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Updated: March 27, 2012 01:13 IST

MPs up in arms against Team Anna's remarks

Vinay Kumar
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Leader of the Opposition and BJP leader Sushma Swaraj said that by speaking against democratic institutions, the civil society members were indirectly inviting dictatorship. File photo
PTI Leader of the Opposition and BJP leader Sushma Swaraj said that by speaking against democratic institutions, the civil society members were indirectly inviting dictatorship. File photo

Lok Sabha members cutting across party lines criticised members of Team Anna who levelled allegations of corruption and reportedly used derogatory terms to describe parliamentarians and politicians.

Even as the members spoke against Team Anna, MPs from the Congress belonging to the Telangana region as also those from the Telengana Rashtra Samiti and the Telugu Desam Party rushed to the well of the House raising slogans in support of separate Statehood.

Suggesting that social activist Anna Hazare should remain within his limits, Leader of the Opposition in the Lok Sabha Sushma Swaraj accused him of using unparliamentary language against the legislators.

She recalled that the BJP, along with other Opposition parties, had supported Mr. Hazare's demand for a strong Lokpal Bill and had even slammed the government for bringing a “weak” legislation.

Ms. Swaraj said the issue was not limited to an individual or a group of MPs but the entire institution, which was the anchor of democracy in the country.

Team Anna member Arvind Kejriwal, during a day-long fast here on Sunday, alleged that 165 MPs, including 14 Ministers, were corrupt and accused of rape.

Remarking that Team Anna had lost direction, the Leader of the Opposition said that by speaking against democratic institutions, the civil society members were indirectly inviting dictatorship.

National Democratic Alliance (NDA) convenor and Janata Dal-United leader Sharad Yadav, who had shared the platform with Team Anna at Jantar Mantar last year, said that Mr. Hazare was against democracy as he was attacking Parliament.

“We have fought against corruption for the past 30 years and for the rights of the poor and the farmers. I supported Anna but cannot agree with all his demands,'' Mr. Yadav said.

Accusing Team Anna of “working against Parliament,” Mr. Yadav said MPs had often raised the issue of corruption inside the House. He recalled that some MPs had to lose their membership in the cash-for-query scam. “We had also raised the issue of 2G scam,” he said.

Describing the allegations as a “matter of concern,” Congress' Sanjay Nirupam said the “so-called civil society” was using uncivil language. He also demanded a probe into the activities of the anti-corruption movement.

CPI(M) leader Basudeb Acharia and Samajwadi Party leader Shailendra Kumar termed Team Anna's allegations “condemnable.” Mr. Acharia said the attack on MPs was not an attack on an individual but on the reputation of the entire House.

As slogan-shouting on the Telangana issue continued, Deputy Speaker Kariya Munda adjourned the House for the day.

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Not all MP'S are Bad ! For god's sake there are doctors, engineers, mba's , Educated Economists most important HONEST mp's sitting inside the parliament too who have acted in the favor of common man.

team anna should consider it.
If a dog bites a person. You cant kill all the dogs in locality. there are few that are awake in the night to serve the master"

from:  Kashish Dhawan
Posted on: Mar 29, 2012 at 00:23 IST

"No nation is great or good because Parliament enacts this or that, but because its men are great and good."
Swami Vivekananda

from:  Ramya S
Posted on: Mar 28, 2012 at 20:02 IST

Parliament is just another building. Those who are elected and go there are just like any other citizens of India. The so called noble symbol of democracy gains its augustness only by the deeds of these people who walk and talk on these floors! Watching porn, bribing to vote, hurling shoes, physical and verbal abuses etc. are certainly not acts of augustness.
Sushma - What did your party do with those MLAs who watched porn in Karnataka assembly? Did they not demolish the sanctity of the august house? If you are so seriousness about holding the sanctity of the house, what did you do with your party MLAs?

from:  Siva Ramaswami
Posted on: Mar 28, 2012 at 00:28 IST

Just to clarify, I never knew about Anna till a few months ago, but I
too regarded Indian Parliament as a joke or at best a national scandal.
Not all netas are corrupt therefore all of them cannot be painted the same is no excuse - remember that what it takes for evil to flourish is not many evil men to do everything but a few good men to do nothing. Instead of owning up to their mistakes and making amends these people are busy criticizing and trying to bury anyone they feel can harm their vote bank or pierces their vanity.

from:  Aritra Gupta
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 20:30 IST

It takes no time for all MPs to unite to pass motion against team Anna, it takes no time to unite to raise their own salary. why does it take so long years and all this talking to bring lokpal bill? Where was the dignity when Mr. Tiwary talked loud. Where was dignity when during UP election people challanged election comission? Can you politicians just speak on Lokpal Bill?

