Choosing the ‘Greatest Indian After Gandhi’ is difficult when the present exerts such a strong pull over our view of the past and there is a wide variation between how the ‘greatness’ of an individual is assessed by the aam aadmi and by the expert, says Ramachandra Guha
Nations need heroes, but the construction of a national pantheon is rarely straightforward or uncontested. Consider the debate in the United States about which faces should adorn the national currency. The founding figures of American Independence — Jefferson, Washington, Hamilton, Madison, and Franklin — are all represented on the dollar bill, albeit on different denominations. So are the 19th century Presidents Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, and Ulysses S. Grant.
In recent years, right-wing Americans have campaigned for their hero, Ronald Reagan, to be represented on the national currency. This, it is said, is necessary to bring it in line with contemporary sentiments. Of 20th century Presidents, Franklin Delano Roosevelt is represented on the dime, and John F. Kennedy on the dollar. Both were Democrats. Republicans now demand that the pantheon feature one of their ilk. In 2010, a Congressman from North Carolina, Patrick McHenry, canvassed for a law mandating that Ulysses S. Grant be replaced on the fifty dollar bill by Ronald Reagan. “Every generation needs its own heroes”, said McHenry. The American hero he was anointing for our times was Reagan, “a modern day statesman, whose presidency transformed our nation’s political and economic thinking”.
Turn now to that other large, complex, cacophonous, democracy — our own. After India became independent, the national pantheon offered to its citizens was massively dominated by leaders of the Congress Party. Mahatma Gandhi was positioned first, with Jawaharlal Nehru only a short distance behind. Both had played important roles in the freeing of the country from colonial rule. Both were truly great Indians. That said, the popular perception of both was helped by the fact that the party to which they belonged was in power for the crucial decades after Independence. Newspapers, the radio, and school textbooks all played their role in the construction of a narrative in which Gandhi was the Father of the Nation and Nehru its Guide and Mentor in the first, formative years of the Republic’s existence.
Until the 1960s, the dominance of Nehru and Gandhi in the national imagination was colossal. When, in that decade, the American scholar Eleanor Zelliot wrote a brilliant dissertation on B.R. Ambedkar and the Mahar movement in Maharashtra, she was unable to find a publisher. But then the Congress started to lose power in the States. In 1977 it lost power for the first time at the Centre. The rise of new political parties led naturally to revisionist interpretations of the past. New heroes began to be offered for inclusion in the nation’s pantheon, their virtues extolled (and sometimes magnified) in print, in Parliament, and, in time, in school textbooks as well.
The Indian who, in subsequent decades, has benefited most from this revaluation is B.R. Ambedkar. A scholar, legal expert, institution builder and agitator, Ambedkar played a heroic (the word is inescapable) role in bringing the problems of the untouchable castes to wider attention. He forced Gandhi to take a more serious, focused, interest in the plight of the depressed classes, and himself started schools, colleges and a political party to advance their interests.
Ambedkar died in December 1956, a political failure. The party he founded scarcely made a dent in Congress hegemony, and he was unable to win a Lok Sabha seat himself. But his memory was revived in the 1970s and beyond. His works began to be read more widely. He was the central, sometimes sole, inspiration for a new generation of Dalit activists and scholars. Obscure at the time of his death in 1956, condescended to by the academic community until the 1980s (at least), Ambedkar is today the only genuinely all-India political figure, worshipped in Dalit homes across the land. Notably, he is not a Dalit hero alone, his achievements recognised among large sections of the Indian middle class. No one now seeking to write a book on Ambedkar would have a problem finding a publisher.
The (belated) incorporation of Ambedkar into the national pantheon is a consequence largely of the political rise of the subaltern classes. Meanwhile, the pantheon has been expanded from the right by the inclusion of Vallabhbhai Patel. Paradoxically, while Patel was himself a lifelong Congressman, the case for his greatness has been made most vigorously by the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). BJP leaders and ideologues speak of Patel as the Other, in all respects, of Jawaharlal Nehru. They claim that if Patel had become Prime Minister, Kashmir would have been fully integrated into India. Under Patel the country would have followed a more pragmatic (i.e. market-oriented) economic policy, while standing shoulder-to-shoulder with Western democracies against godless Communism. Nor, if Patel had been in charge, would there have been (it is claimed) any appeasement of the minorities.
The BJP reading of history is tendentious, not least because Patel and Nehru were, in practice, collaborators and colleagues rather than rivals or adversaries. To be sure, they had their disagreements, but, to their everlasting credit, they submerged these differences in the greater task of national consolidation. Theirs was a willed, deliberate, division of labour and responsibilities. Nehru knew that Patel, and not he, had the patience and acumen to supervise the integration of the princely states and build up administrative capacity. On the other side, as Rajmohan Gandhi demonstrates in his biography of Patel, the man had no intention or desire to become Prime Minister. For Patel knew that only Nehru had the character and personality to take the Congress credo to women, minorities, and the South, and to represent India to the world.
That the BJP has to make the case for Patel is a consequence of the Congress’s capture by a single family determined to inflate its own contributions to the nation’s past, present, and future. Sonia Gandhi’s Congress Party recognises that a pantheon cannot consist of only two names; however, in their bid to make it more capacious, Congressmen place Indira and Rajiv alongside Nehru and Mahatma Gandhi. Thus the ubiquitous and apparently never-ending naming of sarkari schemes, airports, buildings, and stadia, after the one or the other.
The preceding discussion makes clear that political parties and social movements play a crucial role in how the national past is conveyed to citizens in the present. Indians admired by parties and movements, such as Ambedkar and Patel, have had their achievements more widely recognised than might otherwise have been the case. By the same token, great Indians whose lives are incapable of capture by special interests or sects have suffered from the enormous condescension of posterity.
Consider, in this regard, the current invisibility from the national discourse of Kamaladevi Chattopadhyaya. Married to a man chosen by her family, she was widowed early, and then married a left-wing actor from another part of India. She joined the freedom movement, persuading Gandhi to allow women to court arrest during the Salt March and after.
After coming out of jail, Kamaladevi became active in trade union work, and travelled to the United States, where she explained the relevance of civil disobedience to black activists (her turn in the South is compellingly described in Nico Slate’s recent book Colored Cosmopolitanism). After Independence and Partition, Kamaladevi supervised the resettlement of refugees; still later, she set up an all-India network of artisanal cooperatives, and established a national crafts museum as well as a national academy for music and dance. Tragically, because her work cannot be seen through an exclusively political lens, and because her versatility cannot be captured by a sect or special interest, Kamaladevi is a forgotten figure today. Yet, from this historian’s point of view, she has strong claims to being regarded as the greatest Indian woman of modern times.
II
Earlier this year, I was invited to be part of a jury to select the ‘Greatest Indian Since Gandhi’. The organisers did me the favour of showing me a list of 100 names beforehand. Many of the names were unexceptionable, but some strongly reflected the perceptions (and prejudices) of the present. For example, Kiran Bedi was in this list, but Kamaladevi Chattopadhyay wasn’t, a reflection only of the fact that the latter did not live in an age of television. There was also a regional bias: compiled in Delhi, the preliminary list did not include such extraordinary modern Indians as Shivarama Karanth, C. Rajagopalachari, and E. V. Ramaswami ‘Periyar’. There was also a marked urban bias: not one Indian who came from a farming background was represented, not even the former Prime Minister Charan Singh or the former Agriculture Minister (and Green Revolution architect) C. Subramaniam. Nor was a single Adivasi on the list, not even the Jharkhand leader Jaipal Singh.
Since this was a provisional list, the organisers were gracious enough to accommodate some of these names at my request. The revised list was then offered to a jury composed of actors, writers, sportspersons and entrepreneurs, men and women of moderate (in some cases, considerable) distinction in their field. Based on the jury’s recommendations, the 100 names were then brought down to 50.
The names of these 50 ‘great’ Indians were then further reduced to 10, in a three-way process in which the votes of the jury were given equal weightage with views canvassed via an online poll and a market survey respectively. The results revealed two striking (and interconnected) features: the strong imprint of the present in how we view the past, and the wide variation between how the ‘greatness’ of an individual is assessed by the aam aadmi and by the expert.
Here are some illustrations of this divergence. In the jury vote, B.R. Ambedkar and Jawaharlal Nehru tied for first place; each had 21 votes. The online poll also placed Ambedkar in first place, but ranked Nehru as low as 15th, lower than Vallabhbhai Patel, Indira Gandhi, and Atal Bihari Vajpayee. Even Sachin Tendulkar, A.R. Rahman, and Rajnikanth were ranked higher than Nehru by Net voters.
