When Pavitra’s Delta Air Lines flight flew into Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport on a crisp blue July morning back in 2008, her heart pounded with excitement. Though it was a dangerous time economically and few companies were hiring, her husband landed a good job with a major IT firm and was assigned to projects across the U.S.
Pavitra, who had a bachelor’s degree from India and some work experience, had made a careful plan to embark on a course of higher studies — permitted under her current H-4 visa — and then seek employment. It was all coming together for her, it seemed. But she was in for a rude shock.
Within months of her settling down in a strange new land, she found out that not only were higher studies a financially draining option, given the lack of funding for spouses of H1-B visa-holders, she was also unable to pursue a graduate programme because with her three-year Indian undergraduate degree she was not considered eligible for graduate enrolment in the U.S.
With a paucity of viable alternatives, she turned her attention to the job market, an effort that proved even more futile. “I tried applying for a job but as soon as the recruiters came to know of my H-4 visa status, they would say they do not sponsor H1-B,” Pavitra said.
Matters then took a turn for the worse. Trapped in a labyrinth of visa-related restrictions, she began to feel she had no purpose in life. “I started going through depression, loss of enthusiasm and self-esteem. I started having chronic migraines every day,” she said. As migraine attacks went, hers were so severe that she could not even open her eyes, often threw up, and had chills.
“I had to call my husband every day at work, saying I am ill and he used to come home running. Life for him was very difficult, juggling between work commitments and my doctor visits,” she said. He was unable to look for better work opportunities since he was worried and wanted to look after her.
Now in the midst of a mind-numbing routine of hobbies, she asks herself: “Where am I in my life today? Still a dependent, still need to start my career fresh at this age.” And her future looks cloudy too, as it is a shaky prospect to start and raise a family on a single income, and whenever she tries to get back in the job market, “getting back my self-confidence, independence, self-esteem... [is] going to be a struggle for me.”
If Pavitra’s situation were an idiosyncratic case of misery in the wilderness of American suburbia, it may not be a collective concern. Yet that is not the case and, to be specific, 1,00,000 to 1,50,000 people, mostly women, from India, other parts of Asia and the rest of the world are stuck in this deadening reality of joblessness and social isolation, rapid erosion of self-esteem, and attendant toxic malfunctions in their personal lives.
Let’s step back and consider the facts and numbers in question.
The issue of H-4’s debilitating impact on its holders is not a new one. In fact, writing on cases of abuse of H-4 women by their H1-B husbands in The Hindu in 2008, Shivali Shah, a New York-based lawyer, explained that the U.S. Customs and Immigration Service does not provide H-4 spouses with work authorisation until well into the green card process.
There is no prospect of working on the H-4 visa per se. The State Department’s guidance on a range of non-immigrant visas notes: “A person who has received a visa as the spouse or child of a temporary worker may not accept employment in the U.S. with the exception of spouses of L-1 visa-holders.”
“Therefore, these women are financially dependent on their husbands for anywhere from two to nine years,” Ms. Shah pointed out, adding “H-4 women are middle-class and have status in the U.S., but immigration laws can make them indigent and undocumented at the whims of their husbands.”
So how many individuals are affected by this law? Since around 2004, the USCIS has set the annual cap for H1 visas issued at approximately 65,000. Even if one were to conservatively assume that 50 per cent of these visa-holders were married, it suggests close to 32,500 spouses or partners on H-4 visas a year.
Given that the H-4 visa is often of six-year validity, it would not be far off the mark to assume that there are well over 1,00,000 individuals stuck with this visa, possibly over 1,50,000. Further, the most recent USCIS data quoted in a study by the Brookings Institution suggest that 58 per cent of the H-1B visas are granted to Indians. This means that well over 50,000 Indians are in this position.
This includes only H-1 spouses. There is a host of other visa-types, for example, I-visas for journalists, all of which are subject to the USCIS work ban for their spouses — except L-1s, usually issued for senior executives who are on intra-company transfers from other nations. If the spouses of visa-holders in these categories were also counted, the number of frustrated, but often talented, individuals unable to work would perhaps grow exponentially.
To truly come to grips with the intensity of the problem faced by individuals trapped in the H-4 visa quagmire, a glimpse into the corrosive nature of the visa’s work restrictions is useful.
Rashi Bhatnagar, a H-4 visa-holder in the U.S. who was willing to have her real name used in this story — all others have been changed to respect privacy concerns — set up a Facebook group called ‘H-4 visa, a curse,’ after facing the deadening reality of joblessness, having enjoyed years of a successful career in India. Though she had a master’s degree from India, she had numerous doors of opportunity slammed on her in the U.S. after she had to relocate to this country to join her IT-worker husband.
However, Rashi counts herself among the fortunate few, whose spouses have a senior role, some leverage with their employer and hence some hope for flexibility, such as an early or expedited green card application. For most other “H-4s,” the mathematics of the waiting time for the right to work is debilitating, killing off their most productive work years from their late twenties to late thirties.
In the EB2 category of temporary, non-immigrant workers, a H-4 visa spouse would typically wait for six years before a green card application is made and then potentially another six years for the issuance of the green card. This makes a total of around 12 years, time spent languishing in the aisles of Walmart, making small-talk with vendors on street corners, engaged in the soul-destroying household chores and the limited joys of child-rearing.
In the EB3 category, the six-year wait for the green card process initiation is compounded by an even longer eight-12 year wait for the green card itself, requiring the H-4 visa-holders to hold their life in suspended animation for a staggering 14-18 years. Over the passage of such a length of time, all hope of resuscitating one’s passion to pursue a meaningful career is likely to be extinguished, with only a sense of lonely desperation left in its wake.
Keywords: US visa restrictions, H-4 spouses, Indian women in America, H1-B visa-holders, H-4 visa, non-immigrant visas, green card application, job market in US




Even I've been on h4 visa since 2010,but I didn't go through any mental trauma as described by the author.Whenever I came to know I have been rejected from a job offer just bcoz I am on H4,I feel so dejected.But I can firmly say I am enjoying a lot here than being in India and being separated from my sweet hubby.You've lot of places to travel over here and spent time.If you are a computer geek ,you've 24*7 high bandwidth broadband available,whatelse u want as a computer geek!you can do some online courses 4 free n update ur knowledge.On week days I spent my time on this magic web "internet" to learn many things and b in touch with my frnds back in India and explore new places with my hubby during weekends.So it all depends on how u live ur life n how much support you get from your spouse.Think about those people in some of the middle east countries who doesnt even have right to go out without a burka.h4s r far better than those ppl.So dont curse on being on H4,better enjoy d days here.
More than the article, the comments are a goldmine for anyone interested in the
issue. First of all, diagnosis of depression is very common in India because almost
everyone would have one form or the other of it. Let us look at the benefits of being
in the US on a H4 visa: a) Your spouse is qualified and has a decent earning potential.
Be proud of that because lot of jobs offered in other countries do not allow the
luxury of bringing your spouse along with you.
b) All H4 children attend FREE schooling until 12th grade anywhere in USA.
