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Army raises ‘secession' spectre to counter plan to lift AFSPA

Praveen Swami
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A soldier patrols a street during curfew in Jammu. File Photo.
A soldier patrols a street during curfew in Jammu. File Photo.

But this assessment was disputed by representatives of other security forces

The Army's top commander in Jammu and Kashmir has said the country could be compelled to grant the State independence by 2016 if government plans to lift the controversial Armed Forces Special Powers Act from some areas go ahead, highly-placed security sources have told The Hindu.

The assertion was made on Wednesday in an over hour-long presentation to the Unified Headquarters, the State's top coordination body for security, by Lieutenant-General Syed Ata Hasnain, who commands the Srinagar-based XV Corps.

Army officials would not confirm the contents of the presentation, but three officials present at the meeting separately provided The Hindu with the same account of what was said.

The presentation also included a slide, which asserted that while the State people were seeking bijli, sadak, paani (electricity, roads, water), calls for lifting the AFSPA were coming from four categories: Pakistan, the Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate, terrorists and secessionists.

Chief Minister Omar Abdullah, who chairs the Unified Headquarters, interjected to ask Lt. Gen. Hasnain to leave a copy of the slide behind, so he could “see where I fit in.”

The presentation made no mention of the fact that the demand for lifting the AFSPA has been supported by Union Home Minister P. Chidambaram and forms part of the recommendations of the recently submitted report of three interlocutors

Lt.-Gen. Hasnain claimed that lifting the AFSPA would provoke large-scale disturbances which, in the context of the looming withdrawal of western forces from Afghanistan and the enhanced presence of members of the Organisation of the Islamic Conference on the United Nations Security Council, would lead to Jammu and Kashmir's independence.

The Army's assessment was, however, disputed by representatives of other security forces. Special Director-General of the Central Reserve Police Force Aniruddh Uppal said there was no evidence to suggest a large-scale upsurge in violence was round the corner.

Inspector General of Police in-charge of the region S.M. Sahai said recent events — including suspects held for last month's bombing of the Delhi High Court and last summer's mob violence — showed that future threats would come not from large-scale insurgency, but from the influence of Islamist radicalism among small groups of alienated young people.

Mr. Abdullah did not return calls from The Hindu, but officials present at the meeting said he made no direct response to the Army's claims.

He noted that a core group set up to discuss AFSPA related matters — made up of the commanders of the XV Corps, the Nagrota-based XVI Corps, the Intelligence Bureau and the Director-General of Police — had yet to come to an agreement a year after it was set up, the sources said.

On Thursday, Mr. Abdullah hinted that he would take a unilateral decision if the deadlock continued. He said the authority to lift the AFSPA “rests with the Governor, who would act on the basis of the State government's recommendations.”

The Jammu and Kashmir government has called for a phased rollback of AFSPA on a test basis, pointing to the dramatically-improved law and order situation in the state. The plan envisages that, in the first phase, AFSPA will be removed from areas of the districts of Srinagar and Badgam where the Indian Army has not been present for several years—and therefore does not need the special powers vested by the legislation.

Even though Mr Chidambaram has supported demands for the phased lifting of AFSPA, the Intelligence Bureau additional director representing the organisation at the meeting took no position on the issue.

New Delhi-based military officials refused to discuss the meeting on-record, but a senior commander familiar with Jammu and Kashmir defended Lieutenant-General Hasnain’s remarks, saying it was the "army’s job to consider worst-case scenarios and prepare for them".

Why foreign people are commenting here. They need not interfere our internal problems. & as far as those people who want AFSPA lifting up, i have a very good offer to you. Why don't you simply leave India & live at some other place or die, whichever is easy!

from:  Hemchandra Phirke
Posted on: Nov 15, 2011 at 14:19 IST

@hsn, wrong. the bottom line is India will take all measures to protect
its borders and national security, however incompetent leaders we have.

from:  harish
Posted on: Nov 15, 2011 at 08:09 IST

every one says we should win the hearts of the people in JK.

in their terms this is what it mean.