In the jury vote, the industrialist J.R.D. Tata and the social worker Mother Teresa were ranked immediately below Ambedkar and Nehru. Vallabhbhai Patel was ranked fifth by the jury, but an impressive third by Net voters. This suggests that like Ambedkar, Patel has a strong appeal among the young, albeit among a different section, those driven by the desire to see a strong state rather than the wish to achieve social justice. Nehru, on the other hand, is a figure of disinterest and derision in India today, his reputation damaged in good part by the misdeeds of his genealogical successors.
The most remarkable, not to say bizarre, discrepancy between the expert and the aam aadmi was revealed in the case of the former President of India, A.P.J. Abdul Kalam. Only two (out of 28) jury members voted for Kalam to be one of the shortlist of 10. On the other hand, Kalam was ranked first by those surveyed by market research, and second in the online polls.
What explains this massive variation in perception? The jury was motivated perhaps by the facts — the hard, undeniable, if not so widely advertised facts — that Kalam has not made any original contributions to scientific or scholarly research. Homi Bhabha, M.S. Swaminathan, and Amartya Sen, who have, were thus ranked far higher than the former President. Nor has Kalam done important technological work — recognising this, the jury ranked the Delhi Metro and Konkan Railway pioneer E. Sreedharan above him.
In the popular imagination, Kalam has been credited both with overseeing our space programme and the nuclear tests of 1998. In truth, Vikram Sarabhai, Satish Dhawan, U.R. Rao and K. Kasturirangan did far more to advance India’s journey into space. Kalam was an excellent and industrious manager; a devoted organisation man who was rewarded by being made the scientific adviser to the Government of India. It was in this capacity that he was captured in military uniform at Pokhran, despite not being a nuclear specialist of any kind.
A key reason for Abdul Kalam’s rise in public esteem is that he is perceived as a Muslim who stands by his motherland. In the 1990s, as there was a polarisation of religious sentiment across India, Kalam was seen by many Hindus as the Other of the mafia don Dawood Ibrahim. Dawood was the Bad Muslim who took refuge in Pakistan and planned the bombing of his native Bombay; Kalam the Good Muslim who stood by India and swore to bomb Pakistan if circumstances so demanded.
This was the context in which Kalam was picked up and elevated to the highest office of the land by the Bharatiya Janata Party. The BJP wanted, even if symbolically, to reach out to the minorities they had long mistrusted (and sometimes persecuted). In this rebranding exercise, the fisherman’s son from Rameswaram proved willing and able.
A second reason that Kalam is so admired is that he is an upright and accessible public servant in an age characterised by arrogant and corrupt politicians. As President, Kalam stayed admirably non-partisan while reaching out to a wide cross-section of society. He made a particular point of interacting with the young, speaking in schools and colleges across the land, impressing upon the students the role technology could play in building a more prosperous and secure India.
A.P.J. Kalam is a decent man, a man of integrity. He is undeniably a good Indian, but not a great Indian, still less (as the popular vote would have us believe) the second greatest Indian since Gandhi. Notably, the Net voters who ranked Kalam second also ranked Kamaladevi Chattopadhyay 50th, or last. At the risk of sounding elitist, I have to say that in both cases the aam admi got it spectacularly wrong.
III
A nation’s pantheon is inevitably dominated by men and women in public affairs, those who fought for independence against colonial rule, and thereafter ran governments and crafted new laws that reshaped society. One of the appealing things about the exercise I was part of was that it did not choose only to honour politicians. The longlist of 50 had actors, singers, sportspersons, scientists, and social workers on it. Commendably, in their own selection of Ten Great Indians since Gandhi, expert as well as aam admi sought to have a variety of fields represented.
Collating the votes, a final list of 10 was arrived at, which, in alphabetical order read: B.R. Ambedkar; Indira Gandhi; A.P.J. Abdul Kalam; Lata Mangeshkar; Jawaharlal Nehru; Vallabhbhai Patel; J.R.D. Tata; Sachin Tendulkar; Mother Teresa; A.B. Vajpayee.
Reacting both as citizen and historian, I have to say that six of these 10 choices should be relatively uncontroversial. Ambedkar, Nehru and Patel are the three towering figures of our modern political history. J.R.D. Tata was that rare Indian capitalist who promoted technological innovation and generously funded initiatives in the arts. Although in sporting terms Viswanathan Anand is as great as Sachin Tendulkar, given the mass popularity of cricket the latter has had to carry a far heavier social burden. Likewise, although a case can be made for M. S. Subbulakshmi, Satyajit Ray or Pandit Ravi Shankar to represent the field of ‘culture’, given what the Hindi film means to us as a nation, Lata had to be given the nod ahead of them.
It is with the remaining four names that I must issue a dissenting note. Taken in the round, Kamaladevi Chattopadhyay’s achievements are of more lasting value than Indira Gandhi’s. If one wanted a non-Congress political figure apart from Ambedkar, then Jayaprakash Narayan or C. Rajagopalachari must be considered more original thinkers than A.B. Vajpayee. Mr. Vajpayee’s long association with sectarian politics must also be a disqualification (likewise Indira Gandhi’s promulgation of the Emergency).
As for Mother Teresa, she was a noble, saintly, figure, but I would rather have chosen a social worker — such as Ela Bhatt — who enabled and emancipated Indians from disadvantaged backgrounds rather than simply dispensed charity. My caveats about Abdul Kalam have been entered already. In the intellectual/scientist category, strong arguments can be made in favour of the physicist Homi Bhabha and the agricultural scientist M.S. Swaminathan. Although I wouldn’t object to either name, there is also Amartya Sen, acknowledged by his peers as one of the world’s great economists and economic philosophers, and who despite his extended residence abroad has contributed creatively to public debates in his homeland.
To choose 50 and then 10 Great Indians was an educative exercise. One was forced to consider the comparative value of different professions, and the claims and pressures of different generations and interest groups. However, I was less comfortable with the further call to choose a single Greatest Indian. For it is only in autocracies — such as Mao’s China, Stalin’s Russia, Kim Il-sung’s North Korea and Bashir Assad’s Syria — that One Supreme Leader is said to embody the collective will of the nation and its people.
This anointing of the Singular and Unique goes against the plural ethos of a democratic Republic. To be sure, one may accept that politics is more important than sports. Sachin Tendulkar may be the Greatest Indian Cricketer but he cannot ever be the Greatest Indian. But how does one judge Ambedkar’s work for the Dalits and his piloting of the Indian Constitution against Nehru’s promotion of multiparty democracy based on adult franchise and his determination not to make India a Hindu Pakistan? And would there have been an India at all if Patel had not made the princes and nawabs join the Union?
In his famous last speech to the Constituent Assembly, Ambedkar warned of the dangers of hero-worship in politics. In a less known passage from that same speech he allowed that a nation must have its heroes. That is to say, one can appreciate and admire those who nurtured Indian democracy and nationhood without venerating them like gods. In that spirit, one might choose hundred great Indians, or fifty, or ten, or even, as I have ended by doing here, three. But not just One.
(Ramachandra Guha’s books include India after Gandhi and Makers of Modern India. He can be contacted at ramachandraguha@yahoo.in)
Keywords: Greatest Indian After Gandhi, Ramachandra Guha essay, national icons, BJP, Congress, subaltern classes





How about including Swami Vivekananda? Have you all forgot what he had
taught us ?
good food for thought.in our country we tend to go by the popularity wave. we do over hero worship and raise people to demi gods.i remember ads replacing god's face in pictures with that of tendulkar when he scored that last century against bangladesh.we work more at the emotional rather than the rational level.to me a great person is one who is unmoved by the popularity contest but contributes to society in an uncoventional yet pro active way.
That the article finds no mention of the great soldiers who sacrificed
their lives for the country is saddening. Was manekshaw not even worthy
to be mentioned in the article ?
"A nation that forgets it's martyrs will soon itself be forgotten"
On a lighter note, i think the greatest indian is the fool (also mocked
as the "common man") who is still eager to vote the scam rajas and
lalujis and mining dons to power.
Awesome Article!!!...wish there was a like button for comments...very interesting comments!!!...
Well said by Ram Guha - "it is only in autocracies" we can have one person. And just as his list, aam admi's list, commentators list (vivekananda, ramanujan, etc.) are valid as well. It is only in the vested interest of the organising group that they are trying to identify one greatest indian. Ram Guha and others should excuse himself from this self-serving event.