Try this in India and you will never again complain about American school system.
c) Some of the bright kids who won spelling bee or math olympiad or similar
competition were on H4, nobody stopped them. I have never heard a kid from
another country win a national competition in India. Level playing ground?
d) Many organisations like Melinda Bill Gates foundation to Habitat for Humanity
organise trips to India for volunteers. You can work and help fellow indians
Why do you expect US government to accept a 3 year Indian degree when
US undergrads have a 4 year one? Moreover, if you visit any
university website the prerequisites for admission to masters is a 4
year undergrad degree, GRE and TOEFL scores. Not sure what kind of
"careful plan" she did?I have a masters degree from US, few years of
work experience and now I am jobless because I had to move to a
different state. I am on H-4 now and finding it tough to land a job. I
am taking certificate courses just for the sake of it. I have a friend
who has an undergrad degree from India and masters degree from
Singapore but still after moving to US she had to take another masters
degree so that she could land a job. Life is not easy here and getting
a job is highly competitive, so instead of crying and whining about
it, just engage yourself. Just because you married a person working in
US don't expect your life to be a bed of roses. US rules are CLEAR.
RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH before immigration
"engaged in the soul-destroying household chores and the limited joys of child-rearing"
So women who choose to be full time moms and make their children the centre of their lives are idiots? Society is headed for disaster if all women en masse choose to neglect their children and instead wish to be like men. Women's empowerment does not mean turning them into men! Maybe we will realise this only when it is too late to save humanity from falling birth rates, broken families and delinquent children who have grown up without parental love and care.
Very good article. As many commented before me , India is a good place to live with a job and honour and self esteem. America is no paradise and the young girls should realise that opportunities are great to unleash their potentialities here in India than in someone else"s land
Anyways I think the Indian government should engage with US on a diplomatic level and ensure that proper reservations are in place for the spouses of H1 B visa holders in both the Job and Education level.
A lot of comments surprisingly support US immigration policies and their visa
structure. US unemployment is not created by indians. US is run by multinationals who outsource their work to cheaper sources like China and India. These corporates benefit immensely as a result.
Globalisation is a ploy employed to siphon our resources and unfair trade practices maintain the flow towards US. US has to share its prosperity with poorer nations and downgrade its affluent life style. US and Europe can't expect rest of the world to stay poor for ever, and world peace doesn't drop from heaven by the dictates of US and Nato. Obama wants India to open up and allow american corporates to exploit our financial sector. He is not too keen to ensure a level playing field for professionals from India to live and work in US. Indian mindset has to change and instead of siding with the unfair policies of the US, we should fight for a true globalisation where all the nations in the world grow >together.
I find many of the comments and the article itself funny, blaming the US - there are also a lot of misconceptions; the NIW does not take 14 years. I can say this from experience having written letters of reference for a number of people over the past few years supporting their applications for a green card. The most I have seen is 2.5 years. The law states plainly that the H4 dependent cannot work. All applications to schools do say that if you are coming from certain countries a three year degree will not be sufficient to enroll in a grad program. In my university, a MSc from Nepal is not sufficient for a grad program (happened to one of my physics students). The American dream is not dead - you have to know the rules.
By choice H4 chosen this path of no employment then why this cry? If they feel this way why apply for H4 ? why not shift to India and ask sposue to move to india ?
Live and leave other to live...
I brought my wife to US with a H4 visa and a 3-year Arts degree.
She was also not able to find a job because she did not know how to drive, did not have any sellable qualifications. However, she was able to go to several free computer classes that the employment offcie offered and landed in an Indian company as a Office manager processing, took more classes at community colleges and got a certificate in HR to eventually became a HR manager.
If you put your mind to it, willing to work for it, you can do it in USA.
This article is one sided. Must see people in my town who are
born and brought up here, with no jobs, struggling to bring up
children, balance family and job search. Many of them are
sleeping in their cars/rental vans for lack of funds to make home
mortgage payment. Mind you, these people were regular tax payers
right from day one of their life, as their parents' income was
also taxed. I have nothing against H1/H4 visas, but people
with lesser level of education, sometimes with fudged resumes,
come and take away the jobs of people who are to be legally
entitled. In India, the sons/daughters of the soil value base
makes a greater issue. But here,in US, when a native of the land
is devoid of the job and an outsider is hired right in front,
then the issue becomes blazing. As a family, like in India, there
is no buffer zone. Actions and Consequences is the rule.
I am living in USA for more than 20 years and have seen many successful families where they have 1-2 kids before green card and also the wives does some graduate program during evening while husband watches the kids. Once they get green card the wife gets a job by which time the kids start attending school. It is a bit tough for 3-4 years. But it all depends on how one takes the marriage life. Also all this H1/H4 stories etc are widely known in India, so a woman can decide whether she wants to comes to US as a wife under H4 or not.
Biased and misinformed article.
Married and in USA
I wonder why this girl Pavitra or who ever did not discuss this with her husbsnd-to-be or did not search on the Net what was in store for her in US. Was she thinking she was going Bombay or Delhi to join her husband after marriage?? It was entirely her own making.
It is very interesting to read above comments. It sounded like most of these commentators are working in US and they know very well the consequences of competition if the dependents are allowed to work. I think author has a good point in bringing up the important problem faced by so many H1 visa dependents. I genuinely think this problem needs more attention.
I agree with the comments made on excessive offensive language and author looking down on the house chores. Totally un-necessary and too biased.
The person with a 3 year degree should have known all the rules before landing in America if she is really planning her life that well (as mentioned by the author). How can anyone be destroyed if they are not able to work in the US? Is that the only dream? Lesson learned is one should have a fall-back dream if the first fails and do not end-up with migranes (assuming failure caused it).
I agree with the other point author is making that there are rules which do not make sense when you are talking about one of the best countries. But.. but it is their country... take it or leave it. It is that simple.
I am still going through the hurdles of getting a greencard for so long that anyone can imagine but that is besides the point. I know the pain. Just to let the readers know on who is making this comment.
Peace!!
Nothing prevent an H4 holder to change status to F1 (student), pursue
a higher degree with plenty of access to funding, and seeking a job
after that. The CIS grants temp work permit up to 29 months for some
select areas (maths, science, technology, and engineering are among
them).
As someone with a 3-year bachelor's degree, the person would be
required to study an extra year of undergraduate courses before
staring a graduate program.
Your visa status can be a misery only if you chose to limit your
options.
What's wrong in being a home-maker? For new H4 visa holders, the earlier they have a kid, it is easier for them to have their 'spring time' enjoying the growing years of kids. Life in the U.S. is certainly good. Everything is open and clear - by and large, no hanky panky in dealing with any one, whether government agencies or otherwise. No racism could be found anywhere. All laws are respected and followed. We can expect things to happen as they should. If we can try to get acquainted with the neighbours, Indians or otherwise, it shouldn't be too difficult to adapt to U.S. life. If one wants to have a career only and not a home life, it is better he or she doesn't choose to go to U.S. - as simple as that. In any country, there are rules and regulations which all immigrants are expected to follow. Ultimately, life is about choices.
