusting democracy. The suggestion to have investigation on PM allowed once he/she steps down from the post sounds reasonable.
I simply do not understand government's unwillingness for not including PM and others under Lokpal. Are they afraid of something? If they have not done anything wrong, why to worry? They say elected members will take decision, does it mean that PM and home minister will not take part in it, since they did not win any election? Congress should accept the fact that they are governing modern India and people need transparency. So wake up and listen good people like Anna, who has done lot in his area which congress did not do in last 60 years. Adopt his model and spread it to all over the country instead of wasting time to defame him. India is a biggest democracy but it needs to function and Lokpal is one way.
True...very true. All hats off to Anna and Team who are fighting for the cause. People of India will remember you for ever.
Government serious? No way. Rather it is deadly against the attempts of the people and therefore it terms it as a movement and dadagiri of handful of so called civil soceity people. It also had started all out compaign to discredit the people who are involved in the movement. The people in the government clearly say that they are the people's representatives and so called civil society has no roll. This is the reason for people to immediately start civil disobedience movement and other methods where by the people of India are involved directly. Then possibly the thugs in government will realise the folly of their attempt.
Team Anna,:I think you have done a fantastic job by explaining your point of view to the people of India. Next I expect is the response of the Govt's team on a public forum like this. It is high time we fought corruption. I do not understand why Govt. is shy of discussing such an important matter in public. Just because they are chosen ones does not give them right to behave like dictators. The same people who voted for them are coming thousands to oppose their stand on the Lokpal bill. The people of India are fed up with the corruption in day to day life followed by long trials on tax payers money. We want answers now.
Nice Article. We will be there to support the civic society...Thanks to Hindu for publishing this article. We will show people power to our arrogant government and to the opposition parties...
Well, we have all the ingredients to make India as the number one ranking in corruption. Licentiate Raj, Permit Raj, Inspector Raj, Immunity from prosecution for netas and babus, legalized corruption ( The Single Directive), a justice delivery system that take decades to conclude a case, laughable mils, penalties that almost encourage corruption. And to top it all weak governance, weak leaders out to appease one and all in order to stay in power, so that they can exercise this power on the common man in the street and live off his back as parasites would.
Certainly not as they are the ones who are corrupting and encouraging the whole entourage to loot.
At the outset, I am, as an individual, fully in agreement with the details of the PROVISIONS of the LOKPAL BILL suggested by TEAM ANNA, as detailed in this article published in Hindu editorial page on 20th Jun 2011. The same article is to be published in all local newspapers in all the Indian languages and leaflet on this to be distributed to all. This itself may be used to get the REFERENDUM from public, by Getting each of this article signed by individuals mentinging their voter id reference. Even an uneducated who could not read this article could indicate that he or she got it explained by his or her own trust worthy person and then only signed it, also giving both voter id reference.
Govt thought that they are elected person so they do anything but this concept of elected person is from a KABILAI society where elected person is called RAJA.but in a democretive republican state an elected person is SEVAK (servant) of people. So in democracy the elected person should do what the people (who elected you) want. The demand of a strong Lokpal is not only by team Anna but by the all people who suffered most by corruption but who their motherland. Thank you, TEAM ANNA.
We all know that the people at the top are corrupt.By tying ourselves in knots by an elaborate legislation, we are in for more and more long winding judicial process, giving relief to the powerful. No relief from corruption in sight. As a nation, we are corrupt in spite of our strong spiritual heritage. As the SC recently observed corruption is the worst form of human rights violation. Our REAL freedom starts only when we eliminate corruption from public life.
Citizens who want action on corruption are caught in catch-22 situation. The only way to get a govt. is to vote for those candidates who are presented before them and after they get elected, citizens have virtually no control over them. So they end up being representatives of all those who bankroll them to get favorable decisions and contracts. These same people are being asked to draft and pass a bill which can potentially put the so-called elected representatives in trouble. Will they ever allow that to happen? So unless people are ready to get onto the streets and pressurize like that is happening in the Arab states currently, nothing much is going to happen. The Parliamentarians who are well-versed in befuddling, hoodwinking and looting the nation, cannot be expected to derail the gravy train they are all riding. Nor are the business class who have benefited in this partnership of loot, going to support it.