This article provokes us into thinking of various contributors to the nation.To be called greatest Indian, I think, that person should think of ALL India and should be known by all the citizens from all corners of the country. Except Mahatma Gandhi,Jawaharlal Nehru ,Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel ,I am afraid, I cannot name any other.The name of Dr.Babasaheb Ambedkar is, today, known in all parts of the country.Gandhiji once told Nehru that to understand this country, one should travel to all the villages and he did.Despite so many criticism, Nehru had planned so many heavy industries in the public sector( private capital was not available those days) which have resulted in huge employment. Similarly,the fragmentation of the country was thwarted by the clever action of Patel. The rest of the names have all excelled in their fields and are GREAT, no doubt.But ALL INDIA , ONE INDIA ,GREAT INDIA
EQUAL INDIA were the most concern of these three. All children are favourites to their parents
I totally endorse the views expressed by Mr.Ramachandra Guha. Truly there cannot be a second opinion that Dr.Ambedkar was a Great leader who was instrumental in drafting the Constitution of India. He was the main pillar who fought tooth and nail for the uplift of the Dalits and downtrodden. His achievements were not publicized. Jawaharlal Nehru was a Great leader who fought for the Indian freedom. Sri Vallabhai Patel, Sri Vinibha Bhave who introduced the bhoodan movement and why not Rabindranath Tagore who wrote the national anthem for our country. I do not think it is good to have the players of any sport included in the list. M/s. C.Rajagopala chari, Lal Bahadur Shastri, Mother Teresa who is beatified must also be included in the list for the yeoman service she rendered to the people of India.
I am surprised that people of India forget contribution of Chatrapati Maharaj Shivaji in
preserving our Hindu culture and bringing an end to the Mughal culture.Lot of names have
been left out in this article.
I can't deny Gandhi as Great Indian. But some what it may narrated further? We can't say that without Gandhi there is no India. At least we must say because Gandhi India Today. He was front runner in freedom struggle. When the times Nation with poor connectivity, poor communication, poor infrastructure, poor education..... he able to communicate the people, he able to bind the people together, he able to meet the people. How hardship the job is one has to think with open heart and decide.
Whatever we speak about other people and their contributions only after Gandhi's achievement of Independence. I am not his follower, but the sensible fact.
Sachin may not be Great Cricketer, Lata may not be Great Singer, or Apj may not be able do his job ..... if Nation not yet Free India on 15th August 1947.
Guha is right ( don't b confuse with RIOT) .. so Gandhi was also
challenged by Congress even even at times, he got irrelevent in his
short stinnt , after 15-08-1947, resorted to protest , observed fast ,
expressed manifestingly his annoyance, Godse was a mere formality ,
The soul Gandhi is killed by Gandhian ( may include Congress of teh
times) .. what Guha failed to see, He is the only pres, who ensured
India's head is held high , when congress was amused at stopping aid
by aid - india club unilaterally t teach India a lesson , thankfully
under his premiership and association with nationalist govt India
showed what BHARAT means , and the clan ( aid india club ), came on
toes, unilaterally withdrawing , the sanctions, was the most historic
movement , He descended at a time when Gandhian issued the dictum ,
promulgatedn , that Corruption is our blood line, a peep into, a close
examination of his acts in pres house wud show nation what sanity and
propriety means, sadly that was a short stint and his incumbent ,
negated all that he built up .. GUHA forgot he continues to inspire,
not as Muslim , (Guha seems to b color blind , of statesmanship) ,
that has been a forte of few, like AP J Kalam, rafi ahmed kidwai,
azad, K A Abbas ( writer of saat hindustani' ) m c chagla, abdul
hameed, who never acted as Muslims but as statesmen , a rare breed,
that does not need votes, or counting , as bhagat singh ad subhash
bose , r not sarkaree ratnas, but continue to inspire the nation more
than any other hero .. sadly they still dont inspire the pseudo
secularists, who see them as terrorists, and for whom , ANTULAYs ,
Kasabs, shahabuddins r better voices of muslim repressing to ease them
and stay them as the clan dividing the nation .. in misendeaveros and
compromise like that of 1947..
Mr Vikram Hegde above said: '"given what Hindi film means to us a nation" Oh yes sir. Hindi film is what forms the identity of the nation. Us speakers of lesser languages and followers of lesser film industries don't deserve to live in your wonderful country. Nope, we just aren't Indian enough.'
This is a strange remark to make. The writer is not claiming that Hindi films form the "identity" of the nation. He is just saying they are popular across the country (and this seems to be true, I have met several people from non-Hindi speaking states who very cheerfully attribute all their knowledge of Hindi to Amitabh Bachchan movies).
And I wonder why you have to believe any non-Hindi languages are treated today as "lesser" languages. I hope you do realize that Kannada, Telugu, and Tamil are declared Classical Languages of the Union. You will notice that the "lesser" language Hindi is missing from that list.
@virendra gupta Mothing is more true than what you said my friend. People like Mr. Guha keep feeding to hero worshipping tradition and forget the common man.
Mr Ramachandra guha has opened the forum for wider discussions.
There are differing views on who are to be placed first and second in
that order in the nation,s pantheon. It is a million dollar question.
however the subject can be discussed and differing views can be
expressed.One point should be clear that no one can say that this
individual is supreme and he is an icon who has all the qualities to
be our deity.We have a history of 60 years .many illustrious persons
have contributed so much that he cannot be ignored . Same is the case
with every individual who excelled in his field. but he cannot be
number one. A singer, a sitar player , a cricket player cine actor or a
writer cannot occupy that top position THE person WE ARE LOOKING FOR
SHOULD BE A MAN OF WISDOM APART FROM HIS PERFORMANCE PAR EXCELLENCE IN
HIS PET FIELD.He should be recognised by all eminent men in the world.
Such a person is rare except except Gandhiji.
E.Sivasankaran,
Coimbatore
You have hit the nail on the head, Virendra Gupta. Excellent one!!!
Its the common man and woman who work tirelessly to keep our towns and
cities clean that deserve the attention.
I enjoyed reading and am thankful for Ramachandra Guha's essay. I must say I found the comments by Rahul Sudhakar Mane, Mohit Handa, K V Peter, T S Sreenivasan and Krupakar Singhampally well -informed and thought - provoking. It is stimulating to read such writing.
The greatest Indian is that nameless, faceless scavenger woman who carries human excrement over her head to the dump every day, including Sundays, and still manages to smile and believe in God. She could make even a bigger contribution to India by revolting against her treatment.
Awesome Article!! Honestly i didn't even had the cognizance of some of
the great personalty mentioned in the article.But one thing is for sure
we can't give the tag of Great Indians to merely 10 or something
people.They all have done great work in their respective fields and have
contributed in making India a better country for their citizen.I truly
thank them all for their immense and colossal contribution that they
have made for our country. They all are Great!!
In all, I, as a Indian citizen feel that, history should not be fast tracked. For a fast
tracked process will yield fast track results that wont stick to the real history in the
first place. From the basic knowledge that I have got, I feel historians and thinkers
should observe the happenings in the world and analyze it rather than being a part
of it. However, in this world of 24 hr news where everyones wants something new,
even historians and thinkers get hijacked. All I can say is this is just miserable and
sad.
The idea of Mr Anna Hazare and his group of friends taking up corruption albeit in
a partial way were questioned earlier, for the way they self appointed themselves
as champions of anti corruption front was not only undemocratic but the irony was
they were fighting this against a democratically elected government. But at least
corruption is a major issue which has to be fought in some form or other and we
can at least try to overlook Mr. Hazare and his team's hijacking. But then the same
argument cannot be made here. There is really no immediate need for finding the
greatest Indian. Well if you say, oh people need a leader, a thinker, a visionary to
look upon. Well sir, people who want such a person will know where and how to
look for that. There is no need for any one to appoint themselves as mullahs here
to find who we should be looking up towards. I am sorry if my comment sounds
rude, but I saw the poll in outlook and thought well its outlook but to see this in
Hindu!
Dear Sir, From your article it is clear that you have worked hard to come up with a
logical and rational argument of what or who those 10 greatest Indians would be if
we catalogue and elect them. But I am surprised at the very basic fact that you
being one of the eminent historian in Indian history agreed to be a part of this, for
this process violates the very idea of how history happens. You have taken the
saying history is written by winners to a whole new level. I am not questioning your
intelligence or capability, but sir who anointed you and the rest of the committee
to even do this process. The selection of greatest Indian of all after Mahatma
Gandhi (well if he is, history is still evolving there) has to happen along the course
of history. Who are you and your group of scholars to fast track this process?
where are swami vivekananda and Rabindranth Tagore ?. the first one the
man who took the message of India to the world and still today continues
to inspire millions with his words and the other who was one of the
finest of poets.
