A former student of IIT Madras laments the recent restrictions on life on campus and argues that it is freedom that will produce successful and responsible adults
I remember what IIT Madras (IITM) was like when I first set foot on its campus. The professors were passionate about teaching, they encouraged discussion and welcomed students to challenge them in class. However, a lot of the learning that happened in college actually happened outside the classroom. In IITM's hostel zone, life was run by the students with a strong sense of independence. There was hardly any interference from professors, and as freshies (first-years), we were inducted into the vibrant traditions of IITM student life by our seniors. The doors to our hostels never closed, the back gate of the campus remained open through the night, allowing night owls to slip out and get tea and bread-omelette after the eateries on campus had closed.
It often seemed like the campus woke up only at dinner time. Students thronged inter-hostel competitions and other activities that could go on well past midnight. There was always so much to do, and the level of creative talent on campus amazed me. There were actors, writers, musicians, sportsmen and innovators, all actively pursuing their interests and learning new skills, even if it was for the sole purpose of performing in front of an audience or for the sake of hostel pride.
I began to see that the supposed brilliance of IIT graduates was thanks not to their ability to crack an entrance exam, or even their supposed engineering or scientific prowess, but to the four years they spend in an open, encouraging environment moulding them into confident, free-thinking individuals.
There was no need at that time to restrict Internet access in hostels or increase the minimum attendance requirement from 75 per cent to 85; in spite of everything, students worked hard and performed well. There was no need to close the back gate of the Institute at midnight or close the night eateries earlier; students would often sleep after class and work at night. There was no need to threaten seniors with police action at the slightest mention of ragging; ragging in IITM, euphemistically (but perhaps more accurately) called ‘interaction' was never forced, never physical, never more than a bit of harmless teasing that helped juniors and seniors get to know each other better.
But over the course of my five years in IIT Madras, all these measures and more were introduced by an increasingly paternalistic administration, telling us when we should go to bed, whom we could invite to our hostels, what we should be doing with our free time. The only effect of these measures was not an improvement in academic performance, but a decline in enthusiasm for various creative activities, a widening gulf between senior and junior batches, and a growing trend of frustration and even depression among students.
Since last year, the administration has clamped down even harder, imposing severe restrictions on the long-standing tradition of the annual hostel nights, when hostel residents throw a party for their outgoing batch. A recently leaked email thread between hostel wardens has revealed disdain for student freedom and taking offence at students' requests for privacy in their hostel rooms. One warden has gone so far as to say they need to “generate fear” to keep students in line, and another stresses that students should keep their doors open at all times, saying “the bathroom/toilet is the only place where you [students] get your privacy”.
Finally, the IITM authorities are now discussing imposing a curfew for the women students, disallowing them from venturing out of their hostels past 11 p.m. without a male escort. With a recent rash of chain snatching incidents and assaults, the administration wants to lock up the girls at night rather than increase security at unmanned access points. The authorities' excuse that the proposed curfew is for the safety of the girl students is ridiculous, sexist, and detrimental to the interests of the ‘supposed' victims.
IIT Madras is still in some ways better off than other colleges in the State that impose far more draconian measures to control their students, but in comparison with other IITs, IIT Madras is one of the least liberal. One of the frequent arguments made by the establishment is that students need to “remember what they have come here to do”, which is only to study. IITM needs to acknowledge that, just as many of its graduates go on to excel in fields outside engineering, not all the brilliance of its graduates is earned in its classrooms. Former director M.S. Ananth used to say that in his experience, it was students with nine-point GPAs that often ended up working for the five-pointers. The democratic values and freedom that IIT affords its students goes a long way towards shaping them into successful, responsible adults. The administration of IITM needs to recognise that the more they restrict their students, the less space they grant them to discover themselves and grow.
(The writer graduated with a Masters in English Studies in 2011)
Keywords: IIT Madras, dress code




Ofcourse discipline is utterly important but it is better if ''discipline out of desire'' is practiced instead of imposing unnecessary rules. Restricting their freedom is not at all a way to create them a responsible citizen.This on the contrary makes the youth more aggressive and murderous. The free air should be their to think and grow for youth in a liberal country like India.
