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NHRC seeks report from DGP

K. Balchand
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Police Commissioner J.K. Tripathy (right) addressing the media in connection with bank robbery case in Chennai on Wednesday, the day before the killing of five suspects in the case. Photo: R. Ragu
Police Commissioner J.K. Tripathy (right) addressing the media in connection with bank robbery case in Chennai on Wednesday, the day before the killing of five suspects in the case. Photo: R. Ragu

Taking cognisance of the “encounter” deaths in Chennai in the early hours of Thursday of five persons, suspected to be behind two bank robberies, the National Human Rights Commission on Friday sought a report from the Tamil Nadu Director General of Police on the matter.

The NHRC also directed the District Magistrate and the Senior Superintendent of Police to investigate the incident. The three officers have been ordered to submit their response within eight weeks of the notice.

The Commission sought reports of the magisterial enquiry and post-mortem, besides an independent investigation report as per its guidelines.

NHRC always has the habit of keeping quiet when human rights are violated and entering the scene after official action. IN this case the robbers beseiged the bank officials, threatened them at gun point and huddled them in a room and locked them. This is human rights violation. Nobody has the right to lock up others. Where was the NHRC? When murderers kill people NHRC keeps its mouth shut. When police kill the murderers NHRC makes loud noise.

from:  M. Veerappan
Posted on: Feb 25, 2012 at 15:20 IST

Well, Sherlock Holmes by just looking at the scene of crime/encounter killing can prove that the Police are no heroes. The bank robbers were the hunted and were literally trapped inside the small flat with no exit. They were facing a Police team well aremed and who had the advantageous position in this situation. Would any sensible criminal then even dare to shoot in this situation? Are they not intelligent enough to know that surrendering would be the better option than shooting at the police and put their lives in grave danger? Are they so stupid as not to know that robbery is not a crime punishable by death if they are brought to trial? Most of the posts supporting this Police killing may be posted by the Police and their friends and families for all we know. Those hero worshipping youngsters who get their thrills through violent video games and action packed films where Police are the heroes may also be posting here in support of the killings.

from:  Ash
Posted on: Feb 25, 2012 at 15:01 IST

Once normal citizens indulge in criminal activities,they lose the rights applicable to common citizens.Hence NHRC shedding tears for criminals is unwarranted.

from:  sundar
Posted on: Feb 25, 2012 at 11:25 IST

I don't understand excessive use of force by Police. Based on newspaper reports, it seems like an excessive hand of Police to silence what? For one, the so-called robbers (they haven't stood a judicial trial yet) have exposed the negligence on the part of financial institutions that rush up to open branches without any proper security audit in place (that includes any regulatory body overlooking as well). Two, the police claim that the robbers had used toy guns. This statement could be fudged at any point in time to corroborate the fact that the Police recovered seven pistols. It is a shame to democracy that Police can walk free after committing such a crime. The only difference that I see is...the so-called robbers pointed gun at people and never killed any body while the Police did kill five persons and it is even more crazy to see law enforcement officials distorting "Truth".

from:  prasanna
Posted on: Feb 25, 2012 at 01:13 IST

If a burglar/murderer kills others, they will undergo trial. There is no human rights violation. However if police kills burglars, it is human rights violation. what strange rules? Also from when Hindu started doing investigative journalism? I've never seen such articles in Hindu.

from:  Rachen
Posted on: Feb 25, 2012 at 00:40 IST

Police cannot act as judge & jury. This shootout may have been all right if it had happened during a robbery. As it was, very unprofessional at best. More training of the police is in order. Any idiot can shoot to kill; it takes skill to arrest the suspects and bring them to trial.

from:  Sree Srinivasan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 23:51 IST

It is said the police traced the robbers from another video of a public sector bank premises with the shirt worn being the same found at the site of encounter. How come police knew before hand the person is one of the robbers. From all the accounts it appears to be staged encounter. May be or not the killed are robbers. Motive of the police appears to be to find a quickfix to the spate of bank robberies in the state or to prove their macho to the political bosses. It appears to be a similar case in Andhra Pradesh where in the police killed an young man in Warangal, who had stalked/harassed/ caused physical harm to a girl leading to to her death to teach a lesson to other such young men.