I see no reason for Lokpal Bill to not be implemented at the earliest. Why delay a process which could only better our country? Hope the government pass this bill immediately.
Right from top to bottom,corruption exists and common public is worst sufferer due to its existence.But how to get rid of it nobody seems to know. The present day political systems will not allow it to be subverted especially the Congress regime. The only path left to the common public looking forward to TEAM ANNA to mobilise public opinion for a strong anti-corruption law. Through a mass agitation we can compel this anti-people government to accept the will of the people.There is no other alternative.
I think very wise articulation from Prashant Bhusan. What we must understand is that in a democracy things might get delayed but what public want will eventually happen. Moreover, We must not see this process as two parties; the objective of both side committee member is to get a bill so they should try to focus hard on the issue rather than pointing fingers on each other.
"Any government or party that goes against the wishes of the people will do it at its own peril." History is strewn with tragic incidents of the rulers inability to understand this straight forward dictum. Short time back despots like Hoshni Mubarak, Shah of Iran etc blind with arrogant power were dumped to dust bin history by the humble exploited citizens. If the political class of our country care to go through history they would have learnt that it is the record of man's steps and slips, steps have been slow and slight; the slips, quick and abounding. It provides us with the opportunity to profit by the stumbles and tumbles of our forerunners. Instead what is on display is the ignorant rulers stumbling like a blind man, an imbecile, or a drunkard unable to see with clear eyes. Most of our troubles arise from the rulers habit of suppressing or distorting well known truths out of an ambition and self interest.
Excellent article. We have lot to learn from UK/US/Europe. Politicians use all the tricks in their book kill this very good intentioned and comprehensive bill. Don't disagree that Anna's bill may need fine tuning but it will evolve eventually.
Excellent.Full marks to 'The Hindu' for publishing such a meaningful article. My whole hearted support to Anna team on their version of draft. Just one suggestion if Ministers continue with their arrogance and seek cover behind people's mandate to take decisions than let us go for a refrendum on this issue or even a mid term poll. Every Indian must rise above party politics and divisions of ideology and religion to participate in this second 'freedom struggle' as corruption is hurting everyone.
Excellent article! Laws have to be made by elected officials. True. But, we know that the very people entrusted to guard important people (like the late prime minister Indira Gandhi) become the assassins then security has no meaning. Likewise, the very people entrusted to make rules are the most corrupt then rules have no meaning. It is indeed sad state of affairs.
Team Anna: You have my vote to constitute the Lokpal as envisaged by Team Anna. Team government (a.k.a politicians from all the political parties) are clearly frightened at the power of the people. A democratic government is one that of the people, by the people and for the people. These blokes should know very well that they're 'servants' of the people. To label civil society as a random railing of a few retarded people as some 'respected' members of the parliament are effectively saying is being dismissive and simply being arrogant. They should simply remember that the ground swell is at the tipping point of becoming a revolution that can turn people's frustration into unnecessary violence as is evident in some of the Middle Eastern countries. The PM is an elected public servant and so is under purview of the law. It's foolish to demand proof that any sitting PM has been prosecuted. That's not happened because the very same legal system e.g. CBI etc. are set up by the same politicians. The vigilance system is not an independent body and that's simply strategically done - who would want to have a body that'll scrutinize their dirty dealings? So Team Anna, I suggest let's start a Twitter or Internet movement to get a ground swell that'll turn people's voice loud enough for the law making people - the servants of the people a.k.a MPs - to change the way we work in India.
A great majority of the entire population is behind corurption fighters such as Anna Hazare and the Yogi. These peaceful righteous fighters are the only hope for the Nation of India. Their struggle is the struggle of the people in every walk of life, in every station in the society. This struggle is as fundamental as the struggle for freedom that took place in the earlier century.
Can not agree more with this article. I have full faith in Anna, Arvind, Bhushans, Hegde, etc. Salute to you guys !