@saurabh sharma - how conveniently you skip the topic of academic and eca development. Apprently one of my comments have been moderated - part 2. I said that if freedom was an issue, prisoners would be excel at everything. Atleast you finally have a befitting reply to that. And roaming out at nights or not is a person's discretion. Am an adult and if I feel I can be responsible about myself, nobody should be able to stop me. My parents sent me to hostel because they felt I was responsible enough to handle myself. Same applies for all. In any case, the first point I raised was about diff timings for guys and girls which is sexist. Its like implying that women are the weaker sex, which in today's world is NOT the case. You wanna have fixed entry time each night, fine - but why the difference for guys and girls..??
@Saurabh Sharma: - it seems to me, from all your comments till now, that your only problem is lies in both the sexes socializing with each other. How sad, irrational and lacking in thought that is, is for yourself to decide. Also, I believe that it is a gross misconception that people have that it is the 'aimless liberal arts' students with infinite time on their hands who are 'spoiling the engineering students'. There is a separate entrance exam for the Humanities course at IITM, and these students work equally hard academically.
I shall refrain from discussing my personal opinion on the 'security measures' that are being considered by the IITM administration. However, I believe that it would do good if only they first clearly figured out exactly what the problems on campus were and find logical solutions to them, preferably involving the student community, rather than take haphazard measures.
Saurabh Sharma, can you please answer this: What is yours or anybody’s problem if two consenting adults have a private time inside a hostel room? Is it illegal? Our constitution gives every right for an adult to sleep with another consenting adult. So it’s the administration which is trying to go against the country’s legal system. And itsnt about being able to eat an omelet at 2 AM, but its about treating adults as adults and not as juveniles. And yeah, Russia collapsed, America didn’t.
May the Academicians at IIT Chennai read the article and assist in propogating a matured and open-minded culture amongst its students. Conservativeness and over-protection will only hamper the creativity and achievements by students. As a former student of the Institute, it pains me to know that freedom for the students is restricted now.
@Jayachandra : I fail to understand that how conveniently we assume that the western culture does not have any morals or values. I am not justifying their life style, but we need to understand that it is their way of living, and cannot simply trash it away as immoral. And with due respect to our culture, lets not forget that ours is the country where rapes are rampant and most of them go even unreported. All because that's the way the opposite sex has been brought up to look at women. Nothing more than mere commodities. Letting people of opposite sexes interact, breaks baseless pejudices and notions the sexes would have towards each other. They learn to respect each other better. And yes! trying to put a ban on the timings of the girls, you are already on the way to Afghanistan kind of set up. Lets open up to the fact that a casual chat/discussion at odd hours between guys and girls is perfectly fine. It is just a chat and nothing more as many parents would like to believe.
J. Bingi, please avoid making such sweeping statements as “westerners have no moral values”. India is among the top most in corruption. Indians are among the top most in not fulfilling commitments and going against contractual obligations. All these do not qualify as immoral for you? I fail to understand this new found Indian concept of morality being equated only with men-women relationships! Anyway, even on that count India tops the chart in AIDS infection rate! Its the “moral police” which is being immoral by demanding a peep into others’ personal life. And by the way what are so called “Indian values”? The liberal pre-colonial Indian values or the post-colonial repressive and intrusive one which many fundamental organizations want you to believe as “True Indian values”? Actually what the “moral police” of India want falls more in line with what the Talibans want in Afghanistan.
I support the IITM authorities because in Sanskrit one saying is there "Athi sarvatra varjayet" ,we are not in western countries where there is no morals values even though they have development.We are in the place where we have to enrich our knowledge.India is different and Indian culture is different,we cannot leave the girls with out protection like in Afghanistan And Pakistan.We know their "great" respect towards Ladies.Escort system is good,I will suggest administrators of IITM parallel to the implementation of strict rules plz plan more programs to induce the moral values and cultural values unique for "INDIA". "IITM the place for knowledge gaining not bar and restaurant" "Hindu" plz concentrate on IITM achievements.
