I do not defend the killing of innocent people by anybody, says Arundhati Roy
There exists an entire spectrum of resistance, which includes the Maoist movement, asking serious questions about democracy and civilisation, not just of our government, but of our planet, author Arundhati Roy said here on Wednesday.
Ms. Roy was giving a talk on the Indian state's War on People, organised by the Committee for Protection of Democratic Rights. While stating that she was on the side of insurgency, Ms. Roy said, “I don't defend the killing of innocent people by anybody. ‘Do you believe in violence,' is a brain-dead question.”
“There is a whole biodiversity of resistance and the Maoists are at one end. While they might differ in their methods, they agree on one thing. This massive sale [of land and resources] is just not on. At the heart of this problem is land. This insurrection is asking serious questions. It's questioning the meaning of democracy and civilisation. These questions have been asked before, but in universities and seminars. But now hundreds of millions of people are asking these questions. That is the beauty of this resistance,” she said. While the Maoist movement has the strategy for resistance, it lacks the vision for a state; a vision which allows our mountains and rivers to be. The “radical question” to ask and which she wished to ask Maoists was: “Can we leave the bauxite in the mountain?” She was referring to the bauxite in Orissa, which is worth $4 trillion and its mining potential.
“They [Maoists] don't believe in privatisation, but in state capitalism. You cannot say we will do eco-friendly mining. It needs tremendous amount of water and power. There needs to be a serious conversation [in the resistance movement on this]. We can't betray the causes we are fighting for.”
The government, when it followed the neo-liberal agenda had opened “two locks.” One to the Indian market and another to the Babri Masjid, sowing the seeds of capitalism and Hindu fundamentalism, she said.
Ms. Roy said the state, through its pursuit of economic agenda, had unleashed violence in the form of “a war” upon its own citizens by displacing them in millions and stripping them of their resources.
“This economic totalitarianism can only be achieved through an armed state. The middle class and the media are fighting for an armed state,” she said.
“Why does the government need this war? The government inflates the meaning of Maoist to include anybody who is refusing to surrender their land or resources. What makes it so urgent for the government to fight this war? The media say corrupt politicians have so much money, but never expose where the money comes from.”
Answering questions on development in Adivasi areas, she said: “Policies like the NREGA [since renamed Mahatma Gandhi National Rural Employment Guarantee Act] are like crumbs. You take away everything from them and then you say be happy with it.”
To a question by documentary filmmaker Anand Patwardhan on the recent Jnaneshwari train tragedy, Ms. Roy said if Maoists attacked civilians, this would indeed erode their support base. “But they have the people's support. You have to be careful of an atrocity-based analysis. All of us talk [assuming] they don't have mass support,” she said.
Referring to her article in a news magazine recently on her visit to Dantewada, Ms. Roy said she was happy when “accused” of romanticism.
“I believe in the romance of the revolution. I believe in the romanticism of the forest. We don't have a government; we only have a corporate state now,” she said.
Constitution violated
Leading democratic rights activist Gautam Navlakha also spoke at the event. “It is not the Maoists who are going against the law, it is the Government of India which is violating its own Constitution. War is directed against any resistance.” He emphasised that the Maoists were left with no real option than to take up arms. “What are we telling them? Either surrender your land or pick up arms. What do you think they will do?”
Questioning the lack of space for dissent, he said: “If I support their cause, I can be hauled up by the state under Section 39 of the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act [used against pro-Naxals]. So here I am, in a way challenging the state,” he said.
“The problem is we have stopped asking fundamental questions. Do we ask why are they raising this war? Why has armed revolution become acceptable among the tribals? Government reports themselves admit that the task of land reforms is still unfinished. The glass is not half full or half empty, but two-third empty. Eighty per cent population is at the receiving end,” he said.
Indian Maoists need to learn important lessons from their Nepalese counterparts. “They should first establish military power and only then bargain their position. In Nepal, 80 per cent Legislature consists of Maoists, but look at the difficulties that are created for them.”
He refuted any claim that Indians are by nature non-violent. “We are a bunch of hypocrites. When there is armed conflict going on in 235 districts out of 636, how can we say that the country is peaceful? If 47 per cent of our children are malnourished, isn't that violence? Isn't it criminal?”
“We need to look more carefully at government policies. Maoists can't be judged on the crimes that they have done, but on the background of atrocities against them. We have to say no to war against people,” he concluded.