from:  najumuddin
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 22:34 IST

It was shocking for me to see those photos and the news this was carried out by Biharis. We must take sturn action to protect ourself, it makes no sense in regretting later.I was shocked to see those Hindi books, we need to make stricter enforcement to ensure such materials are not found in places such as velachery or soon these books might reach used book shops and everywhere and we will have to read these books soon.

from:  Vish
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 20:30 IST

sir, now the question is "where is loot?'have police able to trace the money.
again, when the murder kasab is enjoying the hospitality of the govt, i don't understand the burglers action of firing first(as reported). they should have surrendered and enjoyed the hospitality of all political opposition parties and the govt. the case also could have dragged to years before they could face the trial. who knows? they could have even escaped any punishment since the follow up is tedious and time consuming.
I think the police encounter is a short cut for all ills.

from:  v.sundaresan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 20:27 IST

Some readers have
congratulated the cold blooded murderers in uniform, citing a failed
judicial system. Are we in the wild west of the last century, where
the sheriff would prosecute, sentence and hang criminals? Are we so
desensitized that encounters are merely numbers? Are we so cruel that
human life means nothing to us? Would we say the same thing if a
friend or family member is killed that way? Would we then say.."serves
him right"?

What has happened to the Human psyche in India? Where are the values
of compassion, the rule of law, and the system of "reward and
punishment"?

If we have the courage, let us the constitution, scrap the Indian
penal code, write a new one, make public officials including cops
accountable. I see no difference between cops and criminals, whey they
shoot people in cold blood.

from:  Besharm bharat
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 20:25 IST

The correct time of the encounter is still not known to all including the police, there are contradicting information regarding the time of the encounter. The near
by occupants also contradicting the arrival of the police at the site and their version about the encounter time is different from the police. The most unbelievable fact is the nearby occupants including the owner of the building [where the suspected Bank robbers reported to have stayed] have not heared the gun battle and the surprising part is they came to know the incident only on the next day morning, could any body will believe it?
And the police version on the addresses of the reported robbers is also contradicted by the press. And yesterday [23-02-12] morning, the police reported that they recovered only 10 lakhs cash but in the evening the police contradicted it by saying 14 lakhs,but yesterday the NDTV reported that the TN police have recovered RS,30 lakhs. So the common man feels that some thing is fishy.

from:  V.Shanmuganathan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:50 IST

So these 5 men had robbed banks (which is insured) and stole 19+14 i.e. 33Lacs but
deserve to be killed without trial. Oh wait! where is Kani Mozhi? Kalmadi? Quattrochi?
Sukh Ram? Amar Singh? A. Raja? Maran brothers? Lalu Yadav? Yeddurapa? Reddy
brothers? nahhh.. nevermind ....Incredible India!!

from:  yajsingh
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:47 IST

I would say that is a brave step taken by our POLICE and the District
Magistrate should slap proper reports to NHRC as soon as possible as he
has the power and this will provide the final conclusion to the case.
Even the NHRC will get satisfied!!!
Eliminate these unwanted elements..that is only providing them freedom
from this cycle of KARMA and PHAL.. BENEFICIAL FOR THEM (who have become
tired of doing sins and want a new beginning) AND FOR US AS A SOCIETY
TOO!!

from:  Y.P.Baghel
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:36 IST

Law enforcements officers have always the option for self defence.They should use caution before drawing their weapon.

from:  kirubakaran
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:32 IST

Even when investigations are over the voice of human rights is heard.Human rights is for whom?only criminals enjoy human rights.There is nobody to voice for the affected people..

from:  K.Sugavanam
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:13 IST

It is pathetic that none of those who are opposing this encounter,
failed to understand the basic. These are engaged in student
brokerage, selling narcotics to students, student ravages, street
fights and above all robbing bankers, serially. They are weeds in
peace loving society and should be entitled for this kind of
curtailment. What will happen, if you produce before a court, he will
go on bail within one month and no body can trace them. If at all
getting punishment, which should never be more than 1 year. They will
come back in team after getting more technical training in jail and
develop their business. The action by police is much appreciated by
common public and those are not supporting are invited to take care of
those in jail and up keep them. Where is this NHRC gone when they
robbed the bank in day light threatening the life of more than a dozen
public?

