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Updated: July 31, 2013 10:46 IST

A State that must fulfil a higher purpose

R. Uma Maheshwari
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The creation of Telangana will have meaning only if it creates a new language of inclusive politics, or else it will merely amount to another demarcation on the map

While creating a State called Telangana, the demand for which was first articulated and fought for half-a-century ago, has been smoother this time round compared to the botched attempt in 2009, it will be more difficult to construct or re-construct a new idiom in this new State. It will mean deconstructing the hitherto known and practised idioms of power, politics and the general socio-cultural ethos.

Idea of India

But that apart, some other issues come to mind in the context of ‘separate state’ movements anywhere in the country. The foremost is why there is such a sense of sanctity about the idea of India as we have come to accept today, if there is a universal idea of India? Or, to put it differently, is India merely about the number of States we have today, most of which were ‘made’ after independence along linguistic lines? Has the linguistic paradigm (with the language itself a more sanctified standardised version of the more dominant social groups) served well all the people in that state? When people talk about Telangana, what are they “relating to”? What are the metaphors that have been used for the region in the discourse on Telangana in the last two years? What suggestions do people make when they critique the idea of Telangana as a State, and what is the validity of these suggestions vis-à-vis the Indian nation as we have come to accept or assume or ‘get along’ with?

In 2009-10, a series of television programmes on the Telangana statehood question was organised and telecast by the Telugu channel, HMTV. The format was an outdoor, popular debate platform across Telangana, coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema regions of Andhra Pradesh. It was also touted as the longest running live debates telecast on any television channel in Asia. The metaphors that people used — across regions — were fascinating from a sociological and historical perspective. It led one to wonder what it is that people identify with — a region, a regional culture, an administrative entity, or an abstraction at its best, called State? One never hears of patriotism to a State as one does to a nation or an idea of a nation. So it was interesting to see words of patriotism and jingoism about the Telugu State, Andhra Rashtram and a mother image of Telugu, the language, and a universalised language at that.

Most often, people spoke of “divorce” (vidaakulu), and fights between “brothers”. In Telangana as well as other regions, the question asked in every debate was why when a wife wishes for a divorce, should she not be given it? Why force her to live with an exploitative husband? The wife was always Telangana while Coastal Andhra always got the exploitative husband image. But this was just one of the many metaphors. In one debate after the other, what became apparent was the way people related to the idea of a region, and how they articulated it politically. Sometimes, it laid bare the paradox of it all. For, if people evoked a history of a region in terms of its culture, language, customs, (bhasa, yasa), festivals, even histories of dynasties (Kakatiya, Nizam) in a pre-modern sense of the term, they looked for its resolution in the post-independence category of a State in a democratic (necessarily democratic, for there were never any other possibilities expressed other than elections, Bill in Parliament, etc.) way.

Hence, what is a State? And where does the idea of a region encompass the idea of an ‘evolution’ or metamorphosis into a state? But there were also other aspects — that of Telangana having been a State on its own before it was forced to be merged into the Andhra Pradesh we know of, since 1956. Where these views were expressed — and they have been expressed most often in political and intellectual circles — the idea of the history of a place seemed filled with yet another kind of paradox. For, which history do the people invoke and how far back in time does it go? In this sense, is it the history of the Nizam, and the Nizam’s Dominions or is it farther back in time during the several chiefdoms and monarchies the region saw? Then, where does the history of Telangana begin and what does it encompass?

Deeper questions

These were my thoughts as I observed the movement. But there are even deeper questions, which go beyond mere Telangana statehood and could be seen as significant markers for other regions that have been articulating a demand for statehood, including in the north-east and elsewhere. The movement that became political articulation for a state started not with the idea of a politico-physical entity, that is State (with a capital S), but a historico-cultural, and very much located, rooted region. Wherever these demands have been made, the metaphors of resistance have close resonance to the idea of fighting against colonisation and domination of a people and culture that became marginalised. In Andhra Pradesh, the increasingly standardised Telugu-ness built over a period, post-Andhra 1960s, was no less responsible for Telangana people feeling marginalised.