Keywords: Maoist, Arundhati Roy





Comments:
In the last twenty years the progress India has made is something which India did not witness in the earlier 40 plus years. When given an opportunity, Indians not only seized and created amazing wealth but also showed the rest of the world we are second to none. People like Ms. Roy are defeatist losers who will whine and cry at other people's sucess. The MaoistS are well funded and their only agenda is to seize power by the barrel of the gun.
Due to the politicians exploiting the poor to become rich, this revolution had to come.Show me a single politician who has not become rich by joining politics.
The views are difficult to understand and are incoherant.Today these intellutuals are able to stand and speak because of their affluent past.Now they instead of showing the path of development to the tribals are coming totally in the way of their education,infrastructure development which will improve their connectivity and enhance their living condition. They want the dark areas of india to remain dark.Instead they should provide constructive suggestions to improve education,health care in tribal areas.
Arundhati Roy has been talking about the Maoist issues for years and I'm glad that she does, as she and a few others seem to be the lone sensible voices in India. Most of the people get carried away with the Maoist attacks on civilians, which the media never fails to cover every week. However, the media ignores and doesn't showcase all the atrocities committed against poor farmers of Dantewade and other rural regions where miners are grabbing every inch of land available to mine.
The people need to be protected by their govt and not left to the mercies of corporations who give pittance to these farmers and land owners for their lands in rural India.
Listening to these views it can really drag anyone in the favour of maoists. Just by opposing government we cannot come out of the imbroglio we are in. On the contrary some suggestions must be provided. If the tribals are assured of their well being do you think they would like to raise their weapons??
The article really gives the insight of what is going in the country. People like Home Minister should face and answer these questions.
The cause could be noble from Maoists perspective, but the route selected does not justify the end.
Killing/hurting/looting is not an option, fight can be non-violent as well. (We have our own history to learn from)
The endless discussions about who commits greater atrocities are becoming pointless. Each side justifies killing people. We, the common people, are stuck in the middle.
Two questions do arise for the Maoists:
1) Why blow up rail tracks and buses which are the lifelines for trade for ordinary civilians including even the poorest of the poor?
2) If they are really ideologues, why are they being bought off by some of the big corporates?
Ms Roy speaks in black and white terms and doesn't understand the complexities of development process. Eradication of poverty could only happen through industrialisation and that would inevitably displace some people. It is up to us the beneficiaries of industrialisation and the govt.to make that displacement painless, orderly and smooth. Yes, people should be treated with great care and sympathy. And when the industry and govt neglect their duty they should be punished by law rathter than the Maoist guns or Ms Roy's tirades.
Will the need of bauxite be replaced by some thing else....? No ....A much more mature remarks are expected from the personalities like her. Let them come up with a solution for the problem rather than just blocking it anyhow.
Its the extreme of everything now. People inside your country brutally kills innocent peoples and the politicians as usual taking everything casually and are blaming each other govts. Centre blaming the State govt and State govt blaming the Central govt.
If Maoists are fighting for the cause of the tribals then why they take money from the contractors in the jungle and let them continue their work. The contractors continue their atrocities on the tribals by paying the Maoists their share.
Non Violence is only the weapon to succeed for any cause. No body realized the power except Mr. Gandhi. If Maoist's follow non-violence path, I am sure they will get hell lot of support from all quater's. Please please follow this and feel the power behind it.
Problems of devlopment with equity and environment protection are issues of day , they are not confined to tribal belt only . Naxals must come out with their vision on these issues.Naxals are pursuing tacticks of warfare to capture power and present problems of tribals, State and need for devlopment are used as strategy. We should not confuse it with ' love or sympathy for tribals' . not a single company or contractor has left the area because of Maoists!
If the Indian Government can prove that the whole Government set-up is non-corrupt, then I will not say a single word in favour of Maoists. As of now Maoists and Govt, both are agent of death and destruction. Both need to mend their ways.
If Maoists think that they have popular support, they should also make a political party and contest elections to form government of their own in the affected poor states and do good for affected people. Or If Maoists think that they already have influence over the affected area, they are under deep illusions.
You seige the lands of poor and leave them to their fate in the name of development and building of nations wealth.Does it not drive them to desperation and finally land them in violence?.Every conscios person feels very bad about our democracy.What is the wrong if Arundhati and likes give vent to their feelings
Naxalism has many ugly forms - violent extremism, killings, extortion, sabotage. These ugly forms are comparable to other forms of fundamentalism that we witness daily in South Asia. Unfortunately people like Ms Roy fail to see the ugly side of Naxalism and only talk about the idealistic side - Revolution. Our country for sure needs a revolution, but not the kind Naxalism and Maoism aspires for. We need more schools, hospitals and jobs. People running the Naxal show should close their jungle warfare schools and open more primary schools if they really want to empower the underprivelleged. Nobody can shake the might of this country, it is just too big.
