An interview with N. Ram, former Editor-in-Chief of The Hindu
What is it that you learnt at Columbia that helped shape your journalism?
I went to Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism in 1967 and took an M.S. in Comparative Journalism, with honours, in 1968. This was a totally new experience for me — because in India, as in Britain, the conventional wisdom at that time was that journalism was not something to be ‘studied' in a classroom, it was to be ‘picked up' on the job.
But Columbia changed everything for me as a 22-year-old start-up reporter. The M.S. course was demanding in terms of pace, having you on the go all the time, chasing stories through the week to tough deadlines, few breaks, then the pace and pressure became quite easy to handle. In terms of content, it was interesting enough, although some academics considered the content superficial, a ‘trade school': reporting, writing, editing, a bit of radio and television journalism for me, learning something about the history of American journalism, media law and society, the First Amendment, investigative reporting, a smattering of communication theory...You also did a dissertation: mine was, believe it or not, ‘Does the English language have a future in India?' My investigative reporting project was on the chequered story of ‘bleeding Madras' in the United States in the 1960s: I think I titled it ‘The rise and fall of an alien fabric'.
The Columbia course emphasised values and professional and ethical principles for journalism. You see, there is a cynical way of approaching journalism. It features the hard-drinking, ruthless, unscrupulous journalist who will stop at nothing, who grins when you talk about the principles of journalism, to whom deceit, superficiality, and dilettantism are second nature, the herd mentality that is wonderfully caricatured in Evelyn Waugh's Scoop, and so on. At Columbia, certainly at the time, you were tutored, in the belief that journalism was something of a higher calling, built on values and principles and a disciplined pursuit of truth as well as of the public interest. You were taught to investigate in a factual, tough-minded way, verify everything, take nothing for granted. You were encouraged to strike a balance between practising media freedom and social responsibility. This somewhat high-minded, idealistic approach made a lasting impression on me. By the way, I am on the Board of Visitors of the Columbia J-School and am very pleased that, while a great many things have changed since 1967-68, the same, somewhat high-minded, approach endures.
We had some splendid — wise and inspiring — teachers: for me Professors Larry Pinkham, who influenced me personally with his progressive, pro-people beliefs and approach at Columbia and whom we were able to pull out of retirement and bring to Chennai to shape the Asian College of Journalism nearly a decade ago, and Fred Friendly, a brilliant, larger-than-life comrade of Ed Murrow, the iconic television journalist, were special. I also had some talented, generous-spirited classmates, close friends with whom I have been able to keep in touch till today — Wayne Barrett, a great investigative reporter, Robin Reisig, a wonderful journalism teacher, Josh Friedman, who won a Pulitzer Prize for international reporting in 1985, I could name some others as well.
Most important of all, 1967-68 was a great time to be at Columbia, in New York, in the United States of America. The anti-Vietnam War mass upsurge; and the ‘Black Power' movement — these were heady, powerful influences, my eyes were opened, and I was radicalised — for life, I am pleased to say. For many of us, the spirit of the times, the overwhelming uplifting feeling, is captured in these lines of Wordsworth, recalling the ‘commencement' of the French Revolution: Bliss was it in that dawn to be alive/But to be young was very heaven! — Oh! Times… There is no need to say more, as this chapter in contemporary world history is well known.
How difficult or challenging was the Bofors story?
Challenging, obviously, but in an energising, ‘in-the-zone' way most of the time after the first year of investigation, 1987.
The investigation went on for more than two years and we published our Bofors stories in several instalments. The ruling party, the Congress, smelt a conspiracy, a plot, and many of its senior functionaries often reacted in a jumpy and highly insecure, if not paranoid, fashion. For us, it was decidedly a team effort, with many people, notably Chitra Subramaniam, Manoj Joshi, Malini Parthasarathy, and V.K. Ramachandran, making good, solid contributions that helped put various pieces of the puzzle together. Swedish Public Radio fired the opening shot in April 1987, alleging kickbacks and hinting at names before switching off; other newspapers, notably The Indian Express, were competing actively to get at the truth. Arun Shourie, a formidable journalist, and Ram Jethmalani, the ace criminal lawyer with his many interrogative questions hurled at Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi, were in hot pursuit.
I think what worked for us at The Hindu was a methodical approach, an investigative discipline, a way of journalism that was factual, persistent, patient — and fair and just. We relied almost exclusively on documents, more documents, hundreds of documents, in fact, all of them laid out across pages and published in facsimile form in The Hindu (in the pre-digital age). We played the devil's advocate on key story angles, verifying every detail.
I remember one occasion when we had made a significant factual error, misconstruing something Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi had said in a closed meeting. We immediately published a correction, with an apology, on the front page and some people outside our newspaper believed the prominence given to the correction and apology was quite unnecessary. But we highly valued our credibility, our reputation, the trust readers placed in us. We believed in fairness and justice and scrupulously avoided throwing dirt on people against whom there was nothing like evidence (Amitabh Bachchan, famously). We did not practise anything that would be recognised as deceit in this era of hidden mikes and spy cameras. We had our own data security methods, which, surprisingly, worked. We got lucky, repeatedly, with our sources.