from:  Kumar
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 20:10 IST

I totally agree with the parliamentarians that team Anna has not got license to make derogatory remarks on the Parliamentarians. All Parliamentarians can not be tarnished with same paint, Team Anna should understand it. They should respect the our democratic structure and should not forget that due to this very democratic rights they are demonstrating. Attacking only on leaders is not a way out of the problem. There are several other means by which they or even any other group or individual can strike on the roots of corruption.

from:  Ranveer Kapoor
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 17:12 IST

Some intellectuals here feel that we can not criticize the MPs whom we have elected. Just becoz they have been elected and sent to parliament no body gives them rights to ignore people's views/complaints or indulge in corruption or ask ppl to shut their mouth and wait for next elections. If this is the only way ppl can have their say (by just casting their vote) let that be more frequent every year or even biannually.

from:  Balli
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 14:52 IST

The Parliamentarians, first, are citizens of the country & not superhumans who have landed from the heavens. They enjoy lot of privileges including fees for attending Sessions by tax payers. While all the Members shout at height of their voice that they are for eradicating corruption, no one has shown determination to expose the corrupt. Further,there are criminal cases against many of them for possessing DAs. When they do not act as per the command of their conscience & oppose or support public causes based on party's political interests, they deserve to be criticised & they must take such instances in their stride.If they do a sort of voluntary or selfless service, there is a case of privilege if someone has to voice against them. They are not holy cows or saints. It is not only Team Anna, majority of citizens are critical of the Parliamentarians/Ministers. Let them fight for a strong Lokpal but not against critics. After all, Sri Kejriwal has not made any personal remarks either.

from:  SR Sankaran
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 14:31 IST

Going by most of the comments - there is a sickening cynicism against politicians ; sure, they are not shining examples of everything that is good and honest. But they are the TRUE representatives of the people (not a group of individuals calling themselves to be 'civil society members' and constantly bad mouthing our elected representatives). Are the politicians the only ones who indulge in corruption ? What about corporate sector / film industry / white collared professionals. Do we not cheat by filing false income tax returns / producing fake bills to claim expenses that we never incurred in the first place etc. Stop this chorus "politicians are bad ; Lokpal will fix everything that is wrong in the Indian Society". If every Indian decides to be corruption free, then India will be free of corruption.

from:  Hariharan
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 14:07 IST

We must eradicate corruption in our country. It should be monitored and punished then and there. It should create fear in mind of politicians / all power holding authorities. Then only they will do their duty properly and people also should cast their vote not for freebies or money. Anna Team activity is politically motivated one. It reveals in their words.

from:  S.Suresh
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 13:37 IST

If people of India start picking up arms in the real sense to fight this
corrupt system, our MPs will have no place to hide. Please do not push
the nation to that point. Instead of making loud protests against those
who are peacefully protesting corruption, MPs should focus on doing
something proactively and really effective in stemming this rot.

from:  Jose
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 13:03 IST

let the MPs first behave in such a manner that will invite respect.

from:  kannan
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 12:13 IST

why BJP is making such nuisance,why not they are taking care of those MP from their party who are watching clip on mobile in temple of democracy,basically they are making parliament in to their amusement place.i think in our country only one institution is thinking for development and that is team Anna.they are mouth of 1 billion citizen.

from:  aditya kumar maurya
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 11:28 IST

They are not targeting the Parliament at all. They are talking about the member as individuals, who are araingned in court cases and are watching porn in the assembly. Who is ridiculing the Institutions, kejiwal or those watching porn in the august halls of democracy? Sushma is small minded to defend the actions of her party MLA's. If she was of PM material she would be defending Parliament against the abusers whether they are her party or anyone.

from:  kammusingh
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 11:05 IST

Indian parliament is the supreme law making body of this country and it is also true that the parliamentarians are the elected representatives of the people. But this is not an excuse to all the misdeeds of the parliamentarians. It is their responsibility to protect the sanctity of the parliament. And it is the right of the people to criticise when the parliamentarians fail to perform their duties. We should not forget that it was an elected representative of the people brought out emergency in India in 1975 by destroying all the democratic values. Yes, we should respect democratic institutions, but should not romanticize it.

from:  muneer
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 10:46 IST

He has said plain truth but he has to be careful for his life too and only these MPs will pass the law. So he has to make sure all of them are not alienated. Don't give them any chance to side track the main issue. Good luck Arvind. You are our hero and very brave. We are with you. But play tactfully.