Mahima,mobility of women at night involves their security. If your parents are happy that you move around at night, alone then that is between the two of you. IITM is answerable about your security. If they feel that they cannot let you out alone after 11pm this is their prerogative. Now if your parents and IITM were to interact on this issue,this would be solved.I think a simple signature by your parents absolving IITM of blame would suffice. Has this been attempted? This is the reasonable way to get a solution on this. If your parents and IITM agree,this debate goes away. This point should have been discussed by the author.You speak of independence and freedom being important - by any standards you enjoy that at IITM. Disagreement is only about night time curfew.Rules for this exist in every university hostel in the world,not merely India. So,why this Kolaveri D?
Life is about learning. Not a big phrase to quote but it means a lot.
Restrictions on learning is not something an institution like IIT should do. Only academic learning and forcing students to get involved in certain activities will only prove detrimental. The ability to take an independent decision is something that a student cannot inculcate if he is forced to do something. i do not agree with many things said in the article. Few things were somewhere around acceptable but not totally. IITs are one of the best places to spend your 5 years in and restriction due to a conservative mentality will not take us a long way in becoming a succesfull institute... I mean a 'much more' succesfull institute.
I would like to say one thing to all posters here who disagree with the author.If all these restrictions were imposed in US universities, there would have been no Mark Zuckerberg, no Steve Jobs (who was a big fan of liberal arts which is being mocked here),no Sergei Brin and other innovators.Its about time people from old India stop being hypocritical and allow true freedom.And for heaven's sake stop being judgmental
@Saurabh Sharma: How else can you criticise language except in terms of language? If not for the "dreamers" you would be just another machine.
@Comment goes to a vehement Sourabh Sharma who insists on answers yet do not ponder on the same.
You have put up a limit on freedom being exercised between 5 am to 11 pm only. You are insisting on an irony to be born this way.Your comment on Soviet Russia producing awesome technology does not convery anything because Hitler's Germany fathered three quarters of all airspace tech we use today. So does that mean brilliant minds are born in a repressive
regime ? I do not think so looking at Edison and Tesla. You seem to have a very tough time handling the fact that girls and boys of the 21st century cannot meet post 11 PM, whatever the case might be.
And also your reasonings while able to fit into a square is cracking up when being put into a circle. Intellectual discussions and great ideas do not need walls, deadlines or restricted times, literally or euphemistically.
And I am trying to understand you by standing in your own shoes. Are you a strict parent by any chance?
@Saurabh Sharma: Being from an engineering background, I understand that there are moments when you can be so stressed out that all you need is a good midnight walk in peace. All you need is some free air to breathe, while feasting over that roadside burji, which opens up at only midnight.I am sure these do not score me any extra points in my curriculum but yes! It does get the unneccessary pressure off my head at times, that otherwise could have done a lot more damage than good to me in the examination. Also, I do not understand your concern about boys meeting girls beyond 11p.m. Why is it assumed that every time guys and girls meet after 11pm., they are upto something "wrong" as the authorities call it. Why cant it be a normal chat or a random creative idea being discussed. Or do we have time frames for creativity as well now? And more importantly,why the ban on girls while moving out beyond a certain time.Get the security in place. That is what is needed. Not Saudi like treatment!!
@Saurabh: And I brought up the industrial revolution to counter your ignorant and condescending views on the liberal arts background of the author (in logic that's called an ad hominem attack and is considered bad argumentation - something else liberal arts teaches you btw) and liberal arts in general, which I see as vital for fostering an environment of critical thinking - a necessity for technological innovation. I'm not sure what your point about communist Russia has to do with any of this.
@Saurabh
It's obvious that you've never been a student of IIT Madras. Facilities have, as a matter of fact, deteriorated in the past decade. The reason for this has been the abrupt increase in the intake of students due to central govt policies, this has made it difficult for the administration to cope and is understandable. But the new rules being discussed do nothing to address the same. IIT Madras is a wonderful place, or at least was during my time there, because it enables students to cultivate all their talents whether that means doing research late into the night or enjoying a game of 6 a side football after dinner. This is how the best residential research institutions work all over the world, by bringing talented people together and letting them freely flourish. I've had some amazing conversations at 5am while smoking and drinking tea with friends after a night-out working on a research paper. If you think this is about bread omelettes, you're missing the forest for the trees.