Why don't they believe in the ballot? However corrupt the democratic system may be, honest politicians are always given a chance. If power does flow from the barrel of a gun, won't the person with the biggest gun, ie, the Indian state, win? Blaming only the Indian state is half the truth.
The answer to correct the mistakes is more democracy and transparency. It is our duty to insist on it, not feed into some sense of victimhood and justify murder by other names.
I agree this is a result of exploitation of the poor by the rich and polititians and I agree that we need a revolution. what I do not agree is seeing the poor BSF soldier as the enemy and killing them, instead all their aggression should be against the currupt politician or the exploiting local goons thereby sending a strong message and addressing the root cause.
The rich and politicians do not care about a few Javans killed and that doesnt solve anything other than generate awareness of the issue. I strongly believe government is a reflection of the people and just saying we are against government and causing all this mayhem is only for the political gains of the Maoist leaders themselves.
Where all do we need Bauxite? If we are serious of helping the tribal, keeping the forests we should start by following a civil disobedience movement. We all, middle class, the intellectual class can start by boycotting all the finished product which uses Aluminium...in a small way let us start by avoiding using Aluminium windows which are staple of all developers. We should insist on replacing the same with wood and plant timber in every development instead of silly grass or some other ornamental plants......Green building norms need to be modified to exclude materials which not only create environmental pollution and displaces / kills people.
As always the problem with India is its population, we need the minerals to grow, we need to mine the land, we have to displace people. But compensation is not correctly provided and surrender of land is often involuntary. I can live with surrender of land even if its involuntary, provided, the Govt. adequately compensates and goes about it in a all inclusive manner. A wonderful idea would be to not just buy the land but provide the tribal's being displaced with a stake in the mine that would come up on their land. Make them rich by providing them a share of the awesome riches their region holds. Alas its human nature to covete more for self and deny others. And with our density of population, and about 20% of the population belonging to the privileged class the rest 80% have to struggle with what ever they can lay their hands on its hard to move towards equal division of wealth especially when the 20% are the policy makers.
She has brought the truth in fore. The people of under developed regions are fighting against all odds put forth by the buyable bureaucrats and politicians. They are selling out own country. Like Saudi Arabia, income from natural resources of that region should be shared among the domestic people. If this happens then there will not be any arm struggle. People will live happily. However, unless and until the oppression from corporate houses and government exist there will be armed struggle. Nobody in this world can conquer arm struggle of original inhibitors for their freedom, prosperity and peace.
First we should understand that Ms Roy is not the person who is suggesting solutions to all the problems.She is the voice of the voiceless.When tribals are driven out of their homes and killed in the name of bringing development one is bound to ask the question 'whose development?' and certainly it is not aimed at the development of the people living there but of the corporates and certain middle class Indians whose interests are sometimes associated with corporate houses.
When can we stop this condescending attitude on the tribals regarding development?.When decisions are taken by the govt, Mrs Arundathi Roy's views should be taken into account.Writers and activists are not the solution finders they are the ones who make us think.
Givning examples of Nepal I think she is unaware of the fact that the seething troubles which people of Nepal are going through. There is a perticular section in the society whoose ulterior motives drive the entire maoist propoganda, to which authors above are party too...
Provocating articles anyways are good source of cheap publicity !!!
If a famous painter starts writing critics about space exploration, or politics or movie directed by Mani ratnam.. either he should be an expert or have minimum knowledge in that field. Just having created few paintings that was sold for millions of dollar doesn't mean he is intelligent enough to speak about each and every topic or field. The same applies to A.Roy. Just by penning down a book and getting a prize for it doesn't mean that she is rite in what ever she speaks out. Its common sense!!!!
She argues that "the Maoist are our own people and we should not wage war or put them in jail". My question is.. people who are convicted in the court and sentenced to death and life .. aren't they our own people??? Should they be released .. because they are our own people???
A.Roy's argument is .. because police raped tribal women.. thats why they are taking arms..if that is the case.. then many girls parents in delhi will have to take weapons on their hand and have to kill men in delhi, as Delhi scores highest in rape crime (one in every 24hrs).
A.Roy's argument is .. MoU has been signed with many multinational company to take resource from forest land. First point, just because tribals stay in forest, it does not say they are the guardians of forest. If you don't agree, then I will have to claim the place where I was born and brought up..My gandparents stayed in forest..So in that case..shouldn't my grandparents receive land from those forest?