from:  Vaibhav
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 10:42 IST

There is a saying... "thirudanukku thel kottinarpol" which means "only a thief shall feel such statements as a sting of a scorpion". cutting across parties corrupt poiticians prevrail and its only expected that thieves unite regardless of caste, creed or colour. alas! Anna! yet another successful tactic of the 'holy sacred' politicians' successfully orchestrated by Congress

from:  krish
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 10:10 IST

There seems to be a lot of angst amongst people on this issue. The politicians rather than crying foul need to introspect this issue and answer to themselves if such a reaction is justified.As far as the general public is concerned, we pray that this anger continues to keep them inspired and vote against the corrupt whenever the next elections present themselves

from:  krishnan
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 09:32 IST

what Anna Hazare is doing here is what is called spreading discontent and spewing hatred against government and democratic institutions indirectly inciting people against is a criminal offence of very high order and i wonder why he and his cronies haven't been brought to the book yet? it is the apathy of this weak UPA that doesn't want to irritate any vote pool in any way or is it due to arm wrenching by the muscled hand? i wonder!

from:  vikram sihag
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 09:17 IST

Dear Parliamentarians , Team Anna is speaking the truth . If you have doubts ask the people again - call for a national referendum. Only if the moral integrity of those in parliament is unquestionably clean , can you claim professional ownership of the parliament. Otherwise not . ONLY when criticized ,you join hands cutting across party lines. Why ? All of you are today talking about supremacy of parliament, sanctity of parliament ; exclusive legislation powers of parliament ; sovereignty of parliament etc .How come the qualification criteria to this exclusive institution of democracy is not being cleaned up? How come you are not talking about the crime tainted MPs now sitting in parliament ??-162 MPs (29.83 %)with criminal charges and 76 (14.00 %) MPs with serious criminal charges ( Statistics courtesy ADR website)but making all such high claims reg parliament . How come you are not talking about cleaning up such a holy institution of parliamentary democracy ?

Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 09:14 IST

there is nothing wrong in abusing politicians when they are wrong. Just a simple question, why is Govt. not making strong committe against corruption. They had solved Team Annas's demands, they wouldn't have been sitting and protesting now and there wouldn't have been any politicians left to accuse, they would have been in Jail by now.

from:  Kumaraswami Mathapati
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 08:01 IST

It was so comical to see all the crooks in the parliament united regardless of their party affiliation in their indignation at the insults heaped on them. The parliament has been trying to come up with anti corruption bill since independence. These law makers will never allow any bill to pass in the parliament that will impede their ability to enrich themselves. If there is an independent body to set up to look into the finances of these so called parliamentarians, I can bet you 90% of them will be put in jail. God help India.

from:  shashi Nair
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 06:51 IST

Yes BJP has Gali Brothers, yeduveerappa as ministers and CM. Gali Brothers kept tons of Crores of Rupees chest to make this great lady as PM. It is shame on all MPs attacking Team Anna. Everybody knows the games played by all political parties in Parliament to see that strong Lokpal is not passed. They know what happened to them, if they pass the bill. Let them accept the challenge and pass the strong Lokpal Bill and see the fun.

from:  Madhu
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 01:50 IST

I my opinion it would be naive on part of the political class to claim that they are innocent. If we see the property returns of most of the sitting MLA's and MP's in subsequent elections, their net worth is increasing by 400-500%. I wonder how this is possible in 5 years, considering the meagre salary and the allowances a MLA/MP is entitled to. Also common man is well aware of the nexus b/w politicians and criminals. If we see the latest UP elections results we will come to know how many persons with criminal record are sitting MLA's in the UP Assembly. If the political class has the will to eliminate criminals from the political system, all they need to do is to deny B form for candidates with criminal record during an election. Rather than doing what is required critisizing team Anna is not the right thing to do.

from:  Sathwick
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 00:36 IST

@Achint Porwal, aditya and Sumit, I would completely agree with what
Lakshmi Narasimham W has said on this page. Brilliant answer. I wish I
had written that.

from:  GKannuchamy
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 00:28 IST

Mr.Natrajan Kanagasabi, I must say has got his facts all upside down and twisted. Is he promoting corrupt politicos and their cronies. Please revisit the facts sir. If not for Anna and the likes, India would be doomed. Civil society is not going take all that is dished out by corrupt ploiliticians and officials. They are going to revolt and fight for their rights , make no mistake about it.The acid test is for politicians of all parties to declare their assets before been elected and 2 years down the road! Greed
has not limits and no cure. "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely"
Personally I am sick and tired of people who sit on their chair and be "Armchair critics"

from:  Rsiva
Posted on: Mar 27, 2012 at 00:23 IST

I don't understand why this is all happening. I agree that the parliament has many members which have serious charges against them. But ultimately, who brings them to power. Who elects them? The answer is WE, THE PEOPLE OF INDIA. Instead of calling them derogatory terms, why doesn't team anna focus more on public and general awareness. Educating the masses is the solution, not defaming someone. Nobody forced me to vote for a specific person, I vote on my own will. But Alas! As it has been rightly observed by a scholar, in India, you don't cast your vote, you vote your caste!