I fully endorse the views expressed by Shejuguru. If Gandhi was
against Partition as reported, what prevented him from adopting his
usual ploy of fast unto death ideally on the Radcliffe Line, to stop
the horrific destruction of India's soul? Was it because to him,
Nehru's and Jinnah's interests were of far greater concern than that
of Mother India? To me, the greatest Indian during our freedom
movement was undoubtedly Subhas Bose. Irrespective of what the British
said of him in public, they held a sneaking admiration for him in
private because he virtually took on their military might on his own
bat. The British have always appreciated courage in an individual. The
expression "Jai Hind" was coined by him.
Very informative article. Ramchandra Guha is a fine historian. The task of choosing
India's greatest is for future historians who study the impact of various people in
making the conscious of India. It is not for popular vote, which is swayed by the
current sentiments and emotions.
I think we should more value our scientists and artists, than just our politicians.
Politics is an important endeavor, no doubt, but there is greater things that one
can do in one's life.
Well researched and presented. The rural/urban divide and the in person voting/net voting is definetely an eye-opener. In my opinin, the preference of Patel over Nehru could have been the over exposure of Nehru by his successors in the family. The author is right in saying 'Sonia's Congress' instead of plain and simple Congress. Indira Gandhi created the cult image of Panditji like DMK leaders did of Annadurai. And the successors to the throne continued on the same vein. It's a pity nobody thought of Vinoba Bhave, Maha Periyaval of Kanchi Peetam, MS SubbhaLakshmi and Dr BC Roy.
A really nice article, I thoroughly enjoyed reading it!
"given what Hindi film means to us a nation" Oh yes sir. Hindi film is
what forms the identity of the nation. Us speakers of lesser languages
and followers of lesser film industries don't deserve to live in your
wonderful country. Nope, we just aren't Indian enough.
Ramachandra Guha has chosen to explain thread bare the shortcomings of
the so regarded Great Personalities of India.Kamalabai Chattopadhyaya
is just an example of many such great women and also some men who have
lived exemplary lives and left behind invaluable treasures and
traditions.
It is a pity that in our country The politicians,The Cinema artists(I
do not undercry their roles) and the Naxals/Vandals get more
importance than REAL INDIANS WHO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIAL WELFARE.
This write up is enlivening and I suggest that a Bank of names be
collected by polling and the same is evaluated by an expert committee
of THE HINDU and their life styles,ambitions,achievements and
sacrifices are highlighted.Kudos to Mr.Guha for his kick start.
madabushi srinivasan venugopal
Its true we should not indulge in HERO worship, but we require leaders
who really inspire us to achieve our goals. Among contemporary leaders,
none qualifies on this criteria like A.P.J. Abdul Kalam. He is
motivating youth and has contributed enough in nations technological
development.
Why has the name of Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose been left out? Surely we
should consider him to be one of India's greatest sons who virtually
single-handed took on the military might of the British during our
freedom movement? Is it because he is still considered persona non grata
by the Congress party?
The greatest Indian is "the poorest of the poor" who had the timidity,patience and had a phylosophy of giving rather than taking.He received no paid publicity, spoke no foreign language but spoke the language of fellow country men.Corruption is antithesis to him.He did not throw garbages and did not pollute enviornment."Love for all" is his mantra.Self reliance is his policy.He brings happiness and cheers to people around and has no personal ambition or demand.Fear,jealousy and egoism are not in his dictionary."Malice to none and charity for all" is his way of life.He carried no begging bowl or knocked door for favours.He did not glorify himself by using "I" hundred times in his lectures.He did not write autobiographies and enthused reviewers to make sensational remarks so that the autobiography is sold in airport/railway station bookstores in hundreds.My only concern is that"the Poorest of the Poor" gentleman/woman accept the title of the Great Indian.After all ,it is also sponsored.
when we analyse post Gandhian indian history by sitting in the
present, it's difficult to judge and choose the right great indian
without travelling through the past.As all history is
contemporary history all heroes are the greatest product of
contemporary soceity.so instead of choosing the great indian we must
start to study and acknowledge how the destiny of india is shaped
through the past.Then it is easy to pick who are the great,greater and
greatest Indians.Really Guha's essay is a fine
expression of a great Indian.
Sir,You have rightly pointed out the difference of perception between
an expert and an aam adami about a personality.Less understanding of
India since independence and different interpretation of it by various
interest group for personal gains have also contributed to it.But i
would like to differ from you on some great indian's (a) APJ abdul
kalam -You said that he original contribution in the field of science
is limited and he is symbol of good muslim by sectarian segment,but
that is not true.His original contribution might be nil but he made
country able to stand firm in select leagues of nation with her
nuclear programme and taken space programme to a different high.His
years as president has added new dimension to the presidency.His tour
across the country to inspire the youth with his innovative ideas and
simplicity has revolutionary effect.Same goes for Atal bihari
vajpayee,C Subrimanyam and some others in the list.Because of the
constraint of the word i'm ending my words.
Dr Ramachandra Guha's points are well-argued. I must, however, raise a
point in favour of the aam aadmi's choice of Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam. It's
not just that he's a decent and good man or "The Good Muslim" as he
put it. It's that Dr Kalam as President allowed Indians to feel better
about their country as a State. Corrupt and cynical politicians have
besmirched our country's reputation. The common man is ashamed of the
Indian state. The greatest contribution of Dr Kalam has been to make
the highest office in the land an outpost of decency, if only for 5
years. Dr Guha has sadly ignored the symbolic power of cleansing that
Dr Kalam's single term as President has had on the Indian psyche. We
have been uplifted by those 5 years. Even the most cynical Indian
would not call Dr Kalam a "rubber stamp", the derogatory epithet we
apply to all other Presidents. Think about this, Dr Guha. The aam
aadmi is not "spectacularly wrong".
I am surprised, rather shocked, that historian Mr Guha, seems to be unaware that not only Nehru manipulated a lot (including forcing the partition of the nation) to be the 1st PM of this country but that this manipulation also involved blackmailing Gandhiji with the threat of splitting the Congress party if he was not anointed as the 1st PM, leading Gandhiji to prevail on Sardar Patel to withdraw his nomination even after getting 18 votes against just one for Nehru! Anyhow, the saving grace is there because the effort to anoint Nehru as the Greatest Indian after Gandhiji has not succeeded, at least for now. Given the fact that he succumbed to Nehru's blackmail it could rightly be questioned whether Gandhiji could even be considered as the greatest Indian of his times?
Dear Sir,
Most of the individuals that were mentioned in the article were great
in their own field,But when it comes to greatest Indian we must follow
generalist approach .I was shocked when i haven't seen Ravindranath
Tagore name in the list.He deserves a better treatment.
There can never be just one Indian who can be called "the greatest". Several great Indians have made their contributions and continue to do so, in so many spheres. Be it health / education / politics / science / culture and so on.
Mahatma Gandhi will forever remain THE Greatest Indian.
In post-independent India ,we can give credit to Nehru for building India as a secular democracy and for inculcating scientific temper. A leader like Dr.Ambedkar who was truly inspirational not just to Dalits but to all marginalised sections of the Society deserves to be called a great Indian as well.
When fancy terms like "social justice" and "identity politics" were unheard of - "Periyar" EVR in Tamil Nadu - led a relentless movement against upper caste hegemony and for the "self respect" of the backward classes and he was a great Indian too.
The list will go on - let us remember all these leaders and many more who have made great contributions to this Country.
Great reading ! Very thought provoking !
As such there is no dearth of great persons in India and it is not possible to identify any one as the greatest person.
But the outstanding vertue of any great person is how he/she inspires others like Gandhiji,Obama or Hitler.The same parameter applies to Kalam.He may not have so said qualifications or achievemnt but his thinking has inspired many.His thoughts,his sincerity and dedication have appealed to people.
I wonder in the same context how the name of some religious saint is missing who like Morari Bapu inspires millions of people to regulate their lives.
You are stripping APJ Abdul Kalam of the title of greatest Indian, just because his contribution to the field of science is not fundamental? You must be confusing the list of greatest scientists with greatest Indians.
The list for greatest Indians should consist of the people who have greatly contributed in developing the country and making it great. APJ Abdul Kalam, in recent times, has emerged as the major role model for the Muslim youths (for the rest of youth too). He has been a key factor in restoring the faith and confidence of a country in the Presidentship, in science and in Minority leaders. He deserves to be up there with Gandhi.
Interesting and a thought provoking article. I guess no one has to agree with Mr. Guha in the letter but still it gives an impetus to think about what some people have done for the country and what we can do to further the good and to undo the damage the past/present crop of guys in power are into.
Welcome back to Hindu Mr. Guha! Oh, how much I miss your 'past and present' column.
"Greatest Indian" in itself is a misnomer. Every individual talked in
here had some aspiration to leave behind through his/her action, which
today's society will use as an anchor to perceive the past and inspire
the future. As time changes, so will aspirations and perceived realities
of the societies. Perhaps "What inspires you in these individuals? "
would be a better way to let the "you's" answer it for themselves and
honor it as did these individuals did.