Timely thought and timely taught. Indian men who finish their graduation or further higher studies in US would like to work in US and they require Indian wives. Most women from India fall prey to such US men (sorry for the language 'prey') and forced to remain for ever 'house' wives. These men are also particular that they want to marry women from India in India and bring them to US. It is a different story the parents of such Indian men and Indian women do not make proper choices for their children. If this continues for some more years, one would see a jump in divorce rates among such Indian couples in US. Why make wrong judgement in the first place? Indian men should get married only to such women who can make themselves employable with appropriate visa or enter US for further higher studies and then get married. I also came to know some of these US men and their parents do not prefer Indian women studying or working in US. May be their fear is these women may prefer better men!!!
What are these women cribbing about?
My wife is American. When I met her, she was fighting to get by on $8 an hour with no health insurance and no welfare benefits, as she couldn't afford insurance and was not eligible welfare. Even I couldn't find employment in US, so I returned home and brought her with me. Here I can earn a decent salary and provide her with middle class lifestyle, and I mean mid class by Indian standards-we don't even own a vehicle!
My wife has been in India over 2 years and despite the inevitable exposure to Indian bureaucracy, corruption, pollution, problematic infrastructure and backwards individuals-stuff that make Indians flee-she has adapted to her environment. Not once has she summoned me from work for headaches, and she's not had any psycho meltdowns. She doesn't make silly demands and she even says "thank you" for what I'm able to provide and makes me feel appreciated!
These H4 wives need to grow up and be thankful for their blessings.
I presume people who go to USA are conversant with English. All it
requires is an hour to get comprehensive information from the web
about various categories of US visa procedures. Nothing is hidden and
every thing is extremely transparent. It defies reason that one need
to go there to understand the rules and complain. Or is it that
people go there with a twisted idea of some how manage a work permit
visa through dubious means like getting almost any thing done in
India?
This is a poorly researched article. A superficial view of few middle
class married women who travel in a H4-visa to spouses working in IT
cannot represent the bigger pool of women who are here and have been
successful in their careers.
All those women who are described in the article, in general, have
little knowledge about the ways of USA and do not learn anything after
several years of staying here. Such ignorance will lead to decline of
health and interest in life irrespective of where they live in the
world. To blame the system for not providing them the permanent
residency for their demise reflects the bridled thought of the
housewives and author.
I was doing a PhD, my wife came on a F2 with work experience in India
of 5 years, she volunteered for 6 months, got into a masters program
due to it, and has been on her own H1b for several years. USA provides
the opportunity to stand on their feet for those have the ability to
do it.
There is nothing new in the article. The U.S. visa rules are crystal
clear and it is for the people who decide to go over there to study
every aspect of the visa rules before taking a 'plunge'. It is a myth
to get the feeling that majority of the people, if not all, who had
gone to the U.S.A. have jobs which commensurate with their
educational qualifications.In short, it is for the well-educated
people in this country to think twice before taking any hasty decision
to go over to the other side of the world, which obviously appears
very green from here.
I can only laugh at this article. If you think being on H4 is a curse,
stop marrying people who are on H1. "...engaged in the soul-destroying
household chores and the limited joys of child-rearing". And I thought
motherhood was the greatest honor for a woman! Why do "dependent" women
have to loiter around in Walmart or other shopping mall aisles? Why can't
they start reading books? Why can't they form a group and work on a common
cause with NGOs? Why can't they learn an art? Why can't they improve their
skills? Free Online Education is quite common today. "Dependency" is a
psychological state. If you have a loving husband to take care of you,
does that make the woman any smaller? Didn't women in an earlier
generation who were dependents live happily? There is a difference between
Education and Enlightenment. Unfortunately, the former is no indicator for
the latter...Seems like a marriage is a mere contract...Hope some wisdom
dawns on people...
Nice to read an in-depth and original article. The fact remains that the h4 status is a choice
made with known consequences. There is an option to consider volunteer work or self-driven
work that still keeps your talents up to date. Some spouses may also choose to be home
makers - contrary to the statement in the article about limited joys of raising kids. Overall, it is
hard to blame US for their laws. It still remains the land of dreams for many, considering the
inequality and instability in many parts of the world.
I am surprised on this article. Unable to understand the basis of the complaint. When they leave the shores of India, everyone know what is in store. If the ladies are serious about their career, they could have well stayed in India (just like their sisters whose husbands work in gulf) and make their wonderful contributions to the country or a much better option of convincing their better half to stay in India and contribute to the progress of the nation. They didnt do either, because they need the comforts of the new world.
When a country allows immigrants to work at their place, it actually takes away the job from a native considering the overall economic benefit, which means you cant expect it to lose one more job to immigrant's dependent.
This article definitely do not deserve any consideration, even if so, not on the first page. The paper has wasted the front page cover or has no news to fill even the first page.
Look if the spouses think that this is a way to make inroads into US job market they are wrong with or without degrees. Do you know how many immigrants with acutal green cards and US passpsorts are out of work in USA??? Their lives are even more painful. Sorry to say ; no sympathy here for H-4s
"engaged in the soul-destroying household chores"
I cannot control my laugh! I know American(white)women MD doctors cook or rinse dishes after dinner at their home. Lot of American educated women work as waitresses!Indian men & women in US always say to the co-workers how they had "lots of servants & maids in India" and miss it in US. This makes others to say " then why you come to US". Educated Indians know the visa rules before they come to US.
"lack of funding for spouses of H1-B visa-holders, she was also unable to pursue a graduate program" No body is asking " capitation"!
Front page article about Indian women in US, their borken hearts over not getting jobs is shocking and left me with feeling unreal, that The Hindu will publish the article about "suffering of some 35000 house wives who are married to husbands earning in dollars in US" in front page.
What about indian women in India, who are jobless?
Do you have any idea how hard it is to get job after taking break for various personal reasons(like marriage,childbirth, taking care of sick parents/in-laws)in india?
Even professionals who have more than 3 years of experience find it very hard to land on a job.
Do you indian job market prefers only fresh graduates even with only 60% than older graduates who got more than 80%?
Just visit some job sites in india.
Why is it always there is a huge hue and cry over how indians were treated in US? Still in India parents are proud marry their daughters to indians who work in US.what about indian women who have to struggle to meet ends with single earning?
Understanding your visa restrictions and setting your expectation is very important. There are millions of H1B4 visa holders and they became green card holders and started their career little bit later. This is a story of one person who has imagined beyond her limitation. She will get a good career once she become green card holder. Good luck with her ambitious dream, hopefully not breaking her husband's dream.
Most of the H1 and H4 folks try and create an India and behave as they are still living
in India (nothing wrong if you are living India). They do not learn American culture,
they do not say Hello which is common whether pass a stranger or an acquaintance.
They watch immense amount of pirated movies.
Some of them are overly critical of Americans and their culture and what not. If you
want to have normal life, then you have to embrace the way of life of where you are
living. I am quite sure, life is lot more difficult for those who live in the Middle East,
Europe and Africa. You want to go to school, you can, would it cost money Yes,
getting over 3 year degree is a thing of the past, they need to do bit more research.
You get what you give. If you are that bored, do some volunteer work, get know
people, make friends outside of your cliche, don’t be self conscious, say hi when
they hi, smile at people, be cheerful. Goes a long way.