1. JK should be independent
2. every one should be converted to islam
3. sharia law will be implemented
4. it will over see the well being of muslims in other indian states.
5. and forget kashmiri pandits.

then they will be satisfied???/

from:  reddy
Posted on: Nov 15, 2011 at 08:07 IST

@Ovais Manzoor - > Which J&K people? the millions of sikhs and pandits who were chased out by terrorists and the muslims? what about them? Like how your friends in Pakistan chased out sindhi's who is going to worry about them?

from:  yavaid
Posted on: Nov 15, 2011 at 06:51 IST


from:  hsn
Posted on: Nov 13, 2011 at 14:43 IST

@all the Muslims and foreigner commenting here, Can you please suggest why were the Kashmiri Pandits kicked out? Why are not allowed back in the state? If you want peace and stability all issues concerning the Kashmiris should be addressed not just AFSPA. By issues I don't mean referendum!

from:  harish
Posted on: Nov 12, 2011 at 15:28 IST

What is the use of keeping Kashmir within India by force if Kashmiris by and large loath to consider themselves as Indians? Why should we waste our soldier's lives and money to keep a land whose inhabitants hate us? Where else in our country do we see our national flag being burned at the slightest provocation? I believe this is indeed a religious issue in reality whatsoever both sides might say. If we conduct a survey among Muslim and Hindu population of J & K, I feel Hindus would by and large choose remain with India and Muslims would choose independance. Muslim Kashmiris may not wish to identify themselves with a Hindu majority country. Punjab(Pakistan), Sind and Kashmir may have been the land of our forefathers and our once-great civilization. But we have lost them all due to our incompetence. They have new owners now. We do not have the moral right to stake claim to these places anymore. There are new owners for them.

from:  Vineeth
Posted on: Nov 12, 2011 at 14:40 IST

The Defence establishment should not fear operating in the absence of AFSPA. Already,in the name of AFSPA, so many fatal "human" errors have been committed by security personnel. I suugest it should be withdrawn atleast temporarily for a change.Like in Manipur,the Disturbed Areas Act were withdrawn from Greater Imphal Municipal Areas few years ago after prolonged public agitation.And yet there is no talk of re-imposition of the same law. Likewise, Generals should not create a fear maniac amongst their forces for operating without AFPSA. AFSPA has nothing to do with Kashmir's independence and such ideas are mere utopian. Let us give anti AFSPA campaigners like Irom Sharmila and millions of terror victims a chance to live in peace.

from:  Arun
Posted on: Nov 12, 2011 at 07:49 IST

@ PNegi I think you are being to naive to think that the army has not committed any abuses in Kashmir. Just like a majority of cops in India, the soldiers lack proper training in properly dealing with people and so beating and torture have become common place. Kashmiris are Indians, and so they must be treated according to the constitution of India. Would you like it if every hour of everyday you had army on your streets in you state?
@ Krishna - you really need to stop living in fear. You are going to make the entire state of kashmir suffer because of a threat from Pakistan? really?

from:  Abner
Posted on: Nov 12, 2011 at 02:43 IST

Military is not the solution to any problem and we have seen this in the past as well. At one moment you have to revoke AFSPA from J&K and now when insurgency is at all time low we need to try to revoke it in phased manner which will ultimately bring life to normal there. What army has done in last 50 years in north eastern states. People over there are still living under army rule, why it is that army even after 50 years not willing to revoke AFSPA. Is it that even after so many years they are not able to control the violence?

from:  Rohit
Posted on: Nov 12, 2011 at 01:19 IST

It is clear that we are keeping the Kashmir state under force. It is a shame on us. If Kashmiris do not want to live with us and do not want to call India as their home country, it is quite meaningless to keep them with us. Let us get out of Kahsmir. Let them decide their future.

from:  Samirajan
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 23:10 IST

This is in reference to the comments of Dr.Ashraf Ali ( a reader of this article). Why go back to 1950 or a decade later. Even now, many political leaders of the J&K ( why even the J&K State Chief Minister ) uses the words 'Indian Government' and not 'Central Government' leave alone the citizens of the State. How I wish that Dr.Ashraf Ali narrated how the people of the Pakistan Occupied Kashmir enjoy their so-called 'freedom' and their economic and physical well-being ( their social well-being is as per indications fare very poorly compared to their Indian counterparts ).

from:  V C Sekar
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 22:39 IST

Though exact points made by Army about lifting of AFSPA are anybody's guess it can be safely assumed that whatever has been stated is true. Who want AFSPA to be lifted - Pakistan and separatists who enjoy the patronage of Pakistan. Omar Abdullah wants it to increase his vote bank. Army has a point. But army cannot continue to remain incharge indefinitely. However what needs to be seen that what will happen if Army is fired (which will happen) at while passing through areas from where AFSPA is lifted. In such case - if army personnel retaliate and someone is killed in crossfire - FIR will be lodged and army persons will be tried in civil court for causing murder. There will be no witness to defend army persons and no one will believe their version and they will be hanged. That is the apprehension. Rest everything is rhetoric. Gen Hasnain is the best army general who knows the pulse of people far better than Omar Obdullah. Common man in the valley want 'Bijli, Sadak and Pani'.