First of all there is nothing wrong in appreaciating, or worshipping as you are calling it, great personalities. In fact it is good for a society to have role models so that people can aspire to have some, if not all, of their personality traits.
Secondaly your objection to Kalam seem to be based on incomplete conception of greatness. You have ignored the backdrop against which someone becomes great. For example Mahatama's greatness got magnified in the context of freedom struggle. Similarily Kalam becomes great in the current setting where values are cheaper. Also you are seeing him through the prism of original thinking only. His greatness lies in the fact that he has inspired a whole generation to be original thinkers with values. Future historians will definitely take note of this.
Hilaire Belloc once wrote that the key to Fame is one's ability to
impress the younger generation. "Chacha" Nehru did the same, and got
Guha's respect; while APJ Kalam got our (the netizen's) adulation.
Nevertheless, its a wonderful article, where he articulately and
decisively provides his viewpoint on the greatest Indian(s), and rightly
stops before anointing the Singular and Unique.
This is, no doubt, a subjective essay. Opinions of people will differ
and questions will surely be raised on declaring 'Gandhi' as the
Greatest Indian of all time! However, I have another point of
objection. Though there will be debates on the merit of declaring
Kamaladevi Chattopadhyay as the "Greatest Indian Woman", but I am not
questioning the selection. I am questioning the word used for her. Why
is she regarded in a separate category i.e." Greatest Indian Woman"
and not the "Greatest Indian" by the way? Do you mean to say that
Indian Women are "different types of Indians" (lesser mortals)and not
the same as other "Indians"? Do you mean to say that male Indians were
"Greater" than their female counterparts and females should not be
compared with them? Such a ridiculous epithet for one of the greatest
Indians of all time i.e. "Greatest Indian Woman"!
A very good exercise in looking back at the past. Some have mentioned missed
names from your list already. I have a couple of my own.
I highlight the names of JC Bose and SN Bose in the scientific arena of the country.
The fact that they were not even mentioned and still are not speaks about the
India's self awareness.
If reality does not dent the perception in India, I must say no one should complain
about brain drain and the lack of leaders in India.
Let us celebrate the current crop of leaders erected as monumental (of what I
wonder) by the degenerate press in India. It appears that more than the political
class, India lives under the yoke of it's press, molding perception that is farthest
from reality. I call this perception "A Fool's Paradise".
I don't understand this fascination that we Indians have with individual personalities. Please
don't get me wrong. These are all very accomplished people who changed the course of
history in India.
Why can't the greatest Indian be an unknown solider who sacrifices his life for our freedom,
or the freedom fighter who fought tyranny so we can enjoy peace, an unknown farmer who
toils hard to feed billion mouths, an annonymous teacher who instills value to our kids, or
Laxman's common man who suffers through his life to make ends meet and yet does not
revolt.
A thought-provoking Article for everyone who has a basic knowledge of matters concerning our present-day life. To quote Einstein "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid. Going by the first sentence the entire humanity comprise of geniuses and where is the relevance of a few being great.If it is on the basis of one"s profession it cannot stand to reason even for a moment.In my perception all persons irrespective of his professional calling whether a politician scientist a farmer a cobbler or a Corporation employee to name a few are on an equal footing and should come under the category of great and carry the appellation uniformly not selectively as at present. This selectiveness leads to iodal worship during and after one's life which is totally alien to democracy and for this the nation is paying a heavy price. The sooner comparison and complexes are done away with the better for the nation.
First of all, this whole idea of having a survey to choose 'greatest
Indian after Gandhi' is totally insane.Every era had it's own heroes
and to compare them all at once is ludicrous.Although Gandhi was a
great leader, there were others who sacrificed their life under the
shadows of Gandhi in the struggle for freedom.Do we know them at
all??? there were thousands of unsung heroes in different eras who
have not come in limelight.So to put a list of celebrities like
sachin,bachchan and lata mangeshkar shows naivety of the jury and
insanity of media in conducting a survey like this.The word 'hero' or
rather 'greatest Indian 'over here does not represent a man who has
changed lives of billion but one who has entertained billionsand
hence,I totally disagree with the list of names who have been
nominated.
Thank you for highlighting the work of my grandmother Kamaladevi Chattopadhyaya.
Apart from her other achievements we as a family had the privilege of witnessing first hand the work she did with craftspeople in rural areas, she worked tirelessly to revive Indian Handicrafts, she took us (my mother, brother and I)to remote areas all over India, to meet weavers, potters, wood workers and toy makers.
She was a loving and indulgent grandmother and I will forever cherish the memories of her and the wonderful education we received, along with a full appreciation of the rich heritage of India and its crafts people.
Sir
I would place Bose and Patel before Nehru. If it was not for Bose and INA the British
would not leave India and Patel who cemented the Indian states into the fabric of the
nation there would not have been any India as we know now.
This article shows how the thinking of the common man is very
much different to the jury which is responsible for the selection
of top 10 Indian..i would rather say the Iron MAN is the greatest
of all the Indians mentioned in the list.but in this article some
the told stories are also unveiled.
Most of the online poll is done by the youth which actually don't
cast their vote as enthusiastically as online.that's why the
common men idea is very much different to the jury.
the youth would support that person who was actually seen by them
working for the country rather than some one whose greatness is
shown by government books (N.C.E.R.T.)which is also politically
endangered.
Thank you for your article. All are great and unique.
To begin with, it is an interesting article. Greatest Indian since Gandhi. Firstly, "great" itself is a perception. I don't agree with the author on Mr.Kalam's. The author says that he was not the greatest nuclear or space scientist lie Baba or KAsturi Rangan. If you extent the same argument, Gandhi did not start the independence movement. Many people gave their lives before Gandhi. Gandhi was able to bring people together in an unified fight, just like the way Kalam did to rejuvenate India's space/nuclear program to put India on par with US and other countries. So, why should Kalam be any different than Gandhi.
It is disappointing to see Sachin Tendulkar or Lata Mangeshkar in the list. Yes, they are wonderful in the filed of sports/entertainment. But, their contribution to society is none. In fact, M.S.Subbulakshmi was not only a great singer, but contributed to society a lot.
"Greatest person is not a great self-achiever, but help the society achieve more".
Yes,I do agree that the ideas put forth in this article needs immense thought process to come out with "The Greatest Indian".The views expressed from experts are varying greatly from "aam admi" as the later is living in the present.Its true that our text books hardly mention about great leaders,except for a few. "To choose 50 and then 10 Great Indians was an educative exercise",this is what "aam admi " is in need of,"Education".He needs knowlegde to take wise decision. The difference in decision from that of jury infact replicates Indian scenario of electing our leaders also. This idea has been greatly promoted ,mails have been circulated in offices and discussions were held.But,dicussions were only limited to alive and elevated personalities. Should this be the basis of selection? This analysis could only show that people of India need a leader, they know that even a highly qualified person can be exploited.Finally "I fear lions led by Sheep than a Lion leading Sheep".Change awaited.
It would be prudent to rank the top 10 best and worst things happened since independence
and identify people behind them and then rank them based on those accomplishments.
The 10 best things in my list - White revolution, Green revolution, Nuclear capability, Space
communication, Missile capability, Annexation & formation of Indian union, victory in 1965
war, victory in 1971 war, economic liberalization, IT revolution. 10 worst things - Indo-Pak
partition migration, Defeat in 1962 war, License Raj, 1975 Emergency, Anti-Sikh riots,
Godhra riots, 2G scam, rural poverty & malnutrition, Inadequate healthcare, inadequate
infrastructure - water, energy.
Indira Gandhi was the ablest Prime Minister of India besides her controversial emergency term. She had successfully led India in 1971 war.What a lady she was! She had successfully launched india in science & research programmes. She successfully led India in Punjab's terrorism era. She made India "A Big Power" by her diplomatic thinkings. She was in actual greatest indian daughter.
A brilliant analysis as only Ramachandra Guha can make. But in the Indian context the greatest Indian could only be one whose work had or is having the widest and deepest impact on our society pan-India in areas that are fundamental and crucial to our existence as a nation like education, employment, health, livelihood, social equality etc where even today after 65 years of independence we are far far behind. In this light, even M.K.Gandhi's contributions may have to be re-assessed and juxtaposed against those of other compatriots.
Do we really need a figure called the "greatest Indian" in a plurastic and hetergenous society like India? I think this is a wasteful exercise. I would even refrain from calling Gandhi the greatest Indian as in our society we do not need such titles. As rightly pointed out by Dr. Ambedkar we cannot allow hero worship in our country which unfortunatley is rampant in every sphere of our society. Rather than putting a stop to it we are encouraging it through such opinion polls.