Our team was bold and confident in linking pieces of evidence, in establishing factual ‘concordances', in making inferences from sensitive and complex data. Thus, we were able to offer this assessment in a prominent story in The Hindu of October 9, 1989, which the Columbia J-School has chosen to highlight in its centennial ‘50 Great Stories' site (http://centennial.journalism.columbia.
edu/1989-scandal-in-india/): “If the whole interaction from June 1987 between Bofors and the Government of India can be understood by the public in terms of a ‘fixed' football match in which all the goals scored against India have been ‘own' or ‘self' goals (scored into the Indian goal by Indian boots or heads), it is now established that the Swedish official referee, Mr. Ingvar Carlsson, has been an accomplice in the ‘fixing' of the game.”
At times, it seemed to be an unsolvable puzzle. After a full year's slog, we made a breakthrough in April 1988 when Chitra Subramaniam struck gold with a privileged, authoritative source (whom I met and checked out) and who never let us down. And then we were on a roll, you might say.
I did most of the writing through our Bofors investigation, many thousands of words, but others contributed handsomely as well. We had our internal differences, which did turn dramatic in 1989, but what stands out today for me is how well everyone on our team, from the Editor down, pulled together to shape an unforgettable experience. And it was not as though this was the first or last investigative effort by our 133-year-old newspaper!
Analytically, I have proposed in several articles, the Bofors-India kickback affair can be understood in terms of five modes of action. The first was the decision-making on the choice of howitzer. The second comprised the arrangements for the payoffs. The third was the prolonged cover-up and crisis management. The fourth was the journalistic investigation and expose. The fifth was the CBI's criminal investigation, assisted by the Swiss Federal Police and the Swiss courts, and prosecution before a Special Court for CBI cases.
What came of it all?
This is a legitimate question we have been asked. Some of the key accused died before the matter came up in court. Others, including Ottavio Quattrocchi, got away from the law. There was also the challenge of reconciling, or rather bridging the gap between, standards of evidence in journalism and under the Indian Evidence Act. But Bofors became a byword for top-level, political corruption, even entering the vocabulary of some Indian languages as a synonym for sleaze and skulduggery. Bofors, I believe, was a game-changer, politically and for Indian journalism. I won't say more, except that it was eminently worth it.
Keywords: Columbia University, N. Ram, Bofors scandal, 50 Great Stories



Sir , Bofors case is well investigated.It is worth reading .May I ask what we gained out of it.Big Zero. No body sent to jail.Same party is in power.It was a matter of 4% commision. That is peanuts , as per present time. Now big amount goes under the table. If you consider the loss. As VP Singh black listed Bofors .We could not make spares and Ammo. The same was bought at big price from South Africa & Israel. Our almost half Guns are useless.
Mr.Ram at the age of 75 Wall street movement inspired my spirit and I visited USA and watch a great change ignite the common people to fight against corporations.There are millions of progressive Americans who haven't given up in the first for just and sustainable future.They don't trust the corporate media.Many progressive media is working like Hindu.They want a change for the common good. An American School teacher write in his mail...the following......... "What would our founders say if they could see us now? Americans like to believe that the rest of the world looks up to us, but the truth is that the rest of the world is laughing at us. It may be very difficult for us to admit, but the reality is that America has become a nation of slobs. And I am not just talking about being overweight. Today, Americans are physical, mental, emotional, moral, financial and political slobs. We are addicted to entertainment, we are addicted to shopping, we are addicted to food, we are addicted to prescription drugs, and we are addicted to anything else that gives us the pleasure that we crave. We allow our televisions to do our thinking for us and our families are falling apart. Our lives center around pleasing ourselves, and we have become one of the most narcissistic societies in the history of the world. We are like a middle-aged man that has totally let himself go. You know the guy who shows up for an important event in sandals, sweatpants and a stained t-shirt? That is us. We are only a shadow of what we once were as a nation, and we desperately need to change course. So what is the solution? " Solution to stop war and looting oil.
Creative! Service above Self! Keep it up.
Well covered story... Best Wishes to Ram and their Team!
My respects to you and your team.
You made the country awake, you shown the true face of the so called politician, in fact you're the first one in the country to show this much courage in enough courage and your only motto "Truth should be known to people at any cost" should be highly praised. You are role model for all the so called journalists who works either for the political cause or for the page 3 parties!!!
A well started work is half finished, But the rest half never ended. It is pity, Ram and Hindu should continue to their investigation to bring out truth. Most journalists have political/opportunistic ally and their work is selective rather than universal.