Telugu cinema, All India Radio programmes (the radio plays, or even the programme called Paadi Pantalu with an overtly Rayalaseema tone to the conversations between a Peddiah, and a Chinamma) in Hyderabad, theatre, music and other platforms overplayed the standard dominant Telugu-ness, marginalising not just the Telangana language — it was usually referred to as a ‘mere dialect’ — or culture, but even agrarian systems. A water-intensive and paddy-cotton-focussed agrarian rhythm replaced dryland, rain-fed non-paddy agriculture. Food culture too changed drastically over a long period of this domination of one region (or two) over the other. The regions in question being coastal Andhra, specifically, with its water-based history and culture, and its industrial and outward looking history (since colonial times) and later Rayalaseema (with a primary upper caste group becoming predominant and holding power in successive governments). In the case of Telangana, there was a perceived feeling of a people’s cultural ethos — even though the people belonged to different castes and communities. There was an overarching Telangana identity they invoked, which lay in many such marginalisations —food culture, language, and an unequal economic development compounded the problem.

Will the creation of Telangana stall the Polavaram dam, which is obviously heavily tilted towards provision of water for industry and development in the coastal corridor of A.P.? Nearly 80 per cent of the submergence happens to be in the Telangana region (in Khammam district). Will the new Telangana state be about re-imagining a State far more inclusive than Andhra Pradesh state has been, in development of rural areas outside Hyderabad? Will it give the Dalits and tribal communities far more representation in constructing this new State? Will it revert to the agrarian regime that was indigenous to it? And bring to the mainstream the food culture that has now become a mere fad (jonna rotti, etc.)? And, at the same time, will it allow for diversity to be its mainstay rather than a monolithic universal economic ethic?

In the larger scheme of things, when states are created, they do not necessarily translate into representation and acknowledgment of pluralistic traditions. Will Telangana show the way for a pluralistic context instead of an overarching dominant caste and class based polity? If it is the latter, it will be far more difficult to construct a new idiom for this State, and it might just become another physico-political entity. Another number in our federal structure, another demarcation on our map of India.

(The writer is an independent journalist based in Hyderabad, awaiting publication of her book, When Godavari Comes: People’s History of a River)

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The question is not about small state or big state or in how many pieces or states that India should be divided. The point is about rampant CORRUPTION that is prevalent in India. Until and unless the demon of corruption is rooted out no development would take place and politicians would make people to fight among themselves. The time will come when India would be in a position that it was during the British, divided into 525 states,kingdoms, divisions and regions and no SARDAR PATEL would come to unite India. So it is the time to AWAKE AND ARISE and throw the demon of CORRUPTION until it is too late to do so.People are forgetting that we are INDIANS first and others later.

from:  D.V.V.S. Murthy
Posted on: Aug 1, 2013 at 15:03 IST

The only thing I want to specify is that the grief felt due to insulting
ur slang of language and treating all telangana people as their
slavea is clearly experienced. Regarding hyderabad.. even in their
words they feel they have only developed hyderabad its absolutely
false. Many of native people of telangana very forced to addicted to
liquor and bribe. No one ever forget the utilisation and exploitation
of andhra people. I feel pity for rayalaseema.. now their turn to get
exploited. Please dont look beyond some lakhs of years before live
at present. For me my culture is my mother as my nation is my
mother. I cant give someone to ill treat my people. Its not to hurt
anyone. But its fact.

from:  Tarun Kumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 23:45 IST

This is unfair separation. How can people of Telangana claim
Hyderabad? They have not invested a penny in current Hyderabad.

Why not try to put a CM from Telangana and see how much he can do? as
soon as he takes up the role as CM, he will stop talking separation.
They had plenty of such opportunities. Even CMs from Telangana could
not do much in their own regions, how can a separate state suddenly
bring jobs or development? In fact Telangana region is far more
developed than many Rayalaseema parts. Even SriKrishna Committee said

Only private industry can bring jobs, for which you need talent or
skilled resources. Skill is missing in the entire AP anyway. That's
why you see other states attracting large investments like auto
companies. Even swadesi Tata or HM did not pick AP, so forget it.
condition is hopeless.

Instead of focusing on improving private sector, leaders are fighting
among themselves. So unfortunate. Only Chandrababu tried hard to bring
Foreign investment.

from:  Prasad Mulukutla
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 23:41 IST

I think this is victory of voice of undevelopmental or politically backward section that
ignored or rulled by standarded section (state).With separation of telangana people of
like these societies will creat consciousness for their suffer or problems(language,
cultural,developmental, basic needs, economical etc.) Political anarchism is also a root
cause of separation.

from:  Chanchal Kumawat
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 23:15 IST

After prolonged struggle by Potti Sreeramulu, linguistic based
AndraPradesh was created. At that time no one was realizing what would
happened if Telangana integrated together, now we know that the region
is under developing in all activities. Telangana will become 29th state
from next year onwards, it may rely upon the centre for all options to
run the state .As soon as possible they have to stand on their own foot
and do not go back to earlier fate.