Good one Nikhil. The irony is that most people who talk about “Indian culture” never realize that it’s the liberal ancient India (aka the present Europe) which could conceptualize innovative ideas and not the post-Mughal-colonial repressive Indian society. If you scratch the surface, you would realize that its not about which is the right approach towards making bright minds, rather, its all about having control over others’ life. Indians are obsessed with that. They cant stomach the fact that an adult–as much as he can choose his or her country’s ruler–can choose what to do with his or her personal life.And those who seem to have completely juvenile ideas over liberal arts are actually the ones who owe an explanation to the Nation for having developed such a closed mind despite the nation having spent its money on their education. India’s future is bleak if those with a stupid slavery view about what education is continue to end up in decision making positions in her institutions.
NikhilIITM, pl answer why freedom as before between 5 am to 11pm is not enough for you. What exactly is magical between 11pm and 5am? Essential ? The sine qua non for the excellence that is produced in this bewitching hour. You seem to be straitjacketed into believing that unless you can go out for egg omelettes at night, or that you can keep doors closed on the one night that is hostel night , you will not be excellent graduates of IITM. Oh yes, you have to be able to meet girls after 11pm and that during the day between 5am and 11pm is not enough time with the girls. This is the alpha and omega of Kaushik's article. To answer another point of yours which is irrelevant to the central issue here,but is easily answered - Communist Russia invented awesome technology, awesome minds including chess champions. The facilities IITM offered a decade ago as an institution remain. So why this mediocrity? Why this Kolaveri?
(1)@saurabh sharma: here goes your explicit answer - first of all you sound like a cynic and big chauvinist. Curbing women's freedom and setting limitations about when they should go out and when they should stay is is going to help anybody except the lazy administration. Why not tackle crime and have a stricter security..??? I come from a joint family with strict values and regulations, yet even my parents feel this too much. You're sounding like the people who say that women get raped because they provoke. Nobody is ready to hold the wrong-doers at fault. Many exceptions are there though. But majority of places face the same problem. You cant just ask students to sit inside trapped, with authoritites telling you what to do and what not to. Mr. if you're mature and have ever been to college, you must be knowing how important that whole 'independence' and 'freedom' part is to the overall development of a person. People do excel in academics and ecc, but then, you might as well be...
Kaushik V,Anand from IISc
To quote both of you , " ...but to the four years they spend in an open, encouraging environment moulding them into confident, free-thinking individuals. "
From 5 am to 11pm freedom reigns,as before in IITM. After 11pm it reigns as before for the boys. Thus,do you not have the same environment?
Pl address this point.
What both of you enjoyed in your student days was under the benevolent eye of the same set of Professors. The same Professors are now compelled to bring in restraints. Why?
Pl address this point.
At all competitions at IIT security is good and Saraang and Shaastra days are good fun. Thus Kaushik can still debate to his hearts content late into the night.
I am afraid,you have made an insufficient case for a dictatorship that is stifling creativity and impinging on your freedom to think and debate.
Pl restate your case, addressing these points - if you wish. I would very much like to read the answers.
I did not mention Mr Jayakrishnan Rajendran that I write and have written op-ed columns. This after being an engineer. In my college days we swept the inter-college competitions in sports and won Play contests. One famous name is a classical music singer today. Many of our Test cricketers are engineers. The discipline of engineering teaches you to accept boundary conditions and work out a solution. Thus,when one lands up in IITM or engg colleges, one accepts the situation,gets on with life,sports,music etc.. English and liberal art majors specialize in the art of dreaming,letting the mind run wild.The current article,thus has imaginary problems that limit creativity and stifle freedom. Another feature of our Arts stream is that they have too much time on their hands. This is not true of medicine and engineering courses. Thus,with time on hands... Gentleman,you have protested,fair enough.Be kind enough to answer other points of mine raised in other posts. Thanks.