The corruption, competing corruption, fasts, bearkfast, competitive fasts, silence of leaders, criminalization, politicization, indiscipline and abuse of authority in the Government teams have reached to such an irreversible point that promoters of “India Shining and India Superpower" are running out of ideas and showcases. Congress has silently removed the teeth of CBI by keeping it out of RTI reach.CBI which is already blamed is now left to openly obey the orders of the ruling masters. Without parliament approval this is done silently and `chori chori` when the entire nation is engaged with corruption control solutions. We all found Congress ministers recently advocating that civil society and all citizens must respect Parliament who is only one to bring laws like Lokpal bill. Now Aam admi is not supposed to question the corruption of congress or any other ruling party as all present corruption cases are to be unlocked and investigated by CBI. Congress wants to shamelessly hide all large scale corruption cases behind CBI which now cannot be monitored. This shameless conspiracy of congress to my understanding is to draw parallels to try and put PM out of Lokpal bill in near future. Our PM took more then two years to act in 2G scam. Instead of jail all corrupt corporate are lobbying with PM for a bail and a booty. Only employees in 2G are put in jail and not the owners who lobbied with Raja in his networks. Our honest PM it appears wants to delay action and escape from new KG-Reliance Scam which is going to be the grandmother of all Scams. Visiting CAG report of oil field transfer is like visiting an audit report of any commercial project. Auditor has the privilege of `reverse monitoring. Any comment given in this background is considered with enough justified evidence as audit is the backbone of any commercial activity.It appears that Congress ministers are in escape mode.Like it or not till then National Interest shall stand freezed. Already 42 years stand wasted in Lok pal bill discussions in Parliament. More pressure needs to be put on the rusted Indian delivery system jointly by the Civil Society and all honest politicians inside and outside the parliament.
Transparency in all goverment policies and tenders is the need of the hour. Strigent laws on corruption is yet another need. People who have benefitted from 2G or Adharsh Or CWG may have been arrested or sacked, but still their properties are not seized. With the pace, the investigation is going on, there are every chance of evidences being cleared. At lower level too, Online filling of Passport /Ration / Driving License and their status being shown in website will reduce bribery to an extent. Police department should also be made independent. They are just being puppets of the Goverment. Dada's and anti-social elements who have links with ruling party legislators, escape without even being filed an FIR. Land Mafia are pre-dominant in Cities. There should be a solution to all these problems. As it was rightly said in a movie, that corruption and bribery is also prevelant in countries like US,china or other developed countries, but the difference is, there they take bribe only for doing something against duty, but here in India, they take bribe to do their duty itself.
Great article. Hope team Anna wins this battle and frees the country from curruption. People in this country have lost faith in politicians. Glad to see that still there are people who are fighting for the country. Go team Anna. The whole country, except the corrupt people, is with you.
Thanks Hindu for posting such oped. Thanks for team Anna for such a strong initiatives. Though I am 10K miles away, my heart wants to participate with you.
I like very much the approach and the proposed system where in the power is balanced between SC and Lokpal. I would be very much interested in further details with an example of how good this system or effective will be and also an example how vulnerable this system can be. Any other possible technical complications especially any citizen not confident of PM, or cabinet Ministers can make use of this system or fool this system. Will there be any counter balance on people who complain and their accountability and responsibility. How a complaint will be qualified for enquiry or prosecution when a person can not even question or get information(RTI) about PMO or cabinet Ministers. In our country a person can become a PM without even getting elected directly by its citizen and the govt wants him/her to be above doubt or prosecution. Such a ridiculous argument from govt or politicians. I am absolutely disappointed with our current system and I have no confidence on our PM for he could not even answer simple logical questions in any common citizen's mind. It does need DU degree and Oxford degrees. He never speaks his principles and never answered the nation for any critical situation.
Mr. Kapil Sibal: you should look out side of India for an examples. you will find lot of countries have the law prosecute their presidents and prime ministers. For example: Richard Nixon was the 37th President of the United States, was impeached during his presidency. In the face of likely impeachment for his role in the Watergate scandal,[1] Nixon resigned on August 9, 1974. He was later controversially pardoned by his successor, Gerald Ford, for any federal crimes he may have committed while in office. Why can't Indian PM be subject to a prosecution.
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