from:  Karthick Padmanaban
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 23:14 IST

I Dont know about all these culture and politics, But what i fear is, what happens if the natural resources of andhra pradesh (Bauxite of vizag,gas in godavari,iron sand of ongole, uranimum and other rare elements of rayalaseema) go into the hands of private organisations ? like reliance which is exporting petrol of KG basin ? . Its definitely a loss for people of telangana,rayalaseema,and seemaandhra and india.

from:  Mahesh
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 22:52 IST

The article is not so impressive that invites comments.But,smaller
part is easy to govern.That is why a State is divided into district
and a district into still smaller parts.A state may be carved out of
larger one on the basis of language,culture,backwardness or the
sentiments of the region.In a net shell,it will lead to better
administration and development of the region. Telangana emerges out of
sentiments of the people after 50 years of struggling.There is no harm
in it.The pride of Andharas is hurt due to their losing Hyderabad and
film industry.Every Andhra feels that Hyderabad is abode for their
happiness &enjoyment and only for that reason they oppose the creation
of Telangana.

from:  N Anantharaman
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 22:06 IST

The very fact that Telengana was a result of Congress vote bank politics, UPA must
have done it with several loopholes which will be damaging for both the states. After
wasting time for a decade, now UPA hurriedly did it in the model of Punjab and
Haryana with Chandigarh as common capital. Observing the abysmal track record of
UPA, we can just predict this will give rise to several problems and issues which the
new Govt have to face. For UPA the purpose is how to come back to power by hook
or by crook to continue with their corruption. The idea that BJP may take over the
reins in Delhi, is terrifying for Congress. BJP has already announced that once they
are in power, they will form a judicial commission to investigate the numerous scams
of UPA and the 'caged parrot' working of C.B.I, the closest ally of Congress.

from:  Bodan
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 19:53 IST

totally agree with Dr Varma. Unfortunately we are at crossroads where
the development has stalled for a long time. Now that a decision has
been taken (certainly because of politicking), Andhra and Telengana
should start going their way and try to construct something that will
bring glory to both the states. it is high time that people accept the
fact and move on. Agreed, this will only bring reduced interaction
with hyderabad from Andhra people going forward. Personally, I would
even like to see a new or an upgraded airport in andhra where I can
land from US. Everyone says brothers but we will start looking at the
other side of the character going forward. that is the worry.
Chidambaram has been successful in dividing a state. How far can he
succeed in the future to nab projects from these two states needs to
be seen.

from:  Srikanth
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 19:52 IST

Congress nod for Telangana only for it's political benefits. There is no
use for this people with dividing Andhra pradesh. Telangana is more
developed compared to other regions in AP. It is benefitical to corrupt
politicians and etc., At least, hyderabad should be keep separate either
as a union territory or separate state. Otherwise, there is no assurance
for the security for the settlers. People will teach the lesson to
Congress and other parties which are using this for their political

from:  Murali
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 19:02 IST

People’s wishes are important. But equally or perhaps even more
important is long term political stability, and financial viability of
the new States, like Telangana.
Ideally, financial viability of smaller States like Telangana should
have been examined by a new State Reorganization Commission (SRC) from
the point of view their revenue generation potential, expenditure and
size of their bureaucracy and their governments likely dependence on
the Central government for grants. But this has not happened.
Demands for division of States like Uttar Pradesh and Maharashtra
would henceforth have to be dealt with in case both the houses of
Parliament pass a bill for creation of separate State of Telangana.
Citizens expect that all political parties (a) approve formation of
new SRC and (b) implement the SRC’s recommendations and (c) avoid
violent protests for demands of new States.

from:  Narendra M Apte
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 18:45 IST

It is not that much easy as said. More than half of state's revenue is coming from Hyderabad only. Now after the division from where the ANDHRA people will get money for developmental works? And what about industries? No big industry is there in this area. Further in next ten years who will get the revenue from Hyderabad. The centre must ensure the following things:
1. An amount of Rs. Five to seven lakh crore rupees to construct a new capital. (Vizag. Guntur-Vijayawada or Kurnool)
2. A pucca guarantee from centre ensuring proper release of Krishna and Godavari waters to coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema.
3. Same is the case with coal supply from Telangana coal mines.
4. A separate railway zone with Visakhapatnam, Vijayawada, Guntur and Guntakal divisions. Guntakal division should be extended up to Hindupur.
5. A new IIT in ANDHRA and Rayalaseema should be setup.
6. Like the same all industrial branches should be setup in this region also.