In such exercises, the journey is more important than the destination.
It allows us to learn about and be inspired by the greatness of our
stalwarts. This op-ed is interesting for the same reason (I for one
had not heard of Kamaladevi Chattopadhyay, and am now determined to
learn more about her). That leads me to believe that this 'contest'
would have better framed in the format of BBC's "100 greatest Britons"
program. Each episode had one person championing the case for his
favorite Briton and the voting by the public was at the very end. This
would have been particularly apt in the Indian context, given the
constricted view of Indian personalities and history that we are
subjected to (as pointed out by Dr. Guha here). The result would not
have mattered much, as we all would have emerged winners, richer by
the examples set by others. God knows we need more heroes in this
country.
But how about doing a 'top 100 rogues of India' list, Dr. Guha? You
would be spoilt for choice!
I don't think there is so need to classify a single person to be be greatest,rather we need to make a database of greatest indians after Gandhi. We should make this database along with their achievements in their respective fields and the difficulties faced by them and get it distributed freely in schools,colleges,universities,government offices and in internet freely.Let the public of India be known of their real heroes.
Not that hard to point to the most influential Indian of all time
(even though forgotten in the land of his birth)
- Siddhartha Gautama
This is one of the best informative article I have ever read.Long but still Concise. Thanks
I am not being flippant, amusing, or belittling this great article. Will The Hindu (who else) now spend some time and effort to determine/discuss who would be the "worst" Indian (male or female; maybe there can be two selections based only on gender). I request Mr. Guha to provide his great insight and experience into this aspect. I wonder if this task would be more difficult.
Dear Sir,
Congratulations for writing a very analytical article. However, I
would like to point out a few issues overlooked. Firstly, it is the
fallacy of anointing any single individual the greatest (whether
Mahatma Gandhi himself or others after him) in a country of myriad
cultural and social belief systems with their respective rich
histories. Each social unit can claim greatness for its particular
idol. Secondly, there remains the perennial question of the
'mainstream vs marginalised' debate being addressed; especially,
when voices from those sections of the society which have not found
true expression even in our NCERT history books. How many of us know
comprehensively about the people in the tribal areas of
Chhotanagpur, Northeast etc. amongst others? Aren't they a part of
the Indian Nation? If yes, then do we know anything about their
histories, customs and traditions, except for racial profiling????
When one considers these points carefully, this whole exercise looks
futile.
Excellent article! The exercise is meaning less. The organizers couldn't distinguish between successful and greatest Indians. Sachin is very successful sports person but not the greatest Indian. The sports and the country has given him much more than what he has given to the country (except few hours of satisfaction during the matches). If we have to include successful people then Ambani, Mittal, Murthy should be included.
When it comes to South, generally only personalities from Tamilnadu are mentioned or included. Periyar was mentioned but nor T.Prakasam or Rama Rao (who was instrumental in 1980s to start a viable opposition front).
The very topic itself conveys that it is a relatvie term and so here Francis Bacons' thoughts are apt to be discussed before an inference for, it is an endless one like sky without " extremities" .
Great post..and it re-affirms my belief that ranking across professions and beyond generations is generally pointless and purely a wasteful exercise.
Obviously, we are looking for role models. I agree with all you mentioned about
President Kalam's lack of original contributions. But, any day I'd rather have a nation
emulate him than anyone else on the short list. Like some other responders
mentioned above, its not just the personal achievement but how they affected all
around them for the better that makes them heroes and role models.
What Lata and Tendulkar at Par with Nehru and Gandhi. For God sake pl stop this. Enough is Enough.
There were/are many great persons in our country.But it is not proper to
single out any one as the greatest.There is no need to rank great
Indians.At a time when our country is passing through a critical phase,
let us contribute to resolving the conflicts.
I am surprised to see The Hindu gifting one precious page.
That was an excellent essay in some regards. But then Mr.Guha missed to include the other stream of freedom fighters, who also made remarkable deeds, such as Bhagat singh, Bose et al.If the context of the word "greatest" lies within personalities who have done great things and inspired many minds in our country ,the above two names stands still there. though we need not to project a "greatest", but the agreeable number of "greatest indians" should include these men as well.
Such a fantastic piece by Guha! Of course, it's always quite soothing either to listen to him or read him.
A very interesting read and a rewarding scholarly work.
where swami vivekananda,netaji subhas chandra bose. i just cant understand if what they have actually done for india, i am not telling their hand to make this india but if subhas chandra was not there we still remain under foreign rule, really frustrating to see those name rather than swami vivekananda, netaji. as indian i dont think they should be in 5 there are many more. pls ask those who are in list about their idol, whom they used to follow in their lives.
Very illuminating. I agree that Mahatma Gandhiji is the greatest Indian of not only our time, but of all times, because only he could for once emotionally integrate India from border to border.Only Gandhiji could give us that sense of belonging that gives significance to that elusive concept of Bharat Mata as a reality and not an illusion.
A disappointing article indeed. How can someone figure B.R Ambedkar or
Dr. Nehru as the greatest Indian after Gandhiji when there are people
like Lal Bahadur Shastri and Subhash Chandra Bose who devoted their
life to their country .According to me greatest Indian should be a
person who works for India's welfare and not for the welfare of
particular cast or group of society .Also, the greatest Indian should
not be the one who keeps his personal priority and his family over our
country. Mr. Shastri worked for our country whoheartedly and always
kept India as his first priority (over him and his family) unlike Dr.
Nehru. He is the combination of dedication, ethics, honesty, integrity,
responsibility, & austerity which makes him the greatest Indian in my
eyes .
Wonder how Guha ji has forgotten Vinoba ji and Netaji as mentioned by Venkat in his comment.Vir Savarkar and Bal Thackeray,Sarojini Devi,Syam Prasad Mookerji, Alladi Krinamachari,R.K.Narayan,Blitz Karanjia, Current Karaka,Minoo Masani,Chandresekar,Jayaprakash,Pillo Modi,Kulapathi KM.Munshi,if the list is confined only to politicians of the past.In their own way,they raised the flag of India, and lived as Proudly Indians.
I don't believe in who is greatest or who is not ? I just praise them for their good work. I totally agree with Guha.From my point of view we should concentrate more on shaping India's future and try to make another great Indian while walking on the path of these great Indian's.Today we want more great Indians for the prosperity progress development of India.
Where is Swami Vivekananda, Bhagat singh, Mangal Pandey,Bharathiyaar, Rabindranath Tagore,Swaminathan, Varghese Kurien,Aryabhatta,Ramanujam,Aadi Shankaran,Veda Vyasa, and last but not the least Subhash chandra bose. Do you think that they cannot be the greatest or are they second class citizens to Gandhiji and the other greats mentioned by you. History of India dates back to more than 10,000 years. In the history of Indian Civilization,the personalities mentioned by you has very very less significance. I dont say that Gandhiji was not great, but cannot be the greatest Indian of all times.
Respected Sir,
It saddens me to the core that your entire article bears no mention of Rabindranath Tagore.An Indian polymath,his work in literatur,art,painting,cinema,poetry and theatre is unparalleled.Apart from this,his philosophical and political thinking influenced the greatest political leaders of India. The first Non-European to win the Nobel Prize in Literature,Tagore's work has been recognised worldwide and has immense social,cultural and political bearing in the present context.A man of great integrity and character,Tagore helped establish Visva-Bharati in Santiniketan and renounced his knighthood in response to the Jallianwala Bagh massacre.Rabindranath Tagore is undoubtedly one of the greatest,if not the greatest Indian.
Sir, I agree with you that choosing one great personality of India would be a disservice to other great personalities including Gandhi and only an autocracy can have the greatest leader. But why the show was named 'Greatest Indian since Gandhi' eludes me. The only reason coming to me is that he was already choosen as the greatest, which defies your own logic. Despite being a great leader, he had some deficiencies which were highlighted by Dr Ambedkar during his debates with him. But still it seems to me that he was anointed as the greatest by media,elite, show organisers and the jury including you. As pointed out by you that a democracy cannot have only one great leader, then how can Gandhi be given the title of Greatest, that too without any debate or any poll.
The only freedom fighter in the final list of ten is Jawaharlal Nehru. There are singers and sports persons in the list. But Veer Savarkar and Bhagat Singh are not there.