from:  Sahil
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 22:55 IST

While our political system might not be the best possible, please, for the love of god lets not support an ego-maniac like Anna and his team. At least when we're unhappy with our legislators we can vote them out in the next election but who is Mr. Anna answerable to - no one! A person who says that people who consume alcohol should be tied up and beaten needs help - not the unquestioning adoration and support that he constantly demands.
And the lesser said about his team, the better - Kiran Bedi sees no ethical/moral wrong when she charges organizations for facilities she did not use and Mr. Kejriwal does not bother to vote till the media reminded him!!!!

from:  Siddharth
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 22:23 IST

What Anna is doing is not an attack on Institution per se but on the people who are occupying them. If profile of the members change for better, Anna or for that matter nobody will have any objection. If the members are getting angry or feel cornered is itself an indication of decay that has set in. If Anna is arrogant then probably he would have talked about replacing members by his own team by undemcratic means.

from:  Raghunath
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 22:14 IST

For that matter are there no corrupt MPs/MLAs/MINISTERs? Are there NO criminals among MPs/MLAs/Ministers? Are there NO LOOTERS? Are there NO MURDERERS ? Are there NO SCAMSTERS ? Then why Mrs.Swaraj is crying hoarse? what made her to react to such an extent about a REALITY ? Mr.Kejriwal in fact made the public known the correct and factual information.At this hour,the peoples mandate is with ANNAJI, but not with the MPs/MLAs/Ministers.She has to understand this.

from:  Anthony
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 22:12 IST

With enough desi unscrupulous leaders inside the country, we do not need foreign powers to destabilise it. They see a foreign hand immediately once their chair is in danger.

from:  Tarsem Singh
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 22:10 IST

More than any other political party it is the utter hypocrisy of the
BJP “ a party with difference” that stands out like sore thumb.
Sushma Swaraj's talk of the civil society members were indirectly inviting dictatorship is amusing, clearly indicating that the party is unwilling to draw any lessons from the drubbing it had received in the UP elections. These crocodile tear shedding champions of democracy may take a referendum to understand that a common man has a better opinion of a worm than an Indian politician.
Parliamentarians can bombastically talk of their privileges etc but common people are well aware that “political power attracts swarms of crooks, demagogues and despots as surely as horse manure attracts swarms of horseflies."

from:  N.G. Krishnan
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 21:47 IST

Anna team members are trying to destroy people's faith on democratic
institutions and elected leaders so that they can win. However once
the discipline is lost and the boundaries are crossed, lawlessness
will prevail and any country can become a mere mob. Also we all need
to remember that India has a diverse culture; different languages,
casts, religions etc and inorder to maintain this unity diversity,
people's faith on democratic institutions is a must. If the faith is
lost and once the central GOVT looses its credibility and grip on GOVT
institutions then the outcome is written on the wall 'our country will
disintegrate'. Even now many of the Anna supporters are saying we dont
need India we need smaller countries, but I can tell you they were not
like this before they joined this movement. So we should appreciate
and support our GOVT to take strict steps against Anna movement and
like Koodankulam GOVT must bring the foreign support they are getting
to limelight. Jai Hind.

from:  Biju
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 21:46 IST

Sushma swaraj attack on Team Anna is ploy to divert the attention. Pity the BJP and the Congress have no intention to bring an ideal jan lokpal.They dont want to be accountable to a powerful investigating agency.The Netas in the BJP and the Congress sing the same song with different tune.Both to be rejected in the coming lok sabha election.India need men like Lokia and Raj Narayan to dismantale the corrupt system.The BJP is now ready to compromise with its lofty principles for the sake of power and position to perpectuate the corrupt system to prevail for eternity in the country.

from:  KB.Sundram.Tamilnadu
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 21:31 IST

It is all the more comforting to read that Parliamentarians are taking the voice of so-called Civil societies very seriously. But why have they failed to pass a unanimous resolution which all parties seemed to have been supporting? I think the only best solution in this seemingly tumultous political stage in Indian Democracy is for the parliamentarians to demonstrate that 1) they are serious about Indian democracy; 2) no one, who tries to put himself/herself/others above the Indian constitution, shall be left scot free; and 3) the house (the Parliament itself) from which they are sending these concrete messages is set in order.

from:  Annavaram N.
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 21:26 IST

Are all the Parliamentarians free from corruption, rape or loot? No, then Anna and his team have the right, on behalf of the people, to question those Parliamentarians. The Parliamentarians with corruption charges etc are attaching themselves with the sanctity of the Parliament and stall the civil society movement. The honest parliamentarians, who, instead of join hands with people cause, join hands with the corrupt in parliament in the name of Parliament supremacy.

from:  S Saraswathi
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 21:22 IST