Most of the people went to USA thinks that they went to Heaven & forget the Human Values & our culture. Those people always face this kind of Problems where ever they go. Ofcouse USA keeping this law in order to keep US $ in their own land not to take it to india,due to Economic Crisis like other countries. So it is not new.
Thanks Hindu for publishing this interesting article. If life is so
difficult for people, why do they insist on staying on in USA? Why can't
they come back to India, get a job and a pleasant life?
Bright lights don't always mean bright future! Many from India are attracted to such foreign
lands,like flies to the flame, with dreams of prosperity, only ending in nightmares! There
seems to be a dereliction in duty of the Indian consulates and embassies,who are supposed
to be protecting the Indian citizens while they are in a foreign country. It should be their
business to find such problems and report back to the country, so that people may take
informed choices and risks! Educated people leave the country for fear of job
opportunities,poor infrastructure,tedious and corrupt buerocrats,only to find themselves
landing in isolation,degradation of their qualifications,finally ending up being depressed yet
timid in returning home fearing humiliation! It is a no win position for anyone.
Many qualified Indian woman think cooking for husband in India is a
sign of love life. They go to the extent of fighting with in laws to
share the kitchen space. But when the same lady travels to America,
cooking for husband reduces to a mere duty. There are so many ways to
make money in today's world sitting at home - writing articles for
websites, share trading etc. If a husband is problematic, it does not
matter whether he is H1B or not. Steps need to be taken to resolve
that problem. Making oneself financially independent and staying with
a demon is not the right approach.
So what is the point of your article? That H-4's are an unfairly distributed document? I don't think its unfair at all.
If you go as a dependent to another country, you are bound to face discrimination in the job field. Why should America look over their own citizens or even foreigners who have American degrees to give jobs to outsiders with no long term stake in the country? Given the dependent status, the H-4's will most likely leave the country by the time their husbands are done with their assignments in the US. Why invest in something that is not there to stick around?
If the qualification doesn't match the requirements for higher education, then obviously you cannot expect to make exceptions and allow admissions from Indian degrees (this is not the case for all, many Indians have found higher ed. possible, with grants).
So if you don't have the prerequisites then stop whining. Things won't change just on your terms.
Whose mistake is this? Whom are these (affected) people complaining against?
Why should we rush to a place which we think are not hospitable and hostile?
Such (bad) dreams turned sour are not only restricted to the US which is by far the best. Let them go to Europe and they will feel better about the US
Moral - Don't chase dreams
Good timepass article, Its true H4s have problems. But this people
came here by their choice. US never came begging to them. Everyone has
the opportunity to go back if they are not happy.
Now lets assume 150k H4s face career issues, in our country there
are millions of poor who face bigger challenges they do not get basic
rights, Where is media no coverage for them Plz focus on issues like
corruption, If our country was better managed I bet least 60-70% of
our people will come back. Especially this H4 visa holders they will
have choice to come back.
Interesting article. The phenonmenon exists in all countries and is experienced by almost all immigrants. Only sponsored immigrants escape the fate of being stripped completely of one's previous achievements. All immigrants in all countries make the painful discovery that all their qualifications in all areas (professional and private) are more or less worthless in their host country. Most of what they had learnt until the point of their arrival in the new country has to be unlearnt, to make space for the new knowledge they are required to acquire. Its like being demoted from class 12 to KG. Immigration is a long and weary process, involving many (seemingly) wasted years. One has to have a reason to emigrate; to really want it by one self. Only then is it possible to undergo all the trials and travails of immigration. Merely being married to an immigrant is not reason enough.
I am unable to comprehend what Narayan Lakshman is driving at. I remember Sivali
Shah's 2008 article and had exchanged mails with her. Her explanation precludes
this article. US authorities enforce their Law. How can we have the cake and eat it
too?
Hold it!There are several unemployed in US.Why do you want to steal their jobs?Already
people here are unhappy about jobs going to India through outsourcing.And this piece
,obviously contributed by an immigration attorney, is rubbing salt on the wounds.At least your
esteemed daily should know the ground reality.
Japanese proverb "Jibun no rival wa Jibun desu", which means 'we are rival of ourself'. We
cannot blame others for our state of affairs. We should be fully responsible for our own
success or failure. If you have failed, ask yourself what you did wrong to fail and improve on
it. Don't be bogged down by failures. Learn from failure and change your ways. To all the H-4
visa spouses, start a venture in India, don't just sit at home, use your brains to develop new
ideas, products and concepts in India. File patents in India and abroad for your ideas. Money
is not the goal. The goal is greatness and fame. Create world-class IP by using your time in
America for creativity.
H4 is not a curse. it is a blessing. Take the case of Green card holder who got married after getting green card. that is a difficult situation where the husband and wife is separated for several years
Well the American dream has shattered long back. Why just talk about
the H4? People are at least aware of the issues with H4. Let us look
at the green card. The current waiting period for a green card with a
National Interest Waiver (NIW) is more than 14 years. This is for
people who have a US MS and then PhD in area of skills shortage (IT is
excluded). These people end up taking job as post-doctoral scholar or
teaching assistant on a salary of less than 30-40K. Some of them have
a national interest waiver (NIW) and still have to wait for more than
14 years to get the green card. People who still want to pursue the
American dream are advised please understand that USA is no longer a
country of abundant opportunities, getting a job here can be an
insurmountable task because of visa restrictions and never ending wait
for the green card.
Pure BS.. The US is the land of opportunity and a place for hard worker.
India three year degrees is not valid in US. Change your own Indian
school system before to point other countries. If H4 depended feel, they
are capable and can get a job.. Go ahead and get a job. Go to college,
get four year degree and apply for job, get H1b visa. My comments are
not targeting woman. I am targeting who complains about immigration laws
I agree. Indian women (and men) who don't want to assimiliate completely into the American culture should do themselves and us a favor and stay back in India. They should come to American ONLY if they truly want to be Americanized and believe whole heartedly in the American way of life. Otherwise stay back in India. You'll be happier in your own country. And so will we.
The American dream is no more. Especially for Indians, when our country is specifically
singled out by Obama in his public speeches on outsourcing diatribe. If the most powerful
person on Earth is so biased against Indians, then guess what regular Americans must be
thinking about Indians. Take matters into your own hands, don't let others decide your fate.
Make your country of birth the best place on Earth, not some foreign land or foreign people.
The way to make India great is to be proactive politically and kick-ass of incumbent and
inefficient local politicians. Raise local awareness groups and get organized as voting blocks
to improve your own lot in your own land. Don't let netas decide your fate. You decide netas
fate and of your own. Make the new century Indian dream century. Pursue ruthlessly anyone
who hinders your progress to point of annihilation. Compromise will guarantee you defeat in
the long run. Be fearless and challenge the status quo. May God bless you and bless India
I am not sure what the author is trying to communicate here, hatred
for the H-4 visa or hatred for the Indian husband? Are the people
going to the USA not applying their minds to why they want to go there
in the first place? Is there no planning, is there no thought given to
what they will be faced with and how they are supposed to cope with
it? Is it that only exploitative husbands get to go to the USA on an
H-1B? So if the husband has or is going to get an H-1B visa then why
is the wife also not applying for a job before going? Why is she
giving up her career (which seems to be the only panacea for women
today) to move to a foreign land knowing very well that she will not
able to work?