The reason Nehru gets disqualified for me, or atleast ranks after Patel, is for the very fact that Nehru WANTED Prime minister-ship, and claimed it as it was his to take, as opposed to Patel who let go despite having been voted as the obvious choice by the Congress Party then. Nehru was a good man no doubt about that but greatness is something he forgo by asking what should not have been his. And I do agree with Mr. Guha when he says that for a country our size and diversity it is not a very good idea to have such a poll in the first place. On the contrary I would have loved if instead of this charade the organizers had started something called 'India's Forgotten Heroes'; or even & 'The great Indians'; .Instead of forcing their will/opinion on someone let the people decide for themselves who is great';. Then maybe we will have an open debate. I did not know anything about Kamaladevi Chattopadhyaya till I read this article. I will do a bit of research on her and find out who she actually is.
Sir Greetings!!
This is great to see that after all we Indians have started exploring beyond Gandhi but could not go beyond (Indira) Gandhi. Although the Gandhi clan is highly respectable and has made enormous contributions to modern India, I dis-agree with the fact that any politician be included in the list, from post Nehru era.
That was the time when our country needed to be shaped and whatever proud we carry today is because of efforts put in by leaders, during and pre Nehru era. No where in the world is remembered who invented a tube light. Every body remembers Thomas Edison. And I believe that it has to be a torch bearer, who needs to be honoured with the most prestigious title after 'father of the nation'.Torch bearers first and contributors second.
Then we have got some extremely talented people like you to decide upon.
Thank You
Dear Mr. Guha, I have lots of respect for you, love 2 hear ur views on any issues at any point of time...and almost on every point, I do agree with u..but here in one line, no way I can agree & that is, when u said,'SRT may be the Greatest Indian Cricketer, but he cannot ever be the Greatest Indian. Do u have any doubt? He is the Gr8st Indian sports person ever, nvr put a Q mark on that,& let me tell u, he many ways more deserved to be in the list of Gr8st indian than some of ur choosen candidates..and why we people are so critical about a sports person being voted as the Grtst Indian ever..why only Politicians think about Impact/Influence, even u Know it, no other indian have that same impact/Influence on the people of India more than SRT.. He is the symbol of Hope/Joy/Prid /Singlemindedness/Humble/Dignity & above all, he is some1 who made us blv that YES, we Indians can b world beater ?? What else u need..Ohh, he is nt a politician, Ohhh he does not know corruption..!
The author is certainly the greatest living historian in India and he is well qualified to write a Book on the theme selected by him. It is rather difficult to select one man, as you will have to view through different angles. Mahatmaji was considered as the greatest man of the last century,as he influenced several countries and several leaders of the world.The Esteemed writer heron, I find, has struggled hard to pinpoint the greatest Indian since Mahatma Gandhi, as a member of a jury. He has now recommended a panel of three Consisting Ambedkar, Nehru and Patel. Ramachandra Guha is competent to find out the Greatest man himself and the readers expect him, to complete this work individually or With other thinkers from India or abroad. The writer feels, that the greatest man should be from those who have spent their lives for the entire populace. That means, the particular individual would have worked for a particular party or in Govt. A good debate. C.P.Chandra Das, Coimbatore.
I do not accept your reservations for accepting Indira Gandhi as a great Indian because of her emergency.She would not have declared emergency if her mandate was not sought to be stolen by JP movement's right wing leaders.They also gave a call to the security forces to disobey unlawful orders which in effect is provoking mutiny.Not condemning this and only pillorying her for the emergency is in my opinion intellectual dishonesty.Her nationalization of banks kept us safely away from the global financial crisis.Also on her own volition she held the most free and fair elections and handed over power gracefully when defeated.
APJ Kalam's greatest achievement is that he was the architect of India's rocketry program. At a time when such ambitions were just laughed at, he persevered, and distributed the workload among all the good workers throughout India (despite objections of babus) and made it a success. He showed, for the first time that we can do it, and such a feat from the child of illiterate parents is bound to be inspiring to the aam aadmi. Historians with half cooked facts may not like it, but they are definitely wrong this time. Indira Gandhi too scores because she turned our begging bowl into food surplus. Bank Nationalization, necessary for success of green revolution was her bold step, as well as the liberation of Bangladesh. She is often branded as dictator. But no dictator ever looses election. I am more inclined to consider that a mistake, costly, but still a mistake.
I would agree that trying to accord that honor of the greatest Indian since Gandhi to just one Indian is an arduous and an unfair task. In the days post independence leaders like Nehru established their greatness by being truly inclusive, democratic and setting a vision for modern India. Nehru, Vallabhai Patel were to varying degrees just that.
But once the nation and its credo got established it was about ushering economic growth, bringing in food security, building a nation. Bringing such a change, infusing such an optimism would certainly have lasting impact for generations to come. I would have loved to see economists, scientists and politicians who were instrumental in making this happen make the cut. Would a Narasimha Rao be considered more deserving than Vajpayee? Would an MS Swaminathan pip Lata Mangeshkar?
The article is perfect sequel to book by Dr. Guha,'India After Gandhi' and by Dr. Bipin Chandra, 'India after Independence'. Article helps to reflect on historical figures and events with a fresh look without comparing contributions but by raising questions about what qualities of a person inspired millions to transform their lives, which biographies actually mattered while traversing through muddled waters of social transformation, struggle for political independence, quest for economic opportunities to be self reliant, efforts directed to develop scientific passion and infrastructure in India, presenting equally world class art for critical appreciation coming from all classes,finding out essence of lively pleasure out of art & media,nurturing culture of healthy competition & habit of sportsmanship.These kind of surveys, even-though,driven by some commercial exercise, helps to revisit and redefine the ethos, ideals we were and are living for. (Post script: Rankings can be misleading.)
A nation's hero is the one,who is admired or made everlasting impact on the minds of people. In the case of greatest Indian, we may consider service to our country.Here i would like to make a strong point for APJ Abdul Kalam . We cannot argue that our freedom fighters were better indians than our present dedicated patriotic indian. It was under leadership of kalam, we acheived space programme.He was instrumental in indigeneous missile development,and thereby providing sense of security against our enemy neighbours.So he could be compared with patel. He is the role model for an idealistic indian ,who inspires students scholars,educationists,scientists. No parent tell to their children to become a politician .In present case they tell them to be our former president.
Greatest Indians, how does it have the picture of Nehru alongside Sardar Patel? And no mention of Subhash Chandra Bose, or Bhagat Singh? The author doesn't seem to have got any of his priorities right in this article. Please give credit where it is due. To know who is the greatest, one has to broaden one's view and consider everyone and not keep looking at the same list again and again. Gandhi is not the greatest Indian we had.
Trying to judge 'the greatest Indian Since Gandhi' may be a fun for the persons involved but it is a silly exercise. Much like beauty greatness is in the mind of each individual. As the author says the present popular narrative casts a long shadow over the past, certainly in the popular mind. India will have many persons, men and women, of achievement and that should be sufficient and passage of time will provide a perspective on their accomplishments. I found the author's description of Kamaladevi Chattopadhaya's work informative and interesting. In a male dominated society like India, it is hard for women to get noticed unless they are in a position of power.
Sportspersons,artists etc. should not be placed in great Indians list.Rather we should place great doctors,engineers and advocates like nani palkhiwala and also great economists,whose policies change the life of common people.civil servants,police and great army officers,who lay down their lives for country and people should be there in the list.
More than the exercise of selecting great personalities, the rigour shown in applying a credible methodology is commendable. Often, one gets swayed by big names and popular sentiments that inject 'noise' into the facts. While selecting ONE greatest Indian since Gandhi is almost like choosing the SINGLE most vital organ of your body -- brain, heart, liver, kidney, eyes, ears, nose etc. -- nonetheless, it is a useful exercise because it opens our mind to critical thinking and helps us reclaim our oft-forgotten collective value system. This, I must add, is one project, where the process is more important that the outcome.
Dear sir, Baba amte was not recommended by any of the experts nor you.It is truly sad to forget him inspite of his tremendous efforts for the service of leprosy affected people and the adivasis.Considering the scale of his work he should have been nominated for Bharat ratna.Even though he has passed away,his work is still in progress with same vigour and dedication carried on by his future generations.
Very informative. The writer has described very clearly some of the perceptions this generation has, specially relating to Ex President Kalam.To choose unanimously the greatest Indian after Gandhiji is always going to be tough.Sorry to say, but Ambedkar will always get most votes online in this age and in coming times.It has more to do with things other than his contributions.But one thing is clear that Sachin Tendulkar is the Greatest Indian since 1960 or in the last 50 years.I don't remember any one inspiring, giving hope and happiness to Indians other than Sachin for such a long duration.Infact, there is no competition if we take into account last 25 years.It is more to do with personal ambitions of our political leadership.
We all need heroes who inspire us and egg us to perform better. In that respect, such list of all time greats may be helpful but to say that the contribution of one person might be better that the other may not be correct. I am a person who grew up reading Amar Chitra Katha comics about Indian hero and i felt that every person if studied well is an inspiration. Let us not get into unwanted discussions on who is the best and work hard in our own little ways to make things better for people around us.