from:  Ravi
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:11 IST

NHRC reacts quickly when 5 north indians were killed. Why this commission is not giving its voice when TN fishermen are attacked or brutally murdered by sri lankan navy.

from:  Karthi
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 19:02 IST

Encounter of robberers, arrest of terrorists. Action of NHRC or inaction of NHRC.supporting or not supporting,doesn't matter. Every situation/action be judged on circumstances, case to case. According to the printed media news,the burglars are opened the fire injuring,two of the police personnel.If there was no resistance,they might have arrested them.I think police personnel are provoked to shoot them because of their(burglars) attitude,injuring the inspectors.If this is the case nothing is wrong in their action

from:  K.P.RAO
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 18:44 IST

NHRC's intervention was an expected one. How was it possible to do
this encounter once the photo of a person was displayed in all
channels. There is some secret behind this encounter and the bank
robbery at IOB. The Police said that it was an encounter and two
inspectors were injured. Was the two inspectors sufficient to nab
these five men? The COP said that commandos were pressed in to this
service. But the COP did not touch the commandos in press news. What
the press reporters collected news should be published.But the police
prepared the news and gave it to Press. That is why uniform news in
all dailies. What was the necessity to keep all the residents indoors
from 10 pm to the encounter was over. Why the Police did not all Press
media to the spot at 10 am? Still the Police say these five are
suspected criminals but did not confirm that they did the robbery. Can
the suspected be shot dead as Police likes? Till all enquiries are
over no one should be transferred.

from:  N R Ravisankar
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 18:38 IST

In the NCTC notification Tamil Nadu wanted that the state should be consulted before a person is arrested for terrorist activities. However in the recent encounter killing the accused was not given a chance for a arrest. Only rarest of the rare should be given death as per SC guidelines. This is not followed in bothways.

from:  VSBALASUBRAMANIAN
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 18:23 IST

Pointing weapon against bank employees is also against Human Rights, which the robbers did. Had something gone wrong by triggering the weapons, there could have been fatalities in the bank. The gangsters overpowering the police is also against human rights. So what does NHRC say to this? Will they find the guilty gangsters and file a case against them? IMHO what police did would be right based on the situation that is said to have prevailed during the exercise.

from:  Prakash
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 18:18 IST

I suggest what police has done is correct but atleast one of the five should have been held alive for further investigation.

Police has done their duty and now NHRC is trying to do their Job.

from:  PS JEFFERSON ANTONY
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 18:13 IST

All the press, the police High Command told only to say that they have SUSPECTED in Bank robbery cases. What is the authenticated proof that they are involved definitely except that a cctv clipping shows, and the photo of the suspected person exhibited, etc. Such a large posse of police force right from the Commissioner of police, down to constables, got various wings, Crime, Intgelligence attached to each police station, It is a wonder, why atleast one nabbed, waiting at the door without alerting the so called suspects, in UNIFORM and gun on the police hand. Further, the residents near not contacted prior to police action, also to prove suspects used fire arms, etc. What is the anticidents, whether any criminal records to suspect. Huge money committed theft The Good history of the Tamilnadu police has been tornished.

from:  Angannan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:53 IST

Smells of "encounter". Police doesn't have authority to decide whether a person is guilty or innocent, or to pronounce sentence. Those who are suggesting police should be congratulated for causing the death of 5 Indians, must understand this is a dangerous road to travel. Any day some government can use this logic against anyone, while a Kasab will live in reasonable comfort at our cost.

from:  Vikram Prakash
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:49 IST

Nitesh Bharti's opening salvo is right on dot.

from:  Soundararajan Srinivasa
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:43 IST

Since they robbed the bank no one is personally affected. Though the money in the bank belongs to customers, they wont lose money in the robbery. If they are made to bear the loss then they will support police action. Only when it comes to one's head one will realise the gravity of the situation. Arm chair talking is easy.

from:  Muthu Karuppan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:38 IST