ARoy's argument.... govt sold one tonne resource for 24Rs and private companies are making 5000Rs per tonne. My question is govt spent X amount of money on A.Roy...how much could she pay back ?was that a profit or loss??Does she think of private companies loss????? For example, British Petroleum company ...they have already spent 1 billion dollars on oil spill.. does anyone care about their loss???.
Over all this lady is brainless child...born at wrong time!!! In India journalism has become a business to speak anything .. you just need a few people and TV cameras..
In US, where I stay... even now a days people suspect 9/11 as America's plan.. everything is done in appropriate way. I did support Maoist once.. late 90s...because Orisa and mid India was ignored for long time...but its time to settle difference with the govt in an amicable manner.. bloody shed is enough for publicity and people have woken for this...
- from Milwaukee,US (from a poor family)
She is indeed living in a fantasy world with a child like imagination and ideals.
She is giving the suggestion to the Maoists of establishing a power base and then take over the country? Idioticy? If you were living in such a country maam you would have been put in some underground prison/labour camp or killed in an unknown genocide years and years ago before anyone ever came to know of you or your one book. This is being done in most of the nations of the world.
This was and is done on a scale of millions and millions of people in the world are in inhumane conditions and no one knows or cares about them. The facts are suppressed. I dont agree that democracy is a perfect system, but it is the best system out of everything the world has experianced so far. Its a sad truth, but as the quote says 'When you want peace, prepare for war'.
Especially true for a country like ours standing alone in a volatile region like this. Please look to the left and right, if we were not armed our existence as the 'Indian race' would have been marginalized long time ago. Able to stand up on its feet and also maintaining the freedom and dignity of its citizens.
So please before you make anymore comments which the media also gobble up because of the capitalism you hate so much. Just use your imagination to cook up a scenario of an Arundati born into a world that was 'communist like soviets or china','fundamentalist afganistan and pakistan', 'military dicatatorships' like Burma or in 'anarchy' like many African nations. I just hope you see that light and be grateful. This is a really good spot to be in.
If Ms.Roy is so Pro Maoist, why dont she stand in an election and prove that people support her view point. Furthermore, why does she not encourage the Maoist to join the mainstream and participate in elections. Nobody knows what the common man on the street thinks - Neither the Maoist, nor Ms. Roy and neither the Government. The common man really wants facilities which would enhance his standard of living. For this - some sacrifice should be made. But that does not mean that the tribals would want to stick to their way of life. The government should ask the Maoist and its supporters to contest in local body elections immediately. If they fail to garner support then they should be eradicated from the face of India. If they do get the people support, they should be provided all facilities to improve their standard of living. Let us address this once and for all.
If it is the politicians and industrialists who have exploited tribals and adivasis, how can killing scores of ordinary civilians including many from poorer sections of the society be justified by Maoists? How long will innocent victims caught in the crossfire be used as the means to highlight the cause of the aggrieved?
In a few words, the act by the Governement directly violates Article 21 of the Constitution, which includes not only Right to Life but Right to peaceful and undisturbed life. Lets take an ameteur view. Will Mr. Chidambaram give up his home if it is discovered someday there is tonnes of bauxite under the ground, when he is not being given any other home (or the Government promises to give a home, but his experience says that the Government has frequently backtracked). Especially if his home (or his land) is the only thing he has, and he will have no other option but to end his life. Maoists have not studied in top universities and are not soo "civilized", so they see a better option. LETS KILL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE KILLING US." Thus, rebels are born which the Government intends to kill now.
I wish the Government had a better track record of displacement and compensation. We would have seen the so called Maoists happily surrendering their land to get adequate compensation or equivalent land, without being harassed. Because they would have known that the benefits of this mining will also trickle down to them. Alas, this is not the situation now and few civilians are facing the consequences of blunders committed by the Government.
hats off to ms. roy.. at least some one of this modern times raises the voice of reality....everybody,particularly All pro development people should read Maj.Gen (Retd) S.G Wombatkere's article in mainstreamweekly.net of may 1st week's edition. first of all define development .. we are facing environmental problems, irregular rains, scarcity of food, rising temperature... growing diseases, decline of marals in national character... define development first
I had great respect for Arundhati. I have downloaded many of her videos and watched them. But this time, I am disappointed.
Her descriptions about the present on going brutal corporate capitalist system is wonderful, but she badly fails to provide an alternative. To achieve a noble end, means are equally important.
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