I don't understand the author's phrases "limited joys of child-rearing" and "soul
destroying household chores" Really does that mean women who stay home and take
care of kids and feed their families are soulless and joyless? There is a problem with
getting into higher education in the U.S. Their system of education is analytical instead
of the way it is here "just learning to regurgitate on the exam paper, like parrots" What
these women should do, (and they certainly should not neglect their babies and leave
the with strange caretakers who could very well abuse them) if the women have no
children, they can enroll into community colleges (which is nearly free and open to non
americans) and get straight A grades or as near to a 4.0 top average. After the two
year completion of this Junior college, the State pays your way through graduating at
the 4 year college and you also get to skip the first 2 years but the high grades have to
be maintained..for the scholarships and grants to come in
It is more an attitude towards life issue than a visa issue. Given the spouse is earning relatively well on an IT job, the H4 spouse can use the time for a long term volunteering work and make a difference to themselves and the society, as well build experience and connections. They can also use the years to get a headstart on family front, by having children and raising them through the difficult initial years, and get on a late career. Or just enjoy the break, taking vocational classes like tax-prep, gardening,cooking and keeping fit and healthy. There is always a time to earn down the line when the right visa comes, if needed. Also, this is driven more by the desire to live in the US, make more money or stay away from in-laws; otherwise,the educated couple can always find a good life in their homeland!
Is the situation really so bad for even women with B.Tech. degrees in Computer Science and 1 year work experience in a IT firm in India, to find sponsors and jobs for getting H4 visa converted to H1B visa? Realistic comments invited, since such articles can frighten and keep away Indian women IT professionals from marrying Indian men on H1B visa in USA.
"..engaged in the soul-destroying household chores and the limited joys of child-rearing. "
Of course, for thousands of years, our mothers and their mothers had such a soul-destroying existence that it's a wonder how they could raise such worthies as the author.
This goes to show that if you fail to prepare then you should prepare to fail. I know of many smart women who had a plan in hand even before they boarded the flight. And a lot of them have met with success. The majority of women who were "rudely shocked" were actually too naive. Hindu should write more articles on how one can prepare better instead of writing sad stories.
I guess its quite an informed choice. Well educated women with,
hopefully, good employment opportunities in India give up that to be
on H4 and be in US, so that the family can earn in US dollars and also
for the pride of the NRI status back home. US already has its
unemployment problems compounded by the abuse of L1, H1 visas by the
industry, so expecting an H4 spouse be automatically issued a work
permit is naive. For a change lets expect these women to be adults and
weigh the pros and cons of moving to another country on a visa that
wouldn't let them work; there's always an option to go back to India
and find jobs. You were never brought up to build your future on
another's shoulder anyway.
What is this columnist really getting at? In USA, you cannot be employed under the H-4 Visa, though you can study in USA on H4 paying just in-state tuition.So how is this a problem for anyone? Go study, get a degree and apply for a H1 Visa. Why cry foul of America? USA is a country of rules, which so many Indians dont like or even adhere to. It is a very open and hospitable country.The fact is in the past 2-3 years, so many local kids in USA have not found jobs. Some are just working part time and some have moved in with their parents.Life is difficult as it is and here you have so many Indians complaining about America. I want to be frank here.Indians want to grab jobs in America, whether US citizens have them or not. With such Selfish attitude, you cant go far.In a Recession, will India ever give 100,000 Visas to citizens of any other country? America has done so.President Obama,who has done a reasonably ok job,is struggling with voters on the Economy and things look bleak as it is!
Kudo's to The Hindu for coming up with such a realistic story.Having been personally gone through the trauma of having a H4 dependent spouse in US.I agree 100 % with the article.US work laws are unfair for H4 dependents, while they want people to come and do Hitech jobs in their country dependents are kind of not welcome.Life of a working spouse on H4 dependent visa can be Hell in U.S.I feel there are good oppurtunities available in our country and working couples should resist the mirage of going to US on a dependent visa.
This is true. Although not a new issue, it may seem much worse than
what is explained here. An H-4 spouse is only left at the mercy of
his/her spouse. Whether the H-4 holder is male or female, if they
have had a serious career which they worked hard for, back in India,
it becomes extremely difficult to adjust in a country that doesn't
give you the right or liberty to go out and explore opportunities.
Many people in India are sadly mistaken with the American way of
living, thinking that this is a land of opportunities and freedom.
Infact you feel just the opposite of what is said. The only thing
you feel is irritaion, regret, distress and finally you end up in a
depressed position that going to take the life out of you, and your
working spouse(not to mention the arguments you have with them
regarding what marrying them has cost you eventually). Going for
higher studies is the best and only available option, in other words
those USCIS officials only want you spend, not earn.
The story is heart breaking. However, it also shows how married women fail to do home work on these difficulties and take steps to prevent it. They could complete 1st of some Master's degree in India and take TOFEL and Gmat or GRE and get admission and come to the nearby University with a student visa to join their husband. This opens up opportunities otherwise not available to these deserving girls. Also, they can do the "home tutoring" route that is being now outsourced to India. Having too much pride is not going to help them. The Indian Embassy is not helping any of them and they are too arrogant as well ignorant of these problems. So, before the hubbies move to a better middle class life in the USA do your own research and take remedial measures. Complaining to news media does not solve any problem. Be proactive and start to think like a Roman if you want be among Tomans.
Nobody forced these women to emigrate to the US. Indians who don't
appreciate following the laws of the land are advised to stay home in
that land of laws that are often broken and seldom followed.
While the article has rightly pointed out to the problems of H1-1 visa, the typical wait for an EAD card is about 4-5 years, after which the dependent can start working.Of course, the whimsical ways of husband can ruin a woman's future, but it is truly not as bad as it is made to sound here.
I for one do not follow the logic and rationale of the article,when
normal H1B visa holders are finding it difficult to continue in USA
due job-market. Time has come for ladies in India to choose between
job and marriage. Particularly job in USA. They must also learn to
run families with single income.
Mr. Lakshman has highlighted the flight of women in US with H4 visa.
But the 50000 H1 visas grabbed by Indian companies are not entirely
allotted to their men employees alone. Numerous women employees also
get a share in H1. Hence not only a woman marrying a boy with H1 visa
but also a man marrying a girl with H1 visa will also be at the same
H4 status. Everyone with H4 is entering US as a dependent only.
Getting a job and becoming financial independent may be a welcome
dream for H4 holders but it is not a right. Even in India where you
have rights of equality such dreams are not fulfilled easily. A girl
married to a person working in other city or state in our country do
not have any easy ways of lucrative jobs and salary. We have to obey
the rules not only in India but also elsewhere and more specifically
in an alien country. We may have the right to challenge any arbitrary
provisions but surely no right to dictate or seek a suitable US
Immigration rules.
it is a fact made known to the public from time to time.there are two factors that drive people to it. one --- the glamour of going to the U.S. portrayed here as a life of living happily ever after.and more importantly the second one the girl is saved of the harrassment and mental torture of the scary figure called the MIL .even the man can try to lead a life of his own and not be governed by his mother.no wonder such a large number fall under this category.it is better to be a slave to oneself than to the MIL.