NHRC should not only take into account of Encounter Deaths but also today's alleged remark by a very senior most politician without power that YOU SHOULD..TERRORIZING bRAHMINS . { COURTESY ; Dinmalar and series of letters to editor in today's paper ] . I ask NHRC whether such speech amounts to INCITING COMMUNAL VIOLENCE AGAINST BRAHMINS. OR NOT?? In fact in today's TN , Karuna and his family members are real Brahmins ,occupying all posts ,previously in Government and now in DMK and terrorizing other party men who toiled hard for DMK . If this person is really bold .let him make comments about other caste groups in TN ?? But alas he dares not ! The repercussions will be a bad experience for him. eVEN IN 2-g SCAM ONLY RAJA [ BELONGING TO OPPRESSED CLASS IS IN JAIL SINCE ONE YEAR WHEREAS ALL OTHERS ARE OUT.]

from:  Prof.R.Krishnamurthy
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:37 IST

Nowadays terrorists are arrested, burglars are killed.This is a hasty and nasty action.They might have been arrested by taking some trickier actions and the rootcause for their robbing activities might have been found.

from:  pcokrider
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:36 IST

I always wonder why police just kill when it has an option to shoot in legs or at some spot which might severely injure but not kill. Even if they were robbers, they was not supposed to be hanged. By killing them police not only created suspicion on its working but also saved their masters.
Moreover the public reaction praising police is exactly what politicians wants. I guess they would have created pressure on police to "show results" and encounter is something police is expert in.
People just want to see results, no matter what.

from:  pradeep singh
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 17:16 IST


A couple of points ...

NHRC has no role to play in the investigation of killings in Sri Lanka as it's in Indian organization. In case of fishermen deaths, out MEA should act tough with Sri Lanka, not NHRC; it's not their job. To be clear, NHRC is supposed to take care of Indians in India, period.

Secondly, the punishment for Bank loot is not death penalty according to IPC; so in case the police killed these people in cold blood that's an excess and should be investigated.

from:  Kaushik
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:52 IST

Who is the culprit?
I just wonder as to who is the culprit the police or the so-called goondas...time will answer. Well, encounters are common in our country. There are some who support and some who oppose....but the thing that you and me should do is not to simply sit and comment but do something in our own capacity to rid the society of such "culprits" (emphasis added). We,the People, form them...

from:  Mathew
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:47 IST


The reason for encounter deaths is not convincing. It is crucial and important to investigate such actions. The truth must be established to show that TN is not following Gujarat or otherwise.

from:  A.RAJAMOHAN
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:45 IST

We always complain about the law and order crisis in our country and inactive police but when finaly police shows up the courage we make sure that they are punished for doing the right thing. How could we expect our police to work whole heartedly when we don't support efforts made by them. This is not the first time when encounters are being politicalised.. shame on our country

from:  Ayush
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:41 IST

Does NHRM issue any notice to the criminals ?
again, if any police personnel would have been killed in that
encounter what would have been the role of this NHRM to the deceased
cop and his family?
criminals must be treated as criminals. we can not afford to provide
them enough mechanism so that they can, in the long process of trial,
prove themselves innocent and again commit crime. if this be the way
then where is the need to catch them? by the way, they were the first
to open fire and in no mood to surrender. salute to those brave
officers.

from:  Rana
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:38 IST

So if i get this right
1) There are 5 men, not ordinary men, burglars of banks.
2) So they are anti social humans
3) TN police go to catch hold of them and are attacked by them
4) In retaliation TN Police open fire and kill them
5) NHRC notices TN Police for killing anti social elements who open fired the police

NHRC should be investigated!!!

from:  Dr Venkatarangan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:31 IST

Robbers should be given some chances to change their way of living. There is no right to take away lives of people from the earth by any others. If you have given gun's the usage should be limited at most.
@Vinay: Ramdev is alive so NHRC has nothing to worry urgently, but there are five human beings were taken from the country we should look at their wives, children's, brother's, sister's, father's, mother's, relatives and their states(Bihar, West Bengal) who are suffering. Of course NHRC will give notice as usual for such type of cases. We should find how much accountble the police are for this particular situations. I hate MAN holding a gun(without guns the crime rate or death will be reduced).