from:  Kishore
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 18:25 IST

It is not understood what umamaheswari is talking about. The husband and wife, divorce etc.If it is so,Punjab,Assam,J&K everybody would have taken a divorce from India by now.But, it is not as simple as that.It is rather the hard work, entrepreneurship and investments of the husband which is being stolen by this so called wife. As regards the cultural dominance will maheswri speaks the language of some less educated or any other person who is considered socially backward. But, if the other person considers the adaptation of other culture as advantageous, definitely he will adopt it. This happens every where. when we adopt western culture, language, food etc. it is the same mechanism which works.The current decision is purely political and the same tactic adopted by British to control India.DIVIDE and RULE. People like maheswari will always be there at those times as well as now to show positive meaning to such acts.

from:  prasad
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 18:09 IST

It is disheartening to witness how the present generation politicians are abusing the freedom of expression for personal gains and to settle scores. The distortion started in AP with the initiative of Late YSR thro' AAKARSH - a project to weaken opposition and consolidate his army. In Telangana region, KCR ignited sentiments and emotions among youth and employees and his movement virtually destroyed the economy of the region for years together.Employment opportunities and investment projects got diminished. With the decision to divide the state, we are going back by more than a decade. However it could not convince the centre at all. The most Pitiable part of the issue is that those leaders who could not survive in their own states are overviewing the separation process. Even God cannot save the Nation and Democracy.

from:  P.Krishna Dwaipayana
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 16:30 IST

Emergence or separation of any entity from the other articulates the very idea of 'right to freedom'. The case of Telangana is no different than this but except one thing that it may also represent the lack of cohesion and its formation is driven by the people who got a jerk of euphoria inertia from the idea of the separate state. but does the separate state really represent the people's aspiration or just a political stunt to distort the voting pattern in favor of some political entity?'The separate state syndrome' shouldn't ignite a spark in other parts of India and end up splitting the people indeed which will defeat the very idea and purpose of independence. Do we want independence from each other? sometimes i , with no offense of course, feel , should the definition of India in our constitution be revised from the 'The union of States' to Just 'India'?

from:  Nileshkumar P. Chavhan
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 16:18 IST

I am retired veternarian and am happy that the Telangana state is
going to be a reality.I would always reminisce with nostalgia all the
good old days during the Nizam's rule ,my love for pure Urdu though I
still enjoy speaking in Hyderabadi Urdu and ofcourse the Telangana
I just wonder whether all these will return with Telangana ?

from:  Dr.Raghavendra S.Acharya
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 15:46 IST

Many of the comments here are laughable at most. To say the new state will have poor people ruling themselves, all districts equally developing, corruption-free governance, etc...

The state is going to be ruled by a party which has created a history of sorts in the number of scams. Many of the new ruling class will be the same old guys who have ruled before.
The comments seem to indicate a Rama Rajya will be formed. Hilarious.

from:  REDDY
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 15:42 IST

It is without doubt that the industrious Andhra community has
contributed immensely in taking Hyderabad places. So their pain can be
felt when Hyderabad ceases to be part of their state some time down
the line. But this should be taken as an opportunity to prove their
entrepreneurial skills and perseverance, which took these largely
agrarian but prosperous people to sectors as diverse as IT, real
estate, film, media, manufacturing, pharmaceutical. It would be
incredible that they turn a Vizag or Vijayawada into a real big. It
would be beneficial for the country in the long run to have some more
developed cities, which offer immense opportunities for employment and
growth. On the other hand KSR has to ensure that Hyderabad must not go
the Kolkata way. He has to remember that many centers of power and
economic might have gone into oblivion just in a few decades only due
to archaic political vision. The gem of Hyderabad should not be made a
scapegoat for achieving minor political benefits

from:  Ravindra Agnihotri
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 15:19 IST

People who clamour for more states forget that all that it will also spawn an exponential increase in the number of corrupt politicians, legislators, cronies and others who will be a burden on the taxpayer. Come election time, these politicians will handle out sops to garner votes and not necessarily to usher in development. In my view, this partition if Andhra Pradesh has more to do with an electoral calculus than an economic calculation.