from:  PS Randhawa
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 21:44 IST

I can see a clear divide here on the comments. All the Muslims whether they are Pakistani or Indians are in favour of removing AFSPA. They don't seem to realise the Islamic radicalisation and sheer hatred taught to the people via the mullahs and other leaders. The Hindus have been ethnically cleansed so they have no say in matters. Pakistan is a failed state, these people commenting here don't seem to realise that Balochis want complete independance from pakistan, but they would rather concentrate on India's problems.

from:  Vipul Dave
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 21:27 IST

In a matter of security, why should politics enter in. It is the professional opinion of the Army that all must respect. If they are indulging in unlawful activities, get hold of them and give them the maximum punishment. Army as a whole which is a disciplined force doesnot have any self interest in continuing to be in Kashmir. We must not forget that it is Army that saved Kashmir and thousands of Kashmiris from becoming a cannon fodder of terrorists. They did this at a huge sacrifice incurring loss of five thousand jawans. Kashmiris cannot kick out Army like this. They may need them again. So be respectful and not maintain a tone of a dictator saying "No is not an option".

from:  PNegi
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 17:37 IST

Kashmir and Kashmiris have seen trouble for 63 years since India occupied it. Indian Govt. knows that it is holding Kashmir against the will of Kashmiris and the only way they can grasp it is through AFSPA and other draconian laws. It is lame for people of India to think that if Kashmir is given freedom and if these dreadful laws are revoked, it will be pounced on by neighboring countries on wait. It seems they cannot think of no other excuse. Its simple, there is no other alternative than to free Kashmir which is in accordance to what people of Jammu and Kashmir want. Ask any tourist whether he be a foreigner or an Indian, are Kashmiri people violent, they all will say no. Then why is Indian army and other puppets assuring that the people become so. 1/4th of the land is occupied by the army and other forces illegally. Fake encounters, missings, tortures, rapes.. you name it. It is high time for intellectuals in India and all around the globe to rise against atrocities on Kashmiris.

from:  Aabid Mustafa Koul
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 17:25 IST

There nothing wrong in trying to revoke AFSPA in phased manner. Let them try it as mentioned in this article in areas where army has not conducted major operations for years. Definitely there has been improvements in the overall security scenario. Statistics prove that. And the threat that india faces is no more from secession but attack from smaller sized quick strike terrorist cells. Strengthen border survelliance and slowly we should remove this act. Giving exceptional power to military has never solved any issue in the world. They should have special power for limited period in special sitiuations. I think in Kashmir that period is getting over and we should give peace a chance.

from:  Jay
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 16:35 IST

Its wise to probe corruption in defence personals though they are branded champions of securing our borders from terrorists let us try the other side of the coin why these officrs are so pessimistic and they do not have a time bound target of clearing troubles we can't oford to keep pumping hard earned income tax to fulfil fancies and subsidies Its high time to expect one Anna Hazare among these forces I am sure you will see a change

from:  Insan
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 16:16 IST

Please remember that the terrorists are equipped with rocket launchers/AK-47s and rocket propelled grenades - there is no way the Local Police will be able to handle the terrors not until we upgrade them from the pea-shooters that they currently possess anyway. The AFSPA becomes draconian only when the freedom of press is removed from the state where the law is implemented.If the army misuses their excess power the people are made aware and lawful action is taken by the Judiciary of the country If the government wants to withdraw the law against the recommendation of the army then they must at least make sure they create a strong anti-terrorist squads under the command of the Inspector General of Police of the state, strengthen the Border Security Force and for Gods sake resolve the border issue with Pakistan before making such rash decisions so that these politicians will be elected for the next term.

from:  Karthik Sekar
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 16:00 IST

Of course, without AFSPA, no Kunanposhpora mass rape, no Pathribal, no harassing, humiliating and denigrating of Kashmiris, no fake encounters, no easy promotions, no special perks, no fear of judiciary, no winning over of kashmiri hearts and minds and of course no solution to the Kashmir imbroglio. That is what the Army wants, plain and simple.