We could not find the name of the person who had interviewed Sri.Ram. The experience of Mr.Ram at Columbia university is interesting to read right through.Whether it was a game changer both for Indian politics and journalism it revealed the writing capacity of the former editor-in- chief.No wonder he had brought out a full story of the great Indian writer R.K.Narayan,investigating the entire life of R.K.N,especially interesting early days of him at Purasaivakkam,chennai.His acquiring the front gate of No 1 vellala street,where R.K.N spent his boyhood days,is perhaps the effect of his learning.This interview read and re-read ought to recast the destiny of future budding journalists.We hope he come back as chief editor after some time.
Congratulations to The Hindu for this interview and for the courage to pursue the scandal. Mr. Ram said: "We highly valued our credibility, our reputation, the trust readers placed in us." I hope the Board of Directors will draw the attention of the marketing and advertising departments of the paper to this line. All Indian papers--and The Hindu is no exception--are under increasing pressure today from their advt departments to sing the tune of their advertisers. That is the surest way to lose credibility.
N Ram leaves unanswered the question of whose responsibility it was to bridge the gap between the 'standards of evidence in journalism and the Indian Evidence Act'. Perhaps we will have to wait till Quattrochi publishes his memoirs.
The interview with N.Ram was not only interesting but intellectually
stimulating to the readers of The Hindu. This interview can be
recommended to be included as a part of in the curricula of various
Schools and Branches of Journalism in Indian Universities.
Corruption is part of life. It has been since ages even in mythology. It should form part our school / college syllabus. This would help us understand it better. Presently topics like sex and corruption are considered a taboo in our younger age. We do not know how to handle sex and corruption when we grow up. Let us understand that sex and corruption are part of human physic. More we understand and open up to them and discuss, better we can handle them. Let us not suppress the urge for sex and corruption and hurt humanity.
It would be very nice, informative and helpful if The Hindu could publish the entire Bofors investigation as it appeared in the newspaper (in linear chronological order ), perhaps with side notes on the approach, inference and methodology used on each story by the respective journalists. It would surely make for compelling reading and would be a book of great academic value for all observers of Indian policy making!!
Indira declared Corruption as Global Phenomina. N.Ram and Hindu have achieved nothing by bringing BOFORS against Rajiv. At that time north Indians were with Rajiv and average Indian was blind supporter of Congress. The times were not in favour for any radical change in India.
I would put this way that "BOFORS" is a case where the corrupt got away due to spineless Indian justice system. How can anyone get away from law unless law was unlawful? This, an example for fractured Indian judiciary and failure of governance.
A very good story without any self-flattering by Shri N.Ram. I was
keenly following the Bofors stories as they were appearing in The Hindu
of those days. I still remember Rajiv Gandhi's sarcastic remarks about
The Hindu and its staff about these reports.
True the Bofors story was very well investigated. But one serious lacunae is that nothing could be proved against Rajiv Gandhi in the COurt though others seem to have been involved. The late veteran journalist Ajit Bhattacharjea who made a trip to Sweden on this matter had to return empty handed as he was told that all over the world, big armament manufacturers employ agents and this is necessary as quite a few technical details have to be furnished and negotiations usually are prolonged and Companies cannot have their own reps sitting for so long on one project. They did not agree with the Indian Govt's dictum that they will not deal with agents. The Swedish Govt therefore felt that there was nothing they could do in this matter.
While talking on The Hindu's stories on Bofors, N.Ram chose to highlight 'how well everyone in our team (The Hindu team) pulled together to shape an unforgettable experience' for him. Though he referred to 'the internal differences which did turn dramatic' then, he forgot the subjects (readers) of The Hindu kingdom who were not happy with the outcome of the said 'internal differences'. If I remember correct, the Management's assertion that it was its sole prerogative to decide on what is to be published and when is it to be discontinued etc. hit squarely on the readers' desire, interest, integrity and right to know from newspapers.
I have differed very vocally many times with the editorial position and opinions of Hindu on many matters, but I never shirk from saying to my friends that since I learnt the alphabet, I have been reading no other daily newspaper with the interest and respect I reserve for the Hindu.That is 40 years out of the 44 years I have been in this world. Kudos to the Hindu. It lives up as a key ingredient in the sense of pride we all hold in being citizens of a democratic country where pursuit of free thought is cherished from times immemorial.
Thats really a big thing if N.Ram Sir saying that i dnt want to tell
more on Boforse.......I don't want to tell more on it.We can understand
what the Govt. had done.
Nice Insight into those powerful days. N. Ram is a great journalist and Indian needs such dynamic people today. We are now facing a hundred bofors scandals every month. What can The Hindu do to expose these swindlers.
One can't resist from appreciating ' The HINDU' for following ethical journalism in unraveling these scams where were highly sensitive.
Essential reading for budding journalists and a credit to Columbia University. Congratulations.
Hats off to the journalistic excellence by Honourable N Ram and his
team on the Bofors expose. It has indeed left the nation proud and
laid a path to follow for all fellow scribes in this era calling for
such balanced coverage of issues.
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