from:  V.Suresh
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 15:10 IST

Creation Of State Should not Based only on Demand or Politics Reasons. But It Should be based on the need of that local territory. Creation of New State should not Check only benefits of new state But it should also Consider the profit/loss of Old State. Identity of Old state Should not be separated(Like Hyderbad). Did Govt. Checked the impact of new state Creation on Country/old State/New State in Past, when they Created Uttrakhand,Jharkhand and Chattisgarh. What Special Happened in these State ?

from:  Praveen Kumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 14:53 IST

The socio-cultural reasons alluded by the author no doubt played an important role in the struggle for the state of Telangana, but it is worthwile noting that the primary reason was regional imbalance and skewed development priorities of successive governments, which led to the exclusion of all other cities apart from Hyderabad from the economic map of the combined state. If the leaders of the two new states do not learn the importance of equitable development even now, expect more demands for seperation of Rayalaseema, Uttarandhra and even Uttara Telangana districts.

from:  Siddhartha
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 14:45 IST

The Creation of Telangana might have created JOY in many people who
are sentimental about.One shall not forget that sentiments alone
serve long.Unfortunately, in India development is done around certain
areas.In Andhra Pradesh,development is done around Hyderabad.Warangal
an ideal place,connected very well by road and rail, just 130 km from
Hyderabad has no industry.Warangal is the place from where late Prime
minister Sri P V represented over 40 years.Till 1980's, Andhra
Pradesh was under misrule of Congress.Things started changing only
after Telugu Desam Government.People got the voice.Hate politics
started by Late Y S Rajasekhara Reddy in 1999 asking seperate state
through representation to Ms.Sonia Gandhi and resolution by AICC in
2001 are fresh foundations.Later by TRS Sri KCR.States shall not to
be divided on sentimental basis.Another Party which gave problem to
Congress is BJP.BJP says AKHANDA Bharath.But they are divisive
forces.They Need 'ANEKHA KHANDA'.BJPcan't win.

from:  Dr.Srinivasa Varma
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 14:16 IST

Lets now weigh the pros and cons of this decision:
1. Unique identity for the people and end of the so-called oppressive rule of the SA people.
3. They will get a completely developed capital in their hands.
1. Water sharing, resource sharing,power sharing etc.
2. Common capital - Hyderabad is a common capital - today KCR will say it belongs to everyone, tomorrow they will chase the SA guys from here - the fallout here will be huge
3. Security : The AP police did a very good job in containing maoist insurgency - now there are no plans/this will need to be worked out
4. There seems to be no capable CM is sight who can guide TG.
5. More politicians, more middlemen and possibly more corruption
6. Indian economy is already weak - who will fund the setting up of a new capital and from where
7. Various demands from other states will crop up.

See,cons outweigh the pros. Pure political decision without any homework

from:  Srikanth
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 14:13 IST

This is opening Pandora's box, that also because of political pressure and expediency rather than some real grassroots analysis. There is already demand for 10 different new states before central government, and many more are gearing up, this decision will give all kinds of parochial groups a reason to reinvigorate their demands and agitations. Post-indepence reorganization was done on the basis of linguistic identity, which was a good thing, but nowadays all the demands for new states are focused only on some narrow considerations and pseudo-identities. Union governments should expedite the ongoing process of decentralization and give more powers to local bodies and smaller units. Empowering local units is the way to remove regional imbalance, and not giving in to the demands of every fringe group and creating a new state every time someone burns public property or goes on a fast.Condition of new states point to this fact only.

from:  Sauveer
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 13:40 IST

I am still suffering from some questions like....

Can we really say that, equal economic development in Andhra pradesh may avoid this kind of situation ?
Can splitting this kind of states will effect the unity of our nation ?

from:  Prashant M. Padol
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 13:22 IST

Until and unless the new state Telangana creates an inclusive socio political environment, it's creation will not serve the purpose and it will be just another political entity in india. What we have to target is at the historic injustice that caused people of Telangana immense pain. The financial and political dominance of ryalsaema and coastal Andhra has to be broken. All the responsibility lies on the political class now.

from:  Prateek Tiwari
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:59 IST

Congrats to the people of Telangana. After decades of struggle they finally achieved it. It shows people's aspirations have a greater say in democracy. Now it is the duty of the People of Telangana to focus on developing their culture and identity. The focus should be more on the backwards districts then on the capital city. out of 10 districts Hyderabad is the only district that has developed in Education, Industry, Health care etc... unless the fruits of development reach the people of rural areas, The creation of a separate state will not make much difference.

from:  Navin
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:48 IST

The experience of other new states in India shows that statehood is not likely to be a simple panacea for regional inequality.