I live in a relatively small town where I have come across dozens of families of IT
workers and their dependent wives and children. Many of these young women are
bright and enthusiastic. In my capacity as a leader with some standing in the
community, I have been successful in getting these young women engaged in
social, cultural and educational programs organized by our organization. Most
others are either not interested or confident. While the case of Pavitra is sad, I am
afraid her "careful planning" was totally inadequate as requirements for admission
(four year degree versus three year degrees from India) and the difficulty of tuition
waivers and students aid is universally known. A cursory web research would have
let her known what her careful planning did not. Setting reasonable expectations,
and working hard toward those goals is the solution. Not just dreaming of short
cuts and expectations beyond merit.
If this article was supposed to be an eye opener, then it is too late.
The H1B visas are meant to bring in skills in demand. If the spouses
had the right skills, they could try for another H1B.
When the economy was doing well and jobs were plenty, it was possible
to get the H1B visas even for the spouses. Now that the economy isn't
doing all that well, H1B visas are hard to get and employers aren't
too enthusiastic.
But there are numerous opportunities to volunteer in various ways in
every locality. This would help those who are unable to get a paying
job, contribute to the society and such a selfless act would make them
feel better. Volunteering would help in not only driving depression
away, but also in making the right contacts, learning local customs,
etc which would definitely help in future.
Most undergraduate degrees are four years in North America. Indian graduates except those are from IIT and leading Indian Universities are not equally qualified to a North American degree. The British undergrads are three years degrees but much more smarter than the Indian graduates. Now North American is full of highly qualified second generation of Asians with post graduate degrees from North American universities and it is not easy for Indians to compete for jobs here anymore. Further the US economy is in bad shape except Canada, likelihood of future hiring is remote.
The US immigration rules are pretty harsh and need improvements. On
the other hand there are no secrets about the rules and time it takes
to obtain green card and when/how one will be eligible to work. In
addition, the issue of 3 year bachelors program from India not being
eligible for graduate studies in US is also widely known.
It is sad and unfortunate that people are stuck in this situation but
they themselves have to take some ownership of their predicament. They
should have known all these rules (however bad they are) before they
decided to move to the states.
How can the US justify giving employment visas to foreigners when
Americans are jobless and their unemployment rate is at historic levels?
Plus the H1B visa was purely meant for those who applied to work in US.
It did not guarantee that the spouses would get jobs by proxy. They
would have to get their own H1B visa.
When in Rome, Be roman they say right? Now prepare home nicely for your hubby, take care of your children. Enjoy and be proud of your full time motherhood, a time you will never get back once you take two responsibilities (under the guise of equality) of job and home. Be queen of home and make Him (your hubby) king of it. Try to be content with what you have. What are you asking, citizenship upon reaching the JFK airport with red carpet treatment. Even americans die of hunger and joblessness and homelessness. You pay price in your life for isolation by giving up indian society. Can't have it both ways. In India, people mind too much of each other's business. In USA, people never mind each other's business (ordinary people, I meant unlike their governments who keeps minding business of others ). Enjoy the blessing God has bestowed upon that country. Take all the good you can, without being too prude.
There is a lot of broken dreams for spouses of various work permits holders whether they are from India, Asia or any other country. This type of restrictions are in all countries, including India and the US. The problem is the unrealistic hope of spouses to work and make extra money once they reach the US. The spouses are illegally trying for jobs in the US circumventing the visa restrictions. The employer will be violating the immigration laws if the spouses without work permit are hired. Hence the employers reject application for jobs from spouses. The spouses are lucky to come to the US following the work permit of their husbands. In many countries spouses are not even allowed to stay in the country. Does India permit the spouses of foreign work permit holders to work? Just a bachelors degree without experience or additional skill is a tough qualification for a decent job even for American citizens in these days of high unemployment and their dreams are also broken.
"It was all coming together for her, it seemed. But she was in for a
rude shock" - Not surprising, considering you did not do your research
before you took the plunge.
You don't need to go to America to know that H-4 visa has work
restrictions and that a 3-year bachelors degree is not enough to
pursue graduate education in the US. These things are common
knowledge, or at least something that can be researched quite easily.
If you don't have the freedom to pursue your career, you are most
definitely going to be "engaged in the soul-destroying household
chores and the limited joys of child-rearing" because there is nothing
else you can do.
My point is, research before you take the plunge on anything. If you
don't, you have only yourself to blame.
The H-4 Visa holder should come here to the with eyes wide open and
be knowledgeable about what choice the couple is making when they
accept to move here. Why are they surprised?
This is one of the reason I did not want to go there !! Pathetic
situation for the spouse!!! Only spouses without any ambition will love
to live like that or else they will end up in depression and there will
be no family peace !!
While I can attest to some of the frustrations of H4 visa holders, both parties - husband and wife, has to discuss the options in the interest of family life, instead of blaming the H4 visa. If that includes going back to India or investing in higher studies or something else, individuals should take the responsibilty. This is no different from someone from chennai with no knowledge of hindi and minimal english language skills, ended up in Mumbai or Delhi with a professional spouse. This is by no means ignoring the issue. This is a real issue which many(may be most) of the south asians, both sexes are facing.
Expecting to have a career with H-4 is not a realistic goal. If career is the goal, they should have independent H-1. H-4 holders do know the rules and limitations before they leave India.
Indian families in US have above average incomes, and a high percentage have decent white collar jobs, and most would rather have this job than go back to India where spouce can also have employment.
There are thousands of Indian families (with spouces with H-4) who are happily married, have friends, have children, children go to school, get awards, their parents visit for several months, they visit India every few years, take vacations within the US, do volunteer work, belong to social groups, participate in music/drama shows, and live happy quality lives.
A family may have hundreds/thousands of things they wish for, which they may not have - this is true in all countries. This should not come in the way of counting one's blessings and finding happiness.
It is called dependent visa for a reason. The visa restrictions clearly
mention dependents on H4 cannot work in USA. How is it logical to
expect to work in the future on H4? In my opinion it is an informed
decision people have to make before applying for H4.
6) Social isolation - It's a fact for any person in a foreign land. If
you consider Americans in India, it's even worse for them. In my
company canteen in Mumbai, I saw an American gentleman eating a banana
wrapped in roti, all by himself with nobody to accompany him. Social
Isolation is what people deal with while in foreign land. In fact,
when I worked in different parts of India, I felt extremely isolated.
Add to that, while working in Mumbai, rioters came to my friend's
building searching for north-Indians to assault them. No police ever
acted against local hooligans. Although omnipotent, discrimination in
US is met with much more justice than what I witnessed back home in
Mumbai.
7) Expectations from US government - A lot of US Citizens are jobless,
and Working free as volunteers - just to be in the market and not
loose skills. Government here, obviously wants to cut any competition
they can! Compare the sentiment with that against Bangladeshi
migrants in India!