@Saurabh Sharma, What you see as optimization within boundary conditions I see as straightjacketed thinking. By that logic, an engineer would have no problems adjusting to a dictatorial regime that suspends constitutional freedoms, after all this is merely another opportunity for constrained optimization. You make a nonsensical set of non sequiturs in response to the author's thoughtfully argued piece and then assert that you're the rational one in the conversation while he's being 'emotional'. I suggest you take a course that's required of all humanities majors in their first year - Logic 101.
Technological innovation is a necessary but not sufficient condition for broad based social change. You also need new frameworks of ideas with which to think about what constitutes desirable social change and what does not. This is why the industrial revolution happened in Europe and not in China.
@ Kris, "CSE"The reasons why Pachayappas or Presidency are in the state they are currently have to do with political interference in the the ability to make autonomous decisions related to curriculum, admissions and hiring policies, not to mention lack of funding. There are numerous examples of engineering only colleges in the same state. Google post hoc ergo propter hoc, since you may be unfamiliar with such 'artsy' concepts as logic fallacies.
But let me ask you this, why do the best students at IIT Madras always leave for places like Stanford? I leave you with a quote from Steve Jobs, a vocal proponent of the value of mixing technology with liberal arts, which may point to an answer:
"China and India are likely to produce many rigorous analytical thinkers and knowledgeable technologists. But smart and educated people don’t always spawn innovation. America’s advantage, if it continues to have one, will be that it can produce people who are also more creative and imaginative."
It is easy to accuse the administrators of 'moral policing' or curtailing students freedom.But it is a feat to control a great institution like IIT with almost 6000 students in the campus at any given time.I have stayed in IIT hostels for a week or so as a guest and i shd say the adminstration is totally justified in taking these measures.These students dont understand the value of their institution. The internet is provided so that they can access science n engineering journals online but almost always they are on facebook/twitter...I am pretty sure, these students wont be allowed to roam outside after 10pm by their parents themselves if they were in their home.There is a vibrant extracurricular society in IIT madras be it acting,literary,painting, sports, dance but how many students make ue of it?I left the campus feeling so jealous that these students had so many oppurtunuties that outside students can only dream of, only ending up squandering them...
I also remember the day I joined IITM in mid 1983. It was a great place to be, and yes, I think I learnt a lot more outside class than I did in it. In fact in our day attendance was not compulsory at all - the 75% rule came in 1985 and our batch was thankfully exempt. We only attended the classes that were worth attending. Actually you could gauge the quality of a prof by the attendance in his class. We had giants like Prof Swaminthan who taught us Physics in his house at midnight with classical music in the background with all of us sitting around on the floor. There was Prof Anthony Reddy for Principles of Electronics, Prof Balakrishnan for Physics, Prof Jhunjhunwala for Communications and a whole heap more whom we worshipped. I guess they were so good that they did not need to have restrictions like compulsory attendance. We also had open hostel in those days and I spent time with girls in their rooms. What ever happened to all that?
Prabha: most IITians are smart enough to understand the bad effects of ganja without having to experiment with it in the first place. Ditto for all the other things you mention in your three posts above. Remember, these are people who were smart enough to get past one of the toughest exams in the world in their first attempt. They didn't pass JEE by first bunking classes, not studying, failing in their first attempt at JEE, and then waking up to the fact that they need to study hard to pass JEE! You need to get some counselling to improve your own approach to life. You certainly also need to become more disciplined! I hope someone saves you from yourself!
Can someone for God's sake tell me why the girls hostel does not have a wi-fi spot? Every college kid appears to have a USB dongle that allows them to get 3.2 MBps on the move with their laptops. Why do these girls not have such facilities?
Finally, IITM , can you answer why each student does not have Internet access in their rooms? Why do they have to go to a central place to access Internet?