After statehood comes the hard task of choosing new political leaders, building new administrative structures, raising revenues, and negotiating with the central government

The unfortunate day seems to be not so far when "The Union of india" wouldn't be as justifiable as "The divided States of India".

from:  Karn
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:44 IST

Linguistic divide within a country never helps in development and growth of a country..

from:  Neha
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:43 IST

The experience of other new states in India shows that statehood is not likely to be a simple panacea for regional inequality.

After statehood comes the hard task of choosing new political leaders, building new administrative structures, raising revenues, and negotiating with the central government

Hope "The Union of india" doesn't eventually turn out to be "The divided States of India", some unfortunate day.

from:  Karn
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:37 IST

An interesting analysis of the idea of a State and how it played out in the specific case
of Telangana. However, too much is being expected out of the new state and and its
people. Whatever said and done, Telangana is very much a product of the same
civilisation and polity, that any other State or region in India is. To expect that
everything in the new State will have to be socially and politically perfect is setting
yourself up for disappointment and unfair to the people who will lead. When India
achieved independence, expectations were built so high that when reality dawned
there was despondence and inevitably cynicism took root.
The most important demand and achievement of Telangana state, was to give its
people the dignity and space for their identity. Telangana cannot have separate
economic model of its own, does not have a different social structure of its own.
Things cannot be drastically different here as we all live in the same country and
share the same destiny.

from:  Vipul Kulkarni
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:27 IST

To serve the masses, shall be the sole purpose of the state, no matter
if it is new or the existing one. Creation of Telangana from AP by
making it a 29th state in India is historic. Few parliamentary process
are pending to make this realize. It is interesting to see in future,
how the people of Telangana will be served by its new govt.
Telangana state, now needs to aid the people with proper
infrastructure for marginalized sections, empower them to enter the
main stream and start contributing. More representations from the
dalits & tribal communities to state assemblies and parliament.
Culture which had been neglected till now, must enter the mainstream
and prosper. Collabrating with its new neighbours, sharing its new
borders, faciltiating cross border trade & practices, reorganising
govt institutions with the changed requirements to meet the people
needs etc, are matters of concern.
Others, GJM etc, demanding new states, need for greater political
support from centre seems evident.

from:  Hareesh Kumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:25 IST

Have been reading all the articles and comments patiently..!!
I did not find any proper benefit of separation. Could someone share a report/link saying these are the reasons for division, these are the expected problems of division and these are the proposed solutions..???

from:  Sridevi
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:12 IST

The article makes an interesting reading as it gives a perspective different from the mundane. Carving out a separate state for Telangana is not going to be a solution to the problems perceived by the separatists. On the other hand they may increase. There are several people even outside this bracket who are suffering exploitation and deprivation. It is also true that several people within this bracket are in a highly enviable position, what with their social status, wealth and quality of life. So the problems/ exploitation persist across the state and sincere steps would be required to resolve them. It is not happening to the desired extent because there is lack of sincerity in the leaders. As long as elections are fought with money power and corruption is so rampant, things cannot improve at the grass roots level. Populist schemes, which just scratch the surface, are only to fool the people and exploit their ignorance while the basic issues are left inadequately addressed.

from:  P.V.L. Narasimham
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 12:03 IST

It's immaterial whether the state is divided or stay united. For
common people from both the Andhra and Telangana who are living in
rural areas it's status. It's the so called leaders from both side
who are going to make money in the name of creating infrastructure.
KCR and many other so called intelligent people supported him to
demerge the Telangana from AP has set up his own party's Head Quater
in posh Banjara Hills whereas he represents the people from most
backward region of Telangana. Unfortunately media seems to have not
highlighted the fact who prevented them from them from developing
their own region which they now claim is most backward etc.

from:  Nagarajan
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 11:58 IST

Total agreement with the author is desirable in saying that "The
creation of Telangana will have meaning only if it creates a new
language of inclusive politics, or else it will merely amount to
another demarcation on the map". Creating the state "Telangana" is not
an achievement people are looking for, it is the mobilization of every
individual in the state which is the ultimate goal. Again it all
depends on the people to elect honest and good leaders in the state
and consequently make use of the decision made. So its the mindset of
the people which will make the decision a good example or a bad
example for the future makings.