Anyone coming to USA has clear knowledge that how US visa system works. Then I don't know why people still curse another country's system.Every country make her laws to suit its requirement.There are thousands Indians still abuse the system then make other Indians life who came here legally more worse.There are thousands of high qualified H4 visa holders who did higher studies and got work visa.First of all we need to respect host country's laws and live up to their expectation.If someone want to live with a good job , should have stayed in India itself because this is a tough time to get a job in US.
The article implies that somehow the USA had deliberately initiated the employment crises against Indians in America. I am failing to recognise where being 'Indian women' matters as this is pretty much the fate of rest of the USA.
Good news to expose. Its H1B folks decision to come USA and can not help it for H4s. America is a SAGA of TRAGEDIES even for H1s too. The waiting time period for Green card, exit country and come back not assured on immigration aspectes, people struck here without visiting India even their kitch and kin or parents die also. This line is missing in the above story. In Life, H1 and H4 achieve a green card by wait 12 years in deep depression but lose every one in India.
I cannot say the author is entirely wrong, but it also depends on the wife who comes on a H4 what she decides to do. It is expensive to study on a H4, but if she manages to get an admit with assistantship, it is not difficult to change to F1 visa and study. It all takes determination on her part and initiative to keep herself informed how to apply to universities and obtain an admit.Of course,finding a job and changing to H1 is difficult as she needs a sponsor from the company.
My wifes story is similar to what has been depicted in the article
above. Also when H1 visa is offered by USCIS to an indiviual. Are
they assuming that all the H1 visa holders will get married to woman,
who is un-educated or want to be house maker ? I think USCIS has
applied no logic here. My wife got masters in US still after having a
kid, it is almost impossible to secure a full time or contract job,
also partly bcoz most consultants are Indians and have very pathetic
way of working. Food article. Similar topic is 100,000 of Indians who
return to india from other countries do not get their social security
or whatever savings back if they migrate back to India. Per family it
is loss of about $20,000 to $40,000.
Dear author, although factually correct, your article is severely
lagging in portraying the complete picture. Please allow me to add my
2 cents -
1) Husband landed a good job - If you could portray the
qualifications, time and effort put in to get H1 visa, you may better
understand US gov's expectations from the persons they 'allow' to work
in the US.
2) Rude shock for H4 dependents - Why did they wait to look into work
prospects after coming to the US. While in India, who stopped them
from searching internet for 'H4 work prospects'?
3) Admission not feasible for 3 yr. Indian bachelors degree - by
taking extra courses, this drawback can be compensated. The real
reason is that people are not interested in writing GRE and other
exams which are prerequisite for admissions.
4) Educations costs - It's same for everybody (exception in-state
tuition fee)
5) Financially dependent - If they're so career oriented, who asked
them to give up their job, marry and go to US - US dream?
There are plenty of options for women with H4 if their goal is just
not to make money.
First of all there are plenty of volunteering options in different
fields. You will be flooded with volunteering request if you look out
for one. You can volunteer in the field which interest you which in
future can be used to obtain job once you are eligible to work. You
will be amazed how satisfying this can be once you start helping the
needy.
You can join community colleges where you can perceive you interest or
courses related your field of education. You can join most of the
courses irrespective of degree you hold in your home country.
Lastly you can always return to your home country. You always have
plenty of job in India but you have just one family.
An excellent article! Thanks for bringing out this very important but largely ignored condition of women. This situation exists not only in the US but also in Europe. In Germany, for example, spouses of research scholars or workers are not given work permit. Here language is again a greater problem, since IT workers do not need to learn German but their non IT wives cannot get even a dish-washing job without the language.
The above story indeed gives the true picture of H-4 dependent wives
in the USA. However, the situation is not a sudden shock or surprise
to anyone coming over to USA. Its more of a known fact and there are
already forums and groups online depicting this. So to anyone coming
to USA on H-4, please be aware of the true facts before proceeding
with the flight trip to this seemingly nice place. Reminds me of the
proverb - Ikkaraikku Akkarai Pachi (the land seems always green on the
other side). The truth is that, there are indeed plenty of
opportunities in India itself and if you are in a decent IT job,
living in India is the best decision.
When ever one goes thro' Tamil matrimony or Shaadi.com or any other
matrimony site for a bride or groom, you come across the condition that
the girl or boy only prefers 'US employed'. For them the article is an
eye opener.
Brilliant article. And hats off for raising this issue. My partner and I moved out of US due to
this very issue. It is demeaning that US of A takes pride in gender equality but systematically
condemens women to the mercy of their domestic partner.
- Would the writer clarify why Pavitra would think there will be "funding for spouses for H1-B Visa holders"? Lets say you are in India and the local university had a graduare program, would the husband or wife expect funding from employer to pursue the graduate program ?
-Eligibility for graduate programs: Majority of the US universities offer provisional admissions and expect potential graduate students to take remedial classes to meet the requirements for entry into
graduate programs. Don't know why Pavithra didn't pursue this with her 3 year degree.
- " shaky prospect to start and raise a family on a single income" ? This is an insult to millions of stay at home moms.
- The case made for better prospects for H4 visa holders is legitimate but the Pavithra Case study doesn't hold water. Maybe a case of unrealistic expectations and unwillingness to put in extra effort to get into a graduate program
These are facts and they are available even before arriving in the US. In a rush to America, one tends to overlook these and lands up in such grave situation. The survival kit for this predicament without buckling under pschological pressue but still run as a happy family, the non working spouse may have to put back his or her aspirations back to incubation stage for a temporary phase. While waiting for Employment Authorization, one shall make best of this opportunity to maximise gaining marketable academic credits. There is no age limit for one to work in the US. They can gain additional academic credits like a CPA degree together with an online MBA. These can easily take up to four years. With Indian degrees, the employment market is ready in the middle-east and to a very little extent in far-east, however in places like US, Australia or New Zealand, for settlement, the secondary applicant has to have patience and planning. They must allow few years of wait to come out stronger.
Well, it's evident that H4 visa holders cannot work. What exactly is the problem here? If a woman wants to work in the US, she could apply for a H1-B instead of expecting a free ride on her husband's H1-B visa.
Secondly, if all H4s were allowed to work, what would happen to people with Masters degrees in the US. As it stands, a lot of jobs that are available for fresh MS graduates is being gobbled up by H4s who have obtained a Green Card within a couple of years of their arrival.
I do not want to sound rude. But this a conscious choice by the couple/family to endure. There are plenty of IT jobs in India to comeback and have good life. Why do we expect americans to create more competition for their unemployed citizens.
First of all, these girls marry men because they are in US. And then these men want
their wives to work because car, house and money to be sent back home are very
expensive (+baby care if women work) and carries huge mortgage interests. So, they
need a double earning family. Therefore, they end up in this catch-22 situation. Why
not stretch your legs as long as the carpet is? Why not women live freely and joyfully
doing doing some arts and aesthetics living under men's income. Let the men sweat
and head the family.
People who aspire to come to the US must be wise in making their decisions. They must inquire and find out as much as they can about job opportunities, visa restrictions, educational opportunities etc. Otherwise there will be disappointments. Even if one has a valid visa, it does not mean that one can get a suitable job quickly as the job market is very bad.