Dear Parliamentarians you are telling that if we follow Anna that will lead us to dictatorship. So
what is happening in your country is not any way less than any dictator rule. What did anna said
Please file FIR against those corrupted leader.Now your are trying to justify democracy of our country where people being beaten in the middle of the night for simple non violent demonstration
.Please its the hike of every thing 10.7 Lakh Core SCAM. What else

from:  S.Mahesh
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 21:06 IST

What would you expect to hear if you call looter a looter, spade a
spade. It needs courage to point out wrong of a powerful man and Anna
and his team have been doing a postmortem of all the corrupts at once.
I am sure they are in grave danger for standing for a crumpling nation
where very few stand and most think of themselves first. Those who
stand are killed and the list is growing. Government hand in hand with
mafia totally bypassing the need for a justice system and directly
handling the honest. Honest are not going to gallows anymore like in
British Raj instead they are murdered by corrupts of society.
Janlokpal bill can't be expected from INC, BJP, SP, BSP or any other
corrupt party, it will be foolish of them to enact such a bill that
will haunt them for rest of their lives. Annan needs to enter the
system and play by the rules of the system, he needs to form or
support a political party and clean the dirt with his own hands.
United we stand divided we fall

from:  Manish
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 20:44 IST

There is at least one issue that unites all the politicians.
They can't tolerate criticism.
They won't enact laws to end corruption.
Their life revolves round parliament.
They sit in the parliament if elected or in the gallery after losing elections.
Team Anna's criticism is not directed against the honest, and those who take it
personally should look into themselves and correct their defects.
Going to Jail early in their careers, doesn't give a life long immunity from corruption.
Openness, transparency and honesty, are the hall marks of great leaders and I don't
know if we have any one left in the parliament.

Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 20:30 IST

Let Team Anna first remove corruption from its own ranks and cast aside those with a 'proven' history of corruption.
Like those travelling in one class, and charging 2-3 entities full fares, and DA, hotel bills etc of a much higher class.
If Anna wants to walk his talk, then let him take affirmative action

from:  vsrinivas
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 20:25 IST

If Indians do not have the right to cast doubt on parliamentrians, then we do not have free speech. This is the meaning of the First Amendment in the American Constitution. Until then, no man was had the right speak against the King. It was treason. I thought we broke off from Britain 65 years ago.

from:  Naren
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 20:08 IST

Bitter truth! By reacting so shamelessly, the parliamentarians are just confirming that they are corrupt. Is it merely a chance we hardly have a sub-crorepati (going by their own declarations which might be only half-true at best) MP today? Where did the money come to them? The brilliant students keep slogging the whole life accumulate that kind of money. The minnows who are forced to choose careers in law, administration, politics, police, entertainment, media etc mint money in hardly 5 years of their service (disservice!). Even parents tutor their kids to opt for Govt jobs. Every person in politics or entertainment invariably introduces his kids to the profession s/he is in and starts a family fiefdom. No wonder why the country hardly has an extraordinary professional in any discipline now.

from:  VMN Sharma
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 19:57 IST

Parliamentarians forget that it is civil society which has put them into
the house. They need not act as if someone is trying to set the house on
fire and they are trying to douse it. Please enact a strong Lokpal bill
first and then attack civil society members. If you cannot do that then
this house deserves to be called only a talking shop.

from:  Rajnish
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 19:41 IST

Only team Anna has the courage to cast off
India's evil of hypocrisy and call a spade a
spade. The only solution to criminals entering
parliament and government is the 'right to
reject' and 'right to recall'. That is the
first priority. The criminals will never pass
any laws which reduce their power i.e. money
earning capacity. All laws introduced are with
sufficient loopholes.
These criminals are defiling the temple of
democracy. We will have to wash it clean with
ganga jal, milk and haldi. God help us.

from:  vanita
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 19:24 IST

We are heading towards a "French Revolution" like situation
1) In the name of democracy - we have to choose between Mulayam and
Mayawathi in UP, Jayalalithaa and Karunanidhi in Tamilnadu,
Yeddiyurappa, and Kumarasamy in Karnataka, BJP or Congress at the
center - all are epitomes of corruption.
2) If kejriwal quotes from election commissions statistics on the
number of MLAs and MPs against whom there are pending criminal charges
- unity amongst all parties in the parliament decides kejriwal is
crossing limits!
3) The same parliament neglected the facts revealed by the election
4) If one were to analyse all our MPs and MLAs based on Bhagavat Gitas
definition for corruption - all the MPs and MLAs will be judged
corrupt. Do we expect this institution is going to pass a strong
lokpal bill! No way
5) people and news media have a short lived memory - what happened to
Marans case? What about lallu Prasad fodder scam? what about Hassan
Ali? We can recall innumerable cases

from:  Rajan
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 19:20 IST

I fully support Team Anna's contention about Members of Parliament,
before taking Team Anna to task, MPs must make efforts to clean its
house .