from:  Raja
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 11:57 IST

Once again we are close to proving that India is an indestructible
union of destructible states. Decision of Congress committee to
further divide the first state created on linguistic lines will now
fuel up the spurring demand for creation of more such smaller units
viz. Gorkhaland , Bodoland , Tulunadu etc . Such demands needs to
evaluated by an independent commission and shall not be motivated by
political benefits as this would only lead to balkanisation of Indian
union and in future could prove to be a danger to our indestructible

from:  Mridul Singh Kachawa
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 11:52 IST

A good analytical article. But the so called socio-linguistic-cultural differences on their own cannot substantiate the cause for a separate state. As history tells it, it was the rich and mighty that had major say on the land, people, language or culture. So the people in Godavari and Krishna districts have had their say. The standard Telugu is more close to the language spoken in these areas. But other region people never made an issue out of it.
But when individuals with ulterior motives enter, these factors can come handy.
A separate State for a dialect is ridiculous and division is not the answer to address lack of development.
The Government wants us to be frugal. Does it have the resources to build another capital from scratch. A fraction of this money can be used to address the development issues.
Gone are the statesmen. The political arena is left with greedy individuals with enormous power and who cannot and do not want to look beyond their family. A frightening sight!

from:  Vardhaman
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 11:47 IST

We, the indians could not be united since centuries, that is what pave a path to islam invaders and british colonisation....
This bifurcation had proved once again that "our mindset will never change".....let congress play dirty vote bank politics till "United states of India"with 100 states...and let them give fruits of democracy

from:  Ramakrishna
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 11:30 IST

Sad to see bifurcation of AP.Lot of complexities are yet to be addressed which may rise hated among the states.It is very evident that all parties have asserted to vote bank politics, with BJP trying to increase its strength in Telangana and Congress trying not to loose its foot. Bifurcation of states will not address the problems Tenagana is facing. People must look deep into the functionality of society. With majority of BPL and poor people in Telangana addicted to alcoholism families are bound to poverty with their major share of income flowing into their vices. With no strong leadership in Telangana and politicians scattred across all the parties it will just lead to a rat race for power and money.

from:  Dilip M
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:57 IST

I think whole point of together India is to have one secular country . Why to act fake in the world that unity in diversity when we cannot handle each other . I think few years down the line we will be europe united but divided by languages

from:  Sonali Shende
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:54 IST

Author correctly points out that the success of statehood depends on the
devolution of power to the every strata of the people and maintaining
the plurality of the culture. The demands can only be fulfilled with
political power at the grassroots and space for public opinion in
decision making.
If the fruits of statehood remains only to the few privileged
people,then the idea of prolonged stuggle for the seperate statehood
within the independent republic will be a fiasco.

from:  Mithila
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:27 IST

Now, humanbeing changed to lead their life individually. Relations are breaking, communication is breaking , these situations showing it is better for humans to change again into monkeys where we came from, to build our relations strong.

from:  Bhanuprakash
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:20 IST

This unveiling of separate statehood passing wrong signal to the country that after doing violent agitation and damage country property now and then, wrong people can make things happen for themselves.

from:  Vineet
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:15 IST

A good article and a nice analysis. The congress, provoked by the BJP seem to have bitten the bullet in haste - there can be two effects of this : 1. There are really good TG leaders who are capable of driving the state and Hyderabad forward - thus this decision will become a historic success. 2. The administration just collapses and only political gain becomes the factor - the decision just flounders and boomerangs on the congress. But above all, there seems to be no plan in place other than political seat sharing - this is the height of idiocy. How can they just go by TRS's stand? And now they come out and say that they will set up a committee to decide on all finer aspects - this is stupidity. Even for a small thing as a company transferring its employees, the company does the spade work, brings out the reason for the same in clear terms and then decides - this shows congress in very poor light. Going by the names doing the rounds for TG CM, I feel that the decision is a blunder.

from:  Srikanth
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:13 IST

"Where there is humanity there is no need for patriotism"

from:  Sumanth Kumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 10:09 IST

overall not good for Indian values
as day by day division on basis of language , religion
its a election lolly pop i must say

but overall a heart breaking news for those who dreams of a United and happy India

from:  Nikhil
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 09:44 IST

The author has wonderfully captured the "narrative" used in the public debate. I do agree with the change in the cultivation patterns which have become more water-intensive in a dry land rain-fed area. For example, the distribution of crops between a few acres of rice, which is water-intensive, and which usually met the food grain requirements of the family, and the majority of the land in which other crops like ground nut, pesarlu (moong), kandulu (chana dal) and even jonnalu (sorghum) in several mandals of Warangal, has been replaced with water-intenseve crops. A side effect of this process is the depletion of ground water by digging of borewells.