Worth reading.Working of successive government damaged the image of Nehru.I think one should be evaluated in totality.And for this all are required to go in deep study.It is unfortunate that who so ever remains in power does not allow to come true picture before the public.How one can forget that Vajpayee asked to put photo of Nehru in the corridor of his office.This photo was removed by the officials when govt. changed.Who soever in power must see that the proper publicity is given to all irrespective of party, cast, religion and gender. Then only true picture will come before the society.
Dear Sir,
I have read the article about the greatest Indian after Mahatma Gandhi. I am of the same view but I have something to add to this about role of A. B. Vajpayee and Jay Prakash Narayan.
1) The movement against Emergency led by Shri Jay Prakash Narayan was one of the most striking movements after Indian Independence but it was unable to achieve what was desired of it. And about Shri A. B. Vajpayee, I would like to say that though he was associated with Hindu sectarians in the country but he was the only moderate Hindu in that period. He cannot be simply discredited for what he has done to India as a whole. He became Prime Minister thrice from 1996-2004 and led the country brilliantly in Kargil war and he is the only politician in this country who remarked his chief Minister to follow 'Raj Dharma'.
Perhaps the most important question to ask in such matters is whether the person has raised the consciousness of the nation to a higher level.If that is taken as a criterion,Nehru and his daughter Indra would win hands down.Nehru laid the foundations of a democratic India and his hand is evident in all the institutions we have at present at a time when we were in the dumps with poverty,illiteracy,and every backwardness imaginable.His daughter Indra,with a single stroke of genius,crushed our greatest existential threat from neighbour Pakistan.In addition she handled the serious threat of secession in our nation by the fundamentalists in Pakistan.My vote goes to Nehru because the challenges he faced were herculean,and he overcame most of
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Comparing the likes of Ambedkar and Vallabhai Patel with Sachin Tendulkar and Latha Mangeshkar seems bizarre to me. Each of these individuals have made India glorious in their own defining ways. One cannot question the greatness of Sachin, just because unlike MK Gandhi, he has never shed a drop of blood!! APJ's technical or nuclear expertise may not be in par with Homi Bhaba or Kasthuri Rangan. But he has certainly been exceptional in inspiring and en-kindling the young citizens to contribute towards research in science and technology that India is miserably lacking. That trait clearly gives him more credibility than his counterparts since he is influencing the future of an entire nation and not that of just an organization such as ISRO or DRDO. The whole exercise of choosing the best Indian is irrelevant and is being sensationalized by the Indian media for sheer ratings and publicity. For God's sake, Please leave all these poor achievers to themselves! They deserve some dignity!
An excellent read.
As a rule, the list will be devoid of any personality from the North East. Since history is written, I believe by intellectuals, intellectuals who are duty bound to rise beyond narrow parochial prejudices, the silence of Indian historians on Assam(read North East)'s contribution to the Freedom Struggle as as well as NAtion building is surprising ...or should I say revealing. This selective amnesia is far reaching and encompasses the medieval and ancient periods as well - no mention of the Ahom General Lachit Barphukan who crushed the mighty Mughals in Saraighat, or the fact that the Mughals attacked Assam 19 times only to be defeated again and again( at a time when most of India was under their control).
It is like opening up our eyes.The way the information is broadcast-ed and publicized in our nation it is impossible to form the right perspective as it is getting formed while reading the above article.
It is also important to read the works of the studied people(difficult read but worth it) rather read or listen a loose talk in print or T.V. One has to know that T.V. and Newspaper print can't be your Ultimate source for forming perspective and opinion.
Very balanced article. About greatest Indian - each one has his own greatest personalities, why we should declare a particular person a greatest? For that, it will undermine work of other greats as well as our heteriogenous society will not accept majority view.
Nethaji is not in the list?
To say the least, this entire exercise is quite futile. Each generation, region,status in wealth, power or education or perception makes different choices. And each has an equal claim and rightly so.
The last few paras laying emphasis that it is difficult to zero in on one GREAT INDIAN is well said. And what is more important is to follow at least in some respect whom one greatly respects or admires as the greatest Indian, than just to hero worship and pay lip sympathy to him or her.
You all are taking the names of various leaders may all have done great works. We Indians have forgotten the role of Netaji who lived in vain a great symbol of SACRIFICE, PATRIOTISM and LEADERSHIP. Can you compare his role with Indra Gandhi, A B Vajpaee?
Another leader of the era who made a lasting impact but is misisng from the list is Kanhailal Munshi. He was the Indian representative in Hyderabad at a crucial time and also founded the Bhartiya Vidya Bhavan. After 60 years, the Bhavan multi-volume History and Culture of the Indian People is still the standard reference. It has its flaws but the attempts that came later have not met its standards of objectivity and scholarship.
Abdul Kalam shines because as Maharshi Dayananda Saraswati once said: In desert where nothing grows, a castor plant looks an oak.; He is no scientist but a technologist of no great distinction, but a capable administrator.
The author mentions Subramanyam (rightly) for his contribution to the Green Revolution, but not Tribhuvandas Patel whose idea of local cooperatives created the milk revolution.
The winner hands down is Sardar Patel. He integrated the states, and no less significantly, gave India a functioning government as British hold began to slip.
B. R. Ambedkar is respected or used as a tool to play politics should be interrogated deeply. Respect, worshiped as god is altogether a different issue.
1. Enormous amount of documents, and supports are there to validate the bitter relationship between Nehru and Patel.
Excellent!! My facts are limited, but I will dare to say I will not include Tendulkar or Lata Mangeshkar in the list of 10. The idea of 'greatest' can be very subjective, but in my opinion we have to look for someone who has had greatest impact on our lives as Indians. In our country where millions go hungry, neither cricket nor bollywood are much significant. Would my life change if we did not have the likes of Tendulkar or Mangeshkar? No for sure. I am sure we will have to think hard if Patel, Nehru or Ambedkar were the people involved in this question. I don't even know how we would have shaped as a country if not for them.
Excellent article; great style. I fully agree with Mr. Guha's conclusion. Although heroes are helpful to reflect a nation's sentiments, we must not follow the heroes blindly however great they may be.
Such a brilliant piece could have come only from one of the greatest Indian historians! It always intrigued me as to why we had only one photo in our currency despite being a nation of billions :)
Thank you very much for this article. Perhaps, only in The Hindu, I will be able to read such articles. Thank you.
RMR, 20 July 2012
The list itself is controversial as Mr. Guha pointed out. But there is another question that irks me.. Is it perfectly fine to consider Gandhi the greatest Indian of all time? I believe that the question of the greatest man after Gandhi comes only after we answer this question..
Gandhi's role in building India is in no way, insignificant. But was he the greatest Indian of all time?
sir, an excellent article no doubt..only thing is that when we r considering greatest indian after gandhi..we should not consider nehru, patel n ambedkar as they lost to gandhi at that time and no point of considering now. i dont mean to say that they are not great but they lost to gandhi. another point where i deviate from you on APJ. he might not be original thinker but he performed his responsibility excellently. and inspiring millions of youth for nation building in this dynamic and global environment is no less a job of one of the greatest indians. Afterall every legend or scientist or economist or singer inspires generations to take challenges of respective field. Originality of idea is not all about being greatest...otherwise there is nothing original!
I find myself in total agreement with you, Dr.Guha on: Kamaladevi...( Nico Slate's recent book Colored Cosmopolitanism)... supervised the resettlement of refugees; still later, she set up an all-India network of artisanal cooperatives, and established a national crafts museum as well as a national academy for music and dance. ... from this historian's point of view, she has strong claims to being regarded as the greatest Indian woman of modern times...'
I recall vividly the opportunity that I had of having a long chat with her and Rukmini Devi Arundale, when I went to invite them for a cultural function; it is a different matter that they could not come over.
I agree with on your analysis, otherwise also.
Hello Sir,
You present a curious case in your endeavor. While constantly saying that you do not want to be risked calling elitist, you have gone ahead and done exactly that. The priamry question is who is the greatest Indian. Of course, this is a very loaded term as you have mentioned. But are we trying to prove something here to the 'Others'(read non-Indians) in trying to select someone who has produced tangible outcomes or are we trying to select a person who has captured the imagination or rather intangibly enabled others to produce tangible results (Kalam for e.g.,). Undeniably, some of the personas you have mentioned have produced immense results as statesmen, scientists, culturalists or as administrators. In my opinion though, the greatest person is one who doesn't do things himself, rather inspires others to accomplish possibly even greater deeds. In that perspective, Dr.Ambedkar and Dr.Kalam score really high.
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