from:  Manish Chowdhary
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:54 IST

Dear MP's actually none of us care about how you all feel when we call you names, you all should be called with worst names. We have no faith in Parliament and in any or all the resolutions passed by it,sooner or later resolutions will be passed from outside the parliament which will be much harder than the provisions of proposed Lokpal, most of you will cry for God's mercy that day is not too far off.

from:  xavier surender
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:42 IST

Team Anna finds fault with all the 3 pillars of a democratic State, the Legislature, Executive and the Judiciary. Yes corruption is there in all these 3 institutions in varied degrees. But as they are independent of each other and checks and balances are in place on each of these institutions, the wheel of democracy moves on. We may bring about refinements in their functioning to remove the problems of inefficiency and corruption in them in aan evolutionary process.
Team Anna does not want that to happen.
They need an all powerful Lokpal who is not accountable to any democratic institutions or processes; they want to superimpose this extra constitutional body on us, for which there is neither the mandate of the people nor political will. How do they expect the Lokpal to be a holy cow free from corruption misses one's understanding. Knowing that they cannot achieve it by their agitation why do they do it still? They want to project themselves as the modern Avatar of Mahatmaji!

from:  natarajan kanagasabai
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:42 IST

Civil society has every right to criticise and demonstrate against
corrupt politicians. IS Sushma Swaraj claiming that politicians are
above suspicion? Anybody who is a thinking Indian knows that
corruption is the biggest burden our country bears and it starts with
the very politicians who are the guardians of our money, policies and
dignity as a country.
It has come to such a pass that people have given up and no longer
feel like voting - it's hard to decide who is the least corrupt when
it is election time, so I'd rather not vote!

It's high time the government and the political class woke up to the
wave that is running through India and thought about how to change
rather than about trying desperately to clamp down on activists like
Anna and his team. Anna Hazare - please keep this going. India is
behind you!

from:  Viji Fernandes
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:33 IST

@GK I think team Anna is not against democracy they are against the politician who are against the social welfare. The number one reason for politician to ignore social welfare is corruption and hence they are against it. If corrupt politician are out better policies can be framed in parliament.

from:  aditya
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:26 IST

Most of the politicians have a background of corruption, and now they are trying to show their power against the Team Anna. Anna Hazare is voice of public. As a citizen of India we all Indians have the right to march towards the house of politicians made money from politics. Dont care which political party ever. The time is running away

from:  Suresh Punnappilly
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:25 IST

@GK :-Can you please explain your perception of dictatorial government by the team Anna or when you say that Team Anna refuses in the voting system.People in Team Anna are the ones who are fighting hard to stop corruption and get back the real democracy, which now has been made a mockery by our ruthless politicians.

from:  Sumit
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:24 IST

Why are the MPs concerned if they don't believe in what team Anna has said? Instead of debating on this, let them debate on Lokpal and how to make it stronger, that will win some trust which the politicians and MPs have completely lost. Where is the dignity of parliament when they the votes are bought with cash and debates are fixed like cricket match inside the parliament. Shameless elected representatives, think they have the license to do what they please.

from:  Shrinivas
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:15 IST

You name a poor politician I give you my support. Anna has done the right thing given the circumstances, he could have been a bit more selective in his choice of words. He is tired , frusrtrated and sick of all allegations against Team ANNA.
Agree Team Anna is not India but IT comprises of people who care for Hindustan . The moment you say anything about the politician all of them gang up and come up with stories of foriegn NGOs etc. There might be some element of truth in it . But the fact is most politicians are corrupt to the core. I know the truth hurts. During my recent visit ti India I found that people at all levels are fed up with the corruption. From banks to public departments all they want is "something". It is the cancer of the Indian society.

It is time IPS,IAS officers are allowed to do thier duty and the powers above support the civil society. India is on the march

from:  Rsiva
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:04 IST

@GK, Dear Sir, In India Every Person knew how our elected leaders are corrupt , It is not new to anyone what Team Anna said Yesterday. If Politicians are Saint than why not INDIA became DEVELOPED and peaceful and corruption free ,SUPERPOWER country. They are not asking dictatorial govt., they are just want INDIA SHOULD BE CORRUPTION FREE.

from:  Achint Porwal
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 18:03 IST

Where is sanctity of our parliament temple when leaders see porn movie while sitting in it. Why all MPs fight to one another for not allow discussion of on matters to be discussed & expenses of crores in parliamentry proceeding is wasted by abusing and fight with each others by our priest of parliament temple. Pls understand the reality. We were made mad by Englishmen and now our leaders are doing this job. But Indians are now much mature and we will give answer. Today an Indian farmer read the newspater. Pls awake

from:  Sanjeev Bhartiya
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:48 IST

Indian Public is losing faith in Parliamenterians. Now it is for the Parliamenterians to prove that they are sincere to public / Aam Aadmi.

