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Updated: December 23, 2011 02:07 IST

Bill weak, incompetent to handle corruption: Hazare

Amruta Byatnal
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File photo shows a kitemaker in Ahmedabad surrounded by kites with portraits of Anna Hazare. The anti-corruption activist has said the new Lokpal Bill is of no use if the anti-corruption ombudsman does not have control over the CBI and the lower bureaucracy.
File photo shows a kitemaker in Ahmedabad surrounded by kites with portraits of Anna Hazare. The anti-corruption activist has said the new Lokpal Bill is of no use if the anti-corruption ombudsman does not have control over the CBI and the lower bureaucracy.

Calling the government's Lokpal Bill “weak and incompetent to handle corruption in the country,” anti-graft crusader Anna Hazare said on Thursday that such a Bill should not be passed by Parliament.

He stated that if Parliament failed to pass a stronger Bill in favour of the people, he would take the struggle to the ‘people's parliament' and go ahead with his agitation from December 27. He was addressing journalists in his hometown Ralegan Siddhi after watching the day's parliamentary proceedings on television.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Hazare dared Congress president Sonia Gandhi to have a public debate on the Bill. “Sonia Gandhi says the Bill is strong. If it is so, let her come out and debate with us in front of the media. Let people see it. Let us have a face to face debate.”

He disapproved of the Bill for failing to give the Lokpal powers to punish the corrupt. “Unless and until the corrupt are sent to jail, corruption will not end. There should be fear in the minds of people while committing the offence.”

Mr. Hazare was also against bringing the lower bureaucracy (Class C and D) under the purview of the Central Vigilance Commission and not the Lokpal, stating that this would mean an increased government involvement. He also attacked the government for making the CBI an independent body under the Lokpal.

“Such a weak Bill should not be passed by Parliament. If such an incompetent Bill is passed by the Centre, it will affect the States' Lokayukta Bill, which will be emulated from the Lokpal Bill,” Mr. Hazare said, asserting that corruption in the country would not be reduced by such feeble attempts.

Asked if having no quota for minorities in the Lokpal panel was acceptable to him, he said he would like to leave the issue to be sorted by Parliament. “I have faith in Parliament. We will see what they do,” he said.

Chalking out the future course of action, Mr. Hazare said that after his three-day fast from December 27, and the jail bharo andolan, he would tour the country and tell people not to vote for people who had opposed the Jan Lokpal Bill in Parliament.

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Excellent presentation of views from a large cross section of the
society on this burning and very much needed topic.

Posted on: Dec 30, 2011 at 10:15 IST

The agitation for the Lokpal system is based on a false premise that corruption is mainly due to the character fault of rulers, and an oversight by good people over the bad would deliver good governance. The problem is more complex. There are two types of corruption and they require different approaches to solve. The first type of corruption is experienced in their daily lives by most citizens. Far too many ordinary people have to bribe to get about their daily lives. The second type of corruption occurs in the awarding of contracts for large projects. Instead of hankering for a Lokpal who will yet come to disappoint, there is a better way to reduce the first type of corruption by streamlining the existing machineries of governance be reducing the number of those that have power over citizens, and paying them well to reduced the temptation to seek bribes. The second type is more difficult to solve. However, the hankering for a benevolent dictator in the form of a Lokpal is no answer.

from:  S.P.Chakravarty
Posted on: Dec 25, 2011 at 23:31 IST

Mr.Anna Hazare is protesting for right cause, So every Indian who is against corruption should support him and his team members. It is really shame on this government that they could not bring a strong LOKPAL bill and telling thousands of reasons to avoid the bill or bringing in a very weak lokpal bill. My humble request to people of India to participate actively in December 27th protest and JAIL BHARO. He is not protesting for him or not going to get any award, rather criticism only.

from:  R. Saravana Kumar
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 21:43 IST

India has grown above reservation/caste and religion. The poor & minority stands to loose on account of corruption. The country has finally realized the most corrupt party of India.....The congress has lost the mind and heart of the majority in this country. so they are trying t use the minority support. even the minority is interested only in a strong bill. Even the minority is not supporting the congress lokpal draft despite the reservation provided.

from:  Dharmesh
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 13:37 IST

My fears about the Lok Pal Bill are coming true.Outbursts by Lalu and co are orchestrated. The Govt. brought in reservation in Lok Pal constitution and "discreetly"withdrew it for Lalu and Co. to create ruckus.Kapil Sibal has said in the beginning that "we will introduce "the bill in the Parliamenmt but have not said thatwe would pass it. We have introduced the bill but certain "vested"interests obstruct passing the bill. So much of money and time has been wasted. we will come back to squareone. Regarding supremacy of the Parliament, nobody disagrees with the view. but the present lot of parliamentarians can never be supreme. About one third of threm have sullied the sacred institution.

from:  P.S.Arunachalam
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 10:57 IST

MAster stroke by the Congress, to put the Lokpall bill on the road travelled by the Women's reservation bill....

from:  kamal
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 10:15 IST

Anna spoke about peoples parliament..I really don't think its the corruption people against. They were and they will continue to be driven by an emotional impulse based on their personal likings and dislikes.The same applies to the Lokpal movement,If they really were against corruption, they could have send so many corrupt Politicians home by now even without Lokpal with thier mandate.Did they do that?Even the present CM of Tamilnadu has a corruption case in the court, how did the people elect her with such a majority? The examples can go on. 100s of MPs and MLAs all over the country elected by us have cases on coruptions, murders,thefts etc., how and why did we elect them? so long the people are emotionally dirven by their personal likings and dislikes not even 100 lokpals can make any difference.

from:  Jaya Prakash
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 07:40 IST