from:  Ahmad
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 15:58 IST

This Army statement clearly tells the world audience that kashmir is with India only due to this draconian law. The hearts and minds of kashmiris are not and were never with Indian. They have alaways talked about "Kashmiriyut" not Indians. India should accept the reality that Kashmir is not an integral part of India as Gujrat and other states are. Please let Jammu & Kashmir go. Stop spending hard earned money of Indians in defence expenditures. Jammu & Kashmir is not India. India is not Jammu & Kashmir. Has this been sorted out just after partition both India and Pakistan could have saved so much money. They might have become a developed nation. Britishers left this crisis so that these two countries waste their energies and wealth in fighting with each other. Hopefully India does not listen to Bush that China is India's enemy. Countries prosper if they have healthy and friendly relations with neighbors. Bush destroyed American economy by wasting trillion of dollars on stupid wars

from:  John Hoffman
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 15:58 IST

Revocation would mean the impunity will end and they are worried to face the crimes against the citizens they have comitted...Army Or No Army there's little conviction required where there's a Cause.. Just like the India had when British colonized.

from:  Rafique Banday
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 15:44 IST

Army doesn't issue statements out of their own will, neither do they have any ulterior motives like our politicians. The Army needs to be respected as they are the ones guarding the border round the clock and they know of the ground realities unlike those sitting in posh bungalows and given 24 hours security! All politics played by Omar and his Party! He has no right to supersede the Army!

from:  Chandrika
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 14:53 IST

I wonder why Army is the only institution that feels AFSPA is necessary in the Valley. I've always been skeptical of our Army's understanding of strategic issues.

from:  Manpreet
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 14:48 IST

This is in effect clear confession by the army that Indian state has failed to douse the Azadi urge of the Kashmiri masses as was demonstrated by the people through peace aggression during 2008 through 2010.The simple question the middle class,who are prime movers of the current economic boom,must ask the strategic community as to how long are they going to waste their hard earned money on an enterprise with no returns what so ever?The kashmiris are in no way settling for status quo.The conducive atmosphere prevailing for settlement must be grabbed by both hands.

from:  Er S D Shangloo
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 14:42 IST

"Starting a new life in Kashmir, ASFPA must be revoked not only some districts in Kashmir even from whole J&K, may be different is really hard. But It's normal to feel on this way. I don’t think ARMY needs any permission to kill any Militant when both ARMY and Militants will be fight face to face, ARMY does not need any warrant to kill the armed person on that stage , now what is a fun to make whole Kashmir under siege of ASFPA.,

from:  Yasmeen
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:59 IST

If we look back to contemporary history of modern India, it will not take much time to arrive at the following conclusion. Whenever Congress went out of power, it gifted India some political instability. It want to complicate Kashmir problem more than before so that when out of power, it can raise a finger to the the ruling government.

from:  Anil Karn
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:58 IST

This is a very grave assesment by the army of situation in Kashmir. It means Kashmir is with India only because of army & draconian AFSPA?? Also it means that ISI, LeT & handfull of separatists can steal away Kashmir against the wishes of 1 crore Kashmiri awam, 1 billion people of India & 13 lakh strong armed forces of India???? Wow? However I doubt!! I have seen generals living like Maharaja's of Kashmir with powers greater than democratically elected govt. Just like Pak army no general of any army will let go of the hen that lays golden eggs (powers like AFSPA without resposibility/answerability to the people/awaam). However I trust Indian democracy is much stronger to be scared of fear scenario painted by generals.

from:  Shaleen Mathur
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:54 IST

If any tourist who has stayed in the famous boat house on Dal Lake in Kashmir Valley in the tranquil period of 1950s & 60s cares to recollect the oft repeated words of "HINDUSTANI MEHMAAN" by the boat house owner, he can understand the common man there did not feel himself part of India. The common man in Kashmir Valley is more alienated today. Calling J&K as integral part of India is meaningful only when the hearts and minds of Kashmiris are integrated with India for, J&K means its people, not the real estate. The first step towards it is to deny the chance to rogue elements in the Security Services to hide their rapes and fake encounters under AFSPA.

from:  Dr Ashraf Ali
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:46 IST

well, I don't know why army with all those power acts is needed in SRINAGAR and its surrounding districts instead they should be present in border I believe insurgency occurs on borders and not in the center of a country or a state I strongly believe that army trying to mask their incompetence by holding on to such act

from:  m.ajaz
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:13 IST

Blacks laws in Kashmir makes me feel that I am not Indian - and my case is hearing in indian court . If there is one thing that epitomizes all that has gone wrong with India's Kashmir affairs, it is the AFSPA- black law. When British tried to crush Indian dissent by passing more laws like Rowleatt Act in 1919,Gandhi start Satyagraha. What will you Suggest for Kashmir ?
Actually Indian Army exposed by interfering in lifting AFSA - So it is true that KASHMIRI never Taste INDIAN Democracy...?