This is the main reason for National parties to lose the election in UP and other major states.

from:  SRIRAM
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:46 IST

These are the same leaders who give tickets to goondas and thugs to come into the
so-called sacred institution which they call Parliament. Very sadly the present
Government is being run remotely by the leadership against which there is lot of
allegations of black money and corruption. They should have had the priority to
clear the allegations if they are false , to create trust in the minds of people. Having
given tickets to criminal elements , Parliamentarians have no voice to protest the
'revelations' of Team Anna. First need of the hour is for the Prime Minister to wake up
from his deep slumber and take a whip, not to use against team Anna but to use
against all those criminal elements in the Parliament. Whatever said, we Indians live
in dreams and this is also one of them I know.

from:  G.Chandrasekaran
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:41 IST

Why so much noise let all the 163 MPS come clean by cooperating with judiciary. They should face the trial and get the cases come to an end at the earliest. They are taking shelter in the parliament and not interested in getting the cases to be completed.

from:  G.Raghunath
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:38 IST

Team Anna is fighting for a good cause. They want the people's representatives (parliamentarians) to the lowest government official to follow non-corrupt practices. All of us as citizens of India want that too. However, we wish thier means is legitimate, civilised and politically correct. Addressing someone whom a court has not pronounced as a criminal, as a murderer is incorrect. Team Anna, the good hearted (I believe) is moving away from the focus.

from:  Rajesh
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:37 IST

All politicians , including those in the Governments, should know that those alike you who were in even the most dictatorial and tyrannical offices, professed and pretended to be acting for the good of the people. When the British ruled India and held the country by naked brute force, they claimed to be doing so for the good of the Indian people. Dear Politicians , please be noted that Indian Democracy is not a license to few of you to destroy everything – including all our nation’s morals values. Some poor people are voting for Money so votes are being purchased at any cost. This is even confirmed, a short-time ago, by the Chief Election Commissioner of India. Some ignorant, poor and illiterate people are easily swayed by cheap propaganda, empty slogans and attractive promises and gifts offered , directly and/or indirectly, by some from your group of Politicians. While , some shrewd and unscrupulous politicians misguide them with tall talk and exploited their ignorance for their selfish objectives.
Dear politicians you are fully aware of these weaknesses of the people and of our democracy and you have taken maximum advantage of them as and when the circumstances demanded. A headquarters of a national level political party, in New Delhi, was shifted from one Road to a plot on a prestigious Road, the market value of which at that time was some Rs 100 crores but which was handed over to the party for Rs 2 crores only. Relative of a politician who was given super security protection at the tax payer's expense and is excused from being frisked at airports even though ordinary citizen’s representatives [ which include the defense chiefs of staff sometimes ] are not accorded such a sign of respect.
Why should MPs occupy bungalows each estimated at many crores and often continue to occupy even when their term of office is over? In some cases Courts have given directions to the Governments in this regard. Please answer- What Politicians have you done in such matters ? How disappointed we are. It is high time we need debate for such questions with all honest leaders sitting together. Then only we can convey our Plight.

from:  N. K. Dhuvad
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:28 IST

Its a play of unfortunate legislation which our politicians are doing in parliament. They are giving common views when it comes on there stride of defaming. They are enforcing the bad concept of ruling the country in the guise of having pristine and cultured character. shame on them,graph of development every now and then of our country is showing hail lots quandaries and they are claiming praise for themselves. The act of opposing Anna and team is simply reflecting these MP's insecurity of surviving further.

from:  Sripati
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:21 IST

These MPs found parliamentary time to critise Team Anna but could not
spend a few moments to search if there are any criminals sitting among
themselves. Every newspaper has carried stories related to MPs, MLAs and
even ministers with connections to mafia and criminal background. Will
the so called 'custodians of democracy' find time to ask themselves the
tough questions? I do not think so. Please know that we the public do
not respect you. We 100% agree with Anna.

from:  Parveen Mirza
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:18 IST

I feel that we need to follow Subrahmanyam Swamy's approach to fight corruption. There is no use of token fasts. We do have enough laws. Instead of fighting for a new law, Using the existing ones and fighting is far better. I dont see any need for scolding or using foul language against anybody in this process. Swamy delivered better results without all the hue and cry than these so called Anna team.

from:  Lakshmi Narasimham W
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:15 IST

We have a democratic country all this while. Where the heck has Anna guy been all this
time. Was he hibernating? Let him stick to a village or adopt villages. Not the whole nation.
Or has he been prodded by persons who have their own agenda? I always been under the
impression that he was being ridiculous and he has not betrayed my conviction.

from:  Chinny
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:14 IST

If Raja / Kanimozhi / Laloo / Kalmadi etc. are going to comment/ debate / vote / draft a Lokpal bill then please someone explain to the people of this country as to how can a common man can have faith in the Parlimentarians delivering a strong and effective lokpal bill ?