That is the essence of democracy; if we make a law too stringent, for example in China, corruption is given death sentence, then we cease to be a democracy, we become a tyranny. Taking a lesson from the U.S.A, for example, the need of the hour is to implement existing laws strictly, to the letter. Just creation of new laws will not strengthen the system, if these laws, like the old ones, are implemented in a casual fashion. Simple example, why do autos and taxis not follow the fare as indicated by the meter? That is a start, we do not need high-fangled rules and regulations, just follow the ones we have, period.

from:  Kumar
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 05:54 IST

There was a news item in Facebook yesterday that some NRI groups are suggesting that the UPA government be taught a lesson for its vested interest in maintaining corruption - They plan to park their forex savings in banks outside India and remit less into banks in India. If this is true and become popular, then the UPA will be in some trouble. - Well, there has to be some price paid for patronizing corruption.

from:  Kumar
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 04:16 IST

India has a federal constitution for a good purpose. Since independence, in 1947, democracy has been the business of the subcontinent (compared to some of its neighbours). Outsiders, NGOs, and others can agitate for their goals; maybe also call for (un)democratic actions against an elected government. Anna and his *gang of four* are doing exactly that - without recognizing the fact that Parliament is supreme under the constitution.
PM is also subject to confidence vote by Parliament. CBI is a serious political issue, as long as it operates under PMO. May be at the next stage of development (against corruption) even that could be remedied. Bottom line: Ombudsman will not stop corruption in public life!

from:  Dr. Hari Naidu
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 03:10 IST

If a Strong Lokpal (People's Bill)is passed; Government fears that most (may be all) of them will end up behind bars and all they looted so far will be back to Government Treasury again. They neither want to write their own destiny nor anyone to write for them... We as Patriotic Indian Public Citizens understand your FEAR of Lok Pal (People) but It's time for us to Say Good Bye as we have ONLY NATIONAL INTEREST in Mind...Hard won FREEDOM should not be taken for GRANTED EVER AGAIN. Let's be TRUE PARTIOTIC INDIAN CITIZENS and talk Nation's Progress ...This is the First BIG STEP by us for us... JAI INDIA!

from:  sudhakar
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 01:12 IST

The central government has introduced the bill in Parliament, it proves
that the government is afraid of strong and effective Ombudsman Bill.
Especially the politicians are serious allegations of corruption, they
looked scared to Parliament by the Ombudsman. The tangle of Lalu Prasad
and Mulayam Singh was palpable.

from:  Rajnish kumar
Posted on: Dec 23, 2011 at 01:01 IST

The proposed bill will make a corrupt organization where merit,integrity and efficiency will be sacrificed under the altar of reservation. Why are the protagonists of reservation not asking for reservation in the Defence Services. Maybe because they are COWARDS and do not want to die for their country. Other constitutional bodies do not have reservation. By including reservation, the chances of the Lokpal becoming corrupt are rather high. The government is making a mockery of the whole concept as they want to continue to be corrupt. In the next election we have to get rid of all these old crooks and elect honest people.

from:  S N IYER
Posted on: Dec 22, 2011 at 23:50 IST

No one expected the govt to bring bill for effective/strong Lokpal.The
corrupt would not endanger themselves.The bigwigs enjoy all sorts of
immunity.They loot the county,amass wealth,cheat people.It appears that
nobody can catch them.They are above law. Law does not take its own
course when bigwigs are involved.The guilty lost shame long back and
they have no fear for law.The corrupt masquerade as great.People are
restless.Anna Hazare is the only hope for people.

from:  S.Srinivasan
Posted on: Dec 22, 2011 at 23:00 IST

bringing such a bill to parliament that is definitely going to be
opposed by parties was a game plan by ruling party. it shows their
reluctance to handle this a school or collegef where
you need more than 50 percent reserve quota. the only condition
instead should have been 100 percent clear image and academically
at least bachelor . why the lokpal will be a lion without teeth if
it can not punish any corrupt .congress has learn a lot in 50 years
of rule .it just did corruption all these years . black money of its
followers still lashes in foreign banks. lokpal will wait for
another 50 years . all it knows is how to suppress an agitation
that is aimed at its policies. weather it is Ramdev or Anna
movement. what wrong Ramdev was doing just making people &govt aware
that bring back black money or just asking people to be more
swadeshi. congress ruined his image all over and Annaji is going to
meet the same fate in near future.

from:  sharmaRX covina ca
Posted on: Dec 22, 2011 at 22:14 IST

It is clear that both major national parties have their drawbacks. However, for the nation to progress, Indians in and for the Congress party must purge it off the strangle-hold of that one family.

If and when the powers that be in that party including Manmohan, Chidambaram, Jairam, et al, free themselves of Antonia 'Sonia' Maino Gandhi, and her two children of any 'inherited' senior party posts, democracy in the party and the country will forever be a farce. The two kids are of course welcome to be foot-soldiers, and may be in two or three decades perhaps even gain some competence.

Graft is and will always be non-meritocracy. This family is the most shining example of that in India. Unless the above takes place 'publicly', any of these 'bills' will remain watered down no matter the fine-print it contains.

And, just to be fair, it is of all parties, national and regional. The Hindu can not be expected to publish comments that are contrary to its views, but it's a fact.

from:  Kumar
Posted on: Dec 22, 2011 at 20:51 IST

I am not going to vote the MP who is anti to lokpall bill. The Hindu please make headlines of this issue and please support for strong lok pall bill. I am victim of corruption. Please give address of RJP MP. I will come from australia and sit in front of his house to fast like anna till he supports strong lok pall bill

from:  srikanth from australia
Posted on: Dec 22, 2011 at 20:46 IST
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