from:  prasad
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:32 IST

NHRC seems to be a strange creature. It has jumped into this case here
robbers who looted a few banks were killed in an oredinary policde
encounter. It is wrong to always think that the police are trigger
hapy and want to finish the suspects. In the circumstances of this
case, it will be the duty of Chennai public to come to the support
of the TN police. It may not be appropriate to quote that case in
this context. but several years back in what is known as Bhagalpur
blinding, the extreme step of gthe pollice was supported by the Bihar
public. TN police needs to be supported form this superfluous action.
I, at any rate, for one will support the TN police.

from:  s subramanyan
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:24 IST

This utter goondaism of TN police. Pathetic to see three young mens body on the front page. nothing can be in support of this action, the police man in question must be punished hardest.

from:  Sailendra
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:20 IST

Shame on NHRC trying to grab limelight by investigating the police who
should be applauded for killing armed criminals. What did NHRC do about
hundrends of fishermen killed by Sri Lankan Navy and a genocide happened
in Northern Sri Lanka under their very noses.

from:  Srini
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:18 IST

NHRC should realise the robbed of Rs 19 lakh and Rs 14 lakh on January 23 and February 21 respectively in daring daylight heist by armed men, sending shock waves. it will be strong message to the burglars all over INDIA

from:  Satyanarayan Behera
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:10 IST

Do you believe that 5 person come from Northern state to south and do serial bank robbery without any BIG BOSS ??? Is it possible that same kind of act can done in northern state by south Indian without any help of Local Big boss......NEVER.

Why police killed them even they can be arrested. They are simple robbers so I don't think police had to do hard work. If they alreday traced their location then why not go to the root.Something is wrong there. Where is Money ????

from:  Nitesh Bharti
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 16:09 IST

Two of those killed in encounter are still walking the earth in Bihar.

What a miracle!

from:  ajit
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 15:57 IST

Mr Vinay; that is a false equivalence fallacy. Baba Ramdev was not
killed. Until the police reveals the identity unambiguously, we cannot
brand a person criminal...it is too premature to do so.

from:  Sanjay Kumar K
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 15:24 IST

Thief’s and terrorist’s commit all sort of aristocracies & they enjoy their life behind the bars and at times come out with the loop holes that exists in our judicial system. Ajmal Kasab involved in Mumbai Terrorist attack has killed innocent civilians, today he is safe behind the bars the govt is spending crores and crores of money for his security. NHRC has not opened it’s mouth for the death of innocent civilians of the Mumbai Terrorist attack & the tax payers money is being wasted for providing security to terrorists.

from:  Balaji.K
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 14:36 IST

All said and done NHRC has to have an active participation on a day to day activities or they just eye wash like other Govt Agencies ?
Now to go about this inquiry, have the NHRC prepared a set of Questions that needs answers from the Police Department?
Am sure no ground work has been done, have they visited the spot to assess the ground realities?
IF they do not have satisfactory response from TN Police what action do they propose to go about ?
High time someone takes a concrete steps to ensure their is great deal of transparency in Police handling of such sensitive cases.
My gut feeling is there could be more to what meets the eye?
Was done to keep the Police Image in the limelight?

from:  venkat
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 14:34 IST

Fantastic, when rapists and murders are allowed trials, burglars are no exception. Why and who gave orders to open such excessive fire has to be throughly investigated. Banks, Jewellry shops and other financial institutions where cash is collected or stored in huge amounts must be given deadline to install security systems and investigation charges for any robbery occuring in such places where security systems are not in place must pay charges to the police for investigating crimes on account of this.

from:  xavier surender
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 14:17 IST

The UNHRC session will witness a resolution against Sri Lanka, which will cite the lack of progress on the promises it had made earlier on a political solution to the Tamils of the Northern Province, and also on make adverse comments on the complete absence of accountability and respect for human rights during the end stages of the war. The United States has made it clear that it will support a resolution of this nature. Canada, United Kingdom, and most of Europe, are likely to demand greater accountability for war crimes.

from:  raja
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 14:14 IST

When Baba Ramdev was forced out in Delhi, what was NHRC doing?
Politicizing criminals isn't good to anyone.

from:  Vinay
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 13:59 IST

Next time police should take NHRC along with them to such operations!

from:  Murali
Posted on: Feb 24, 2012 at 13:51 IST
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