from:  Rajdeep
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 09:32 IST

Creation of Telangana State will serve the interests of political
class only. The movement has been cleverly camouflaged as people's
sentiments but in fact it is the clamor for power among politicians.
Andhra Pradesh was ruled mostly by politicians from Seem-Andhra
regions who have lot of political clout. Telangana leaders although
occupied the post of Chief Ministers were mere dummies. Best example
is the power wielded by the late CM YSR over the state as well as the
Congress High Command.No politicians from Telangana can match this. It
is therefore not surprising that the movement gained momentum only
after the death of YSR. Now that TELANGANA is a reality,people
celebrating the achievement must also realize that nothing is going to
change overnight.With the Telangana assembly strength of 119 ,a 60
member group can form the Govt. Half of them will be ministers and the
rest will get other plum posts, all at the cost of public exchequer.
Common man will get nothing.

from:  B.Krishnakumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 09:23 IST

a thought provoking article......

from:  Ramana
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 08:55 IST

A really nice piece this is. Statehood demands have different reasons for different sections of people. It is interesting to see the reasons listed out in this article. There is a high possibility of economic success for both Telengana and Seemandhra, but when it comes to a cultural and political identity unique to each of them - only skepticism prevails.

from:  Muthu
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 08:43 IST

It's very nice!! India wants independence from other countries, states
want independence from other states, regions want independence from
other regions etc. What's going on??? Who wants to be united then???

I hope it is the individual who wants to be united with himself, for
there is no division further!!

from:  Sumanth Kumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 07:20 IST

Congress placed party interests and gains above regional and national
interests. Telangana is announced by Congress only for political gains
in 2014 elections.

from:  Rama Raju
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 06:10 IST

Writer gave the debate to all together a new dimension, diving in to the sociology behind how a citizen views his regional identity. Looking at a state more than an administrative unit & as socio-cultural entity. The only question remains where does this stop? There will be people discovering Vidarbhness, Saurashtraness,Bodolandism & Gorkhalandism soon.

from:  Rahman
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 06:03 IST

The creation of another state in the Indian context only means more conflict with its
neighbours and greater suffering for the people. Sadly we have not learnt this lesson even
six decades after Independence. The world has changed a lot. East and West Germany
have united as one nation. Even the nations of Europe who have been at war with one
another for centuries are coming together under a common union and currency. What has
been achieved by dividing the Madras Presidency into Tamil Nadu, Karnataka, Andhra etc?
No doubt we have created more politicians and ministries to govern the same area. It would
have been far easier to resolve disputes such as Cauvery and Mullaiperiyar had we not
plunged into emotion laden linguistic divisions of states. Now we are going a step further
with our genius and creating states with the same language. Soon south India alone will
have more states and union territories than the entire continent of Australia. When will this
madness end?

from:  Viswanath
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 04:40 IST

Very good article. I do empathize with the feeling of people in the Telangana region. I doubt the conspiracy theory in neglecting Telangana or intentionally pushing Telangana backward by the Coastal Andhra or Rayalaseema regions. It is the state of political
affairs in the country. They just did not care about any region as such but simply their next term and a swiss bank account.
There were atleast 40% of elected members of state legislative assembly and loksabha from the Telangana region. The leaders from
Telangana did not push for growth and development of the Telangana region but used the Telangana issue for their political gains. They were in power for some time in the state. Why did they not
do anything for the people of Telangana. This does not discount the fact that the people are suffering. They are suffering in all the areas including Telangana. But Telangana had the unique opp of this separation argument to solve their issue. But others don't.
Politicians cashed the argument

from:  Ramakrish
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 03:54 IST

A thought provoking article.

from:  Jagadisan Shivakumar
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 03:18 IST

Telangana is the best case/opportunity in Indian history to evolve into a pluralistic soceity. The structure of the polity after the State is created and the first elections it has would give an indication. To make a forthright comment, i would say the TRS and any other political party formed as part of this agitation should not merge with the sycophants but instead create an identity for themselves. From the numerous groups that were part of the agitation (mostly not the top 3 forward castes of the region), we do get a hope of a future pluralistic soceity if only all of these groups can coagulate into a meaningful polity that can make a difference. For it to happen they would need a formidable leader and hope they would find one who can see the big picture and has ability to keep the big fellas at bay.

from:  Jagan Chemicala
Posted on: Jul 31, 2013 at 03:10 IST
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