We cant stop ploiticians watching porn in assembly ? accused from contesting election ? .....Raja Bhayaa (Samajwadi MLA facing serious criminal charges) is the Minister of prison ?

I agree that Team Anna may have crossed the line on a few occasions but I think they reflect the frustration and helplessness of the common man.

from:  Chandra R
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:13 IST

Are we talking about the same MPs who abuse and thrash each other inside the parliament? Are these the same people who do not think twice before showing chappals in the so called temple of democracy? what and what not.

from:  Rishi
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 17:02 IST

It is increasingly becoming a matter of great amusement to read news and people' comments - abusing the very politicians that were elected by a democratic process. And if Anna Hazare's croonies are using foul language, then they should back off. Trying to do good is one thing, abusing others is another especially your elected leaders.

Don't like them, use your right under democracy and ensure they do not get elected again, create and/or provide viable alternatives to these "corrupt politicians" who get elected over and over again - find out why and stop that as a grass-roots thing.

Team Anna should not and cannot fight all battles in India -- this very push by the people to ask them to take on everything and they seem to be spreading themselves thin, makes me nervous. India seems to be creating a super-vigilante-group and I foresee a huge problem with that.

from:  Rangarajan Suresh
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:57 IST

If this parliament is the "temple of democracy " as some of the sitting MPs claim today , then why is this same parliament allowing 162 MPs (29.83 %)with criminal charges and 76 (14.00 %) MPs with serious criminal charges ( Stats courtesy ADR website)to sit in this parliament ?If parliament is such a sacred institution in a democracy , can crime tainted persons be part of such institution & empowered to make laws for the country ?Those claiming moral high ground in the parliament must first take action to clean up the parliament of such elemnets and then talk about it being the "temple of Indian democracy" .

This confrontation is heading for a showdown between the electorate and civil society on one side and the so called "elected representatives" on the other.

If the elected represenattives no longer enjoy the trust or confidence of the electorate they represent - THEY MUST GO , instead of clinging onto their seats .

Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:53 IST

Enough said. We're going to kick all those who are inefficient or corrupt out of office with our votes. @B.S. Kumar, the very process you're talking about; voting as a democratic process is what the Team Anna refuse to believe in. What purpose would your act serve then? They don't want anything less than a dictatorial govt.

from:  GK
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:53 IST

the reaction of MPs is wrong when they attack one another nobody bothers-civil society has the right to do so-let all MPs come clean on corruption then no need for civil society action plan

from:  kprasad
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:51 IST

Not China nor Pakistan. The ISI are dear friends and the Taliban the Vote Bank. Corruption knows who the enemy is

from:  S. Suchindranath Aiyer
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:48 IST

It is unfortunate even the people in team Anna, some of whom have occupied very responsible positions in administration,should look so uninformed about the basic issues.I had written that abolishing the OFFICIAL SECRETS ACT is the crying need of the hour.Corruption in departments like defence,atomic energy etc is rarely brought out in the open.Checking of such matter will get railways to make profit

from:  Atis
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:47 IST

The pity is that these Parliamentarians themselves behave like hooligans !It is true that several of them are with criminal background !Under the unquestionable authority of the Parliament, many of them behave like feudal lords.Gone are the days of the best Parliamentarians India had. Alas ! there is no way out in our great democratic system to make a person disqualified by the people. That is our tragedy.And that you strength... dear elected members !

from:  Viswanath C
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:35 IST

Diversionary tactics of the politicians. Instead of talking about Anna and others, they should talk about corruption, the MLAs and MPs who are accused of crimes.

from:  Abhinav
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:35 IST

It looks like the parliment is finding ways not to pass a strong lokpal bill. I dont understand where democracy and dictatorship came into picture here.
As the famous saying goes 'Unity is strength', the parlimentarians just demostrated that today. But, the irony is, all these people are united... only to loot!

from:  gopal
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:31 IST

And what would be wrong with attacking or condemning institutions we no longer have faith in? If our politicians are so concerned about maintaining the sanctity of our so called great democratic institutions, then let them stop abusing it for personal gain and for looting the nation. Enough said. We're going to kick all those who are inefficient or corrupt out of office with our votes. Get your act together if you don't want to join that list.

from:  B S Kumar
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:25 IST

Completely agree with Ms. Sushma Swaraj that Team Anna has completely
lost its track. Post their mumbai fiasco, they have become arrogant and
nowadays they just are just busy making wild accusations without any
substantial proof and later retracting their statements. All this seems
to be a ploy to be in media limelight and in people's memory.

from:  Sanjay
Posted on: Mar 26, 2012 at 16:19 IST
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