from:  Dr. Bilal
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:11 IST

@Yashwanth, poster - Nov 11, 10.43 - Well said!
If we Indians want to be have a true democracy, we should support the repeal of the AFSPA which is death by a thousand cuts to the lives of Kashmiris. That it gives operational comfort to our Army does not allow us to ignore the huge everyday problems caused to our Kashmiri brethren.
We need to win hearts and minds as well. As it is, it is difficult to make a case for India in Kashmir and the ASFPA further alienates the average Kashmiri.
The bogey of terrorism has (so far) made us look at only our version of the Kashmiri problem and it is time to take a more balanced view of the situation.
The benefits of repealing the ASFPA (winning hearts and minds) far outweighs the losses ( operational discomfort in dealing with a few extremist situations).

from:  Karthik
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:11 IST

Is it that easy to make Kashmir separate from India like the General says. I surely hope its not that easy and howmuchever voting power in the UN will cannot make this happen.
Am sure the Indian army is not so insecured and toothless that few miscreants can create a Kasmiri independence.
If thats true than we need a different strategy in our world affairs from tonight. Not tomorrow, not next year, but from tonight. Is our MEA listening.

from:  albert
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 13:07 IST

I wish all these people who are in support of continuation of AFSPA lived under this draconian law for a week. They would forget all their rants. If Kashmir deserves AFSPA, then by that yardstick a lot of other cities in this country like Mumbai and Delhi also deserve it since these cities have witnessed terrorist activities, while as Kashmir has remained reasonably peaceful. It is always easy to make a case for its continuation without suffering the consequences of this law.

from:  Tariq
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 12:11 IST

It is a step in the right direction to start enjoys limitless powers in J&K which is apparent by the fake encounters that are rampant in kashmir and till date not a single so called SECURITY PERSONAl has been brought to book...There have been murders and massacre3s of thousands of innocent kashmiri's and this draconian act has to go if those inhuman people are to be brought to book

from:  Zaffer Ullah Zargar
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 12:04 IST

The statement of Indian Army's top Commander in Jammu and Kashmir testifies the fact that peoples of the State are completely alienated from 'mother' India and sooner or later the State is destined to leave India as it has been annexed sherely by brutal force against utter disregard of the aspirations of the Kashmiris.

from:  arif
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 12:03 IST

I think the army's assessment is completely not valid and Chidambram is right in trusting a duly elected Chief Minister. We should understand that National Conference is also battling the secessionists and Indian government should only strengthen their hands. If Omar is not able to achieve even a small thing like lifting of AFSPA from areas where army is not even present, it will put his credibility into question and we should not allow that to happen. And above all, we should understand that AFSPA is not a normal scenario and it has to be lifted some day if we want to work towards normalization.

from:  Mandeep
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 11:47 IST

Better to lift AFSPA. If the people of the state loves the failed state of Pakistan, Taliban, Anarchy, let them have it. Let them chose their own destiny.

from:  Abhijit
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 11:39 IST

Isn't the army publically commenting on a matter which falls in the realm of politics even though it has security ramifications? Is this proper? This subject is good for an informed debate in the country.

from:  K.Vijayakumar
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 10:53 IST

The AFSPA should be repealed as it is very draconian. The army should protect the people but because of the excessive which they command they make the life of people living in JK even more miserable.

from:  Sathesh S
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 10:54 IST

Of course the army wants the AFSPA to stay - they don't want their license to kill revoked lest they be taken to court for their fake encounters and heinous crimes against humanity. The Army belongs on the borders - not inside our homes!

from:  Farhan
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 10:45 IST

It is highly distrurbing to read this article -- the extent of paranoid mindset in certain personnel in the security forces is clearly evident by Lieutenant-General Syed Ata Hasnain's flawed assessment. Do these people don't want any goodwill to come about in the minds of the Kashmiri people?

from:  Yashwanth P
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 10:43 IST

Army high command in J&K can be considered right for this suggestion,but simultaneously they must know that at ground level how many rapes and killings have been done by their men using this act. So , the act has to go in the larger interest of j and k people

from:  Ovais Manzoor
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 10:34 IST