People who aspire to come to the US must be wise in making their decisions. They must inquire and find out as mush as then can about job opportunities, visa restrictions, educational opportunities etc. Otherwise there will be disappointments. Even if one has a valid visa, it does not mean that one can get a suitable job quickly as the job market is very bad.
What is the purpose of this article? To influence Americans to grant
work visas to spouses of people who have H1 visas? I think it is a
very common knowledge that 3 year degrees are not accepted in USA for
admission to graduate school. Also, getting employed on a H4 visa is
very difficult since the company has to arrange for the visa plus
wait for the approval notice which takes several months. If Pavitra
did not know all of this, who is to be blamed for this? (surely not
the American embassy). This article does not make any sense to me,
when you are leaving your country to live in another world, you
should know what your options are firmly. People who are blaming H4
for their troubles are party responsible themselves for their plight.
Sir,
One very simple question. Were these women (or better still, their husbands) forced to come to the US? They come here because they want to. It's their duty to do due diligence BEFORE coming here and not gripe about visa "restrictions", which are there naturally to protect Americans. In any country, her own citizens have first right to any resource, jobs being one. Why do these women or the writer of this article think that the US could be blamed for all of their ills, including their lack of decision-making skills? Stop blaming America for all of your problems, most of which are invited.
US Immigration process is not fair to everybody. H4 dependent is a
visa clearly specified and given to dependents , regardless of their
careers. When a person is coming on board with H4 visa , the
expectations should be clear that they are coming on a dependent to
US. It will be unfair to all the H1 and F1 visa holders who put in so
much effort and invest money as students or to file H1S to the Body
shopping companies. Every one goes this process of pain in building
career in US, and in no means do i mean that every one needs to go
through this pain. One has to be prudent on the visa they come on
board especially H4 visa
You are focusing on the wrong problem here. It isn't a visa issue. The
problem is lack of support system. You are all alone -- suddenly-- not
able to handle that silence in your environment...you mind is idle and
goes to strange corridors and gets cranky..you have not focussed on
higher goals of life...many have forgotten the fundamental basis of
our culture...and when they land here they are lost. what they took
for granted they now seek in US. But alas! no hanuman jayanti, no 200
people visiting homes...diwali...no crackers...all the things they
complain off they start missing.... the liveliness of hearing somebody
sell things outside...nothing... it is sudden vaccum...and they think
career will solve this problem. Sorry. You came in search of money but
didn't realize the high price you paid with the support system you
took for granted all along. You have to start from square zero. It
takes a lot of time. That is why there are a number of organizations
in Bay area for people.
Excellent article. There is severe depression amongst the young Indian wives who are on H4. This is compounded by the life style adjustments they have to make. There is no house hold help in USA.They have to depend on their newly wed husbands for every thing. Their mobility is severely restricted as they cannot move out freely unless they can drive and have a car at their disposal. The lonelinesss and feeling of helpness leads to severe depression There is also increasing rate of divorce due to this.
Visas are nothing more than a westernised caste system. Why should governments care who works and who doesn't? Who has a right to work and who doesn't? This ability of governments to regulate human lives must be declared criminal. Same goes for Indian government. We don't need these screwed up governments telling everyone what to produce, what to do, who will study, when and where they will study. Get governments to get the heck out of the way, and human beings will get a chance to LIVE.
Every one who comes on H4 visa to USA knows pretty well that he or she cannot work unless there is change in the status. But I have seen many Indians on H4 visas working illegally for cash in gas stations and grocery stores in New Jersey. It shows the mindset of Indians.
They want to make hay while the sun shines. United States has a pretty good visa and immigration system. The percentage of Indian immigrants to USA is high and so the waiting period for the Green cards nearly takes eight to ten years under EB2 category. It is not so in the case of Britain or Germany or Australia. Already there is pressure from some of the senators to scrap the H1B visa as there is large scale fraud in getting it. Many persons from India have been caught for fake experience certificates and forged grade sheet.
The lady with a degree of three years made a choice when she chose to
marry a man working on a Visa in the US. Why didn't she or her husband
research before hand whether she would be eligible to apply for jobs
given she doesn't have a four year degree.
Having said that, the H-4 visa is incomprehensible. Given the
significant years of wait to a get a Green Card for Indian and Chinese
nationals, the H1B holder either has to have a house wife or somehow
find another H1B visa holder near his work location to marry.
I'm not blaming the US govt, its their country they make the rules.
All I'm saying is it is too hard on people's person lives.
"...engaged in the soul-destroying household chores and the limited joys of child-rearing." -- WOW! What a prejudiced statement by the author! Is this how house-hold chores and child-rearing is regarded in society today?
I sympathise with those struggling to find jobs and don't mean to play down the problems of women with H-4 visas, but surely they do their homework before they emigrate? They ought to know what they are getting themselves into, and to blame the "corrosive nature" of the host country's restrictions seems slightly unfair.
Also, this seems like unnecessarily strong language: "...time spent languishing in the aisles of Walmart, making small-talk with vendors on street corners, engaged in the soul-destroying household chores and the limited joys of child-rearing". Isn't it equivalent to denigrating women whose choice it is to stay at home and look after their children? Many of them are highly educated and make a conscious decision to quit office jobs or work from home, and should be respected for it.
Guess you are trying to make moutain from a mole hill. Almost all the indian women coming here know that there are several hoops to jump for getting a work visa. It is not that they are "trapped" or "cheated". Unfortunately since the economy is bad, every one is having tough time in getting employment visa, not just women.
A nice arithmetic on the H-4's. But, if they are all college graduates in India, they should know the limitations of H-4. If they think they can do something once they are in U.S irrespective of the visa they hold, ofcourse they run into the problems. A sea of broken dreams by choice!
Globalisation is the new colonialism. Rich countries would like to invest in developing
countries to make quick buck. They would like to have easy regulations for them to
carry away the profits and hoard them in tax havens.
Globalisation legitimises their greed and involvement in the internal affairs of
developing nations.
Indian brains should stay in India and work at cheap Indian rates, in the new globalised
world. You are not allowed to move and settle down in newer pastures. Rules keep
changing to make your life as uncomfortable as possible.
While a low skilled worker from US and Europe can afford an international holiday every
year, this option is now available to Indians working in india only once in their life time.
India has gained freedom 'politically', and unless this freedom translates into economic
freedom and a globalised financial fair play, we would for ever remain at the wrong
end.
This article is highlighting one facet of the lives of Indian wives
emigrating to the US. It is a fact that for a middle to upper class
Indian wife, no matter what her visa status is, her life in India
would be far more fulfilling and enjoyable than it would be in the US.
These women realize it quite late, after they are trapped in the US.
Hopefully, as this kind of information is disseminated more widely, an
Indian wife will put her foot down and refuse to permit her family to
be uprooted to USA. Interestingly, in the above article the author
goes on and on about the US visa restrictions - a useless exercise -
but does not discuss the option of returning to the home country
(India) or never ever moving to the US. Believe me, USA is not heaven.
If you have some money, India is like heaven!
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