I think this is one of the greatest success of ISI and Pakistan's state sponsored terrorism that they have compelled Indian institutions to think that AFSPA is not an optimal solution. A systematic cleanup of the Hindu population, radical islamicization of the valley and subsequently provoking our own people against us(using hurriyat and other pseudo non-violent organizations) has been a trademark success. Fortunately,for ISI, the Indian media,an incapable government and the interlocutors also are giving in to such wonderful plans of ISI. They should be happy by now!!!

from:  Samit rao
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 10:05 IST

There should be a code of ethics for the media on the options to throw open for public debate/comments sensitive subjects that govern the security of the Nation. Continuation of AFSPA or otherwise is a national security related decision and the various opinions of the parties directly involved should not come to public domain. The views of the General, Head of the XV corps need not be made public.Such inputs are necessary to debate and arrive at a viable decision; when exposed to public domain ill-informed individuals and vested interests tend to vitiate the decision process and lead to compromise on the most optimal solutions.

from:  M.R.Sampath
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 09:49 IST

Everything is for our good, says the maxim. But Political experiments are also natural in a democracy and Defence forces have to go ahead with their strategies in performing their ultimate duty of providing security to the nation with the help of high technology. Infiltration and smuggling must be brought to zero at any cost.

from:  Vyas K Susarla
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 09:09 IST

Some specified areas where law and order had improved drastically in the past years deserve the lifting of AFSPA. Lifting AFSPA from those areas does not mean that, if situation demands, it cannot be re-imposed again. For maintaining law and order the responsibility does not rest with the army alone and for the dawning of peace and stability in the valley right now, army alone cannot take the whole credit. There are State police, CRPF, State administrative machinery, public leader and the citizens who also should be credited for their contribution for the return of peace and stability in the whole valley. Areas from where AFSPA would be lifting, let the State police take the whole responsibility for maintaining law and order and relieve the army from those areas. In this way it will not affect the army's apprehension also. For prospering peace and stability, the tough laws alone will not yield the result but must win the hearts of the people.

from:  Philip Ngwazah., Taiwan
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 08:53 IST

One thing must be crystal clear - the West no longer has the appetite to suppress terror groups in the Afghanistan-Pakistan regions single-handed After the withdrawal of the US forces Afghanistan might very well witness renewed extremist activity. Kashmir is on the agenda of those extremists. Even with NATO forces baby-sitting the Afghan govt, there have been several doubts as to how much influence Mr Karzai's govt has outside Kabul. Pakistan has already shown that radicalism has spread, even entrenched itself, very deeply into all the arms of the Govt establishments. So unless we want to make a free gift of Kashmir to those who want to see it free of India, I would suggest a very careful weighing of all these factors.
For what its worth, I think instead of withdrawing AFSPA we should set up a commission, chaired solely by security experts and co-headed by an intelligence expert, a SC judge and a Human Rights expert, to examine the application of the AFSPA.

from:  Aritra Gupta
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 08:26 IST

Anna Hazare was right in calling Mr.P.Chidambaram a mischief maker.He has created enough trouble in Andhra Pradesh. Now his sights are set upon J & K so that we will have more trouble. The only reason for all this is that he can never become the PM as the Yuvaraj is waiting on the sidelines to be crowned. By creating all this instability he will make sure that the Yuvaraj will also not become the PM.

from:  S N Iyer
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 07:55 IST

Yes, The Lieutenant General may be right as he is the in-charge of the Area which is under AFSPA. Also he may have some inside information. He is very much true in pointing out that Pakistan,ISI,Terrorists and Sessionists are the ones who demand withdrawal of AFSPA as it will be easy for them to achieve their objectives. Despite all these facts finally only the political decision will be considered which in all probability will be wrong.

from:  Narayanan K
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 07:47 IST

Well we have a Prime Minister who says Pakistan's PM is a man of Peace,HM who has been a blunder master cooing in,Kashmir CM Omar saying the state has a right to revoke, and then a few officers toeing them with an eye on waht! Vote Catching game !Now what have you achieved with regard to Mumbai attack ? What answer can they give to those who suffered killings of thir families ? Are these Naton's Privileged protectors willing to surrender themselves to Life long imprisonment if any body dies in Kashmir after the lifting of AFSPA ?

from:  ramakrishna
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 03:31 IST

I am taken aback by the orchestrated attempts being made to withdraw the AFSPA against the recommendations of the military. The country faces a terrorist threat from Pakistan. It cannot and should not do anything that might help the enemies of the country.

from:  krishna
Posted on: Nov 11, 2011 at 02:50 IST
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