Mahima, from Patiala has said that girls and boys in Patiala with restrictions on entry and exit from hostels excel in their studies and extra-curricular work. Caveat - her post and lack of denial subsequently suggest this theory. So why can't IIT boys excel without eating unhealthy egg bhurji or omelette on the roadside ?Why can't IIT boys not excel if they cannot meet girls at night after 11pm ? Why can't IIT boys keep their doors open on Seniors Night - what goes on ? Can someone from IITM answer this?
Enough said and heard about IIT.
If the freedom and democratic values are the major drivers in making IITs the IT institution then what about all those hundreds of engineering colleges churning out laks of students every year. why was no one vocal about the necessity of getting these values across the board.
The answer is that it was not possible because the maturity and responsibility levels of these students are not high enough to handle freedom. Going by that yard stick, its time to revisit the maturity of the student community in IIT to that of their own predecessors 10-20 years back.
Bottom line is that no college can do wonder on its own withour attracting the best of the talent. So IITs are you attracting the best of the talents??
Good article, could identify with it.
The article may have been well-written, but I'd like to make a point as a former IIT-M grad on behalf of some students. Not all students care for some of the things that this writer seems to care about. I was part of lit-soc and stuff and I'm still nostalgic about those days, but I couldn't care less for what the author euphemistically refers to as "interaction" or the late night "tea and omelette" (ya right, who are we kidding here?)
I would have been ok to see some extra discipline around me, and I'm sure there are others like me. On the other hand, that is not to say anybody's freedom should be curtailed. As long as they don't bother other students, students should be free to do what they like.
This post is addressed to Kris and one Saurabh Sharma-
Your post smacks of a high horse stand. One need not be an engineer working on an ISRO project to think about boundary solutions and logical jigzo-mania. If you as educated as you propound to be and indeed had a blood of an academic you two would not make a comment like that. When did majoring in English make a person like a leprosy sufferer. I think you hit the nail on its head when you made the statement - "Engineers are used to boundary conditions." - I think that is the problem here, we are used to so many things.
Oh and BTW, that bangle reference you made was in very poor taste.
When you raise a boy with discipline you get an obedient boy, but you don't get a well matured man out of him. Even in their thirties & forties, such "boys" have a deep desire to live out what they missed as a boy.
If it is done at the right age, both right and wrong are right. One must pass through an irresponsible, immature life to become responsible and mature. I sincerely feel these things can never be taught or forced upon. Give them freedom, they will learn responsibility in a hard way.
PART-III
The students, or their parents, have every right to complain, when they aren't getting their money's worth. Privacy behind closed hostel rooms also comes under that payment. What every student needs is an experience and not really an education and that is what universities needs to provide by removing restrictions.
PART-II
How would one learn to realize that there is more to life than a girl-friend and get on with life without having a failed relationship during their university years? How would that learning happen if curbs are put on dating?
How else would a boy learn to behave with a girl in close quarters later in his life, unless he experiments with a fellow classmate in their closed hostel rooms? For that matter, how else would girls know what to expect from an IITM boy?
It is incorrect to indicate that an engineering university is a place where engineering is primarily taught or an arts university is a place where engineering shouldn't be expected. Learning is universal and let univerities not specify what they provide. Leave the learning to students. What is the big deal if students don't show up to classes, as long as the fees are being paid?
PART-I
I totally agree with the author a one hundred percent.
It looks like the current students of IITM are living in a dystopian era without any sort of freedom whatsoever. I think its lucky that the author was able to get the word out in a world with almost no freedom of expression. I sincerely applaud the author for being able to fight the orwellian atmosphere and the draconian rules.
University is the only place and time in one's life, where one gets to experiment and learn. For example, experiment with ganja, fail a semester or two and learn that the high of ganja doesn't really last.
The analogy is clear and somple. Just as tax-payers have every right to assert their freedoms, the fee-payers have every right to do what they want on the campus. It is high time that IITM authorities understand this and not put any restrictions at all. The best learning is self-learning, for both students and the authorities. The appropriate discipline is what one specifies for oneself.
Mahima, from Patiala - your comment is excellent. Since girls hostel closes at 6 in winters and 7 30 in summer , has this stopped students from excelling in academic and extra-curricular life ? I think an explicit answer will help considerably.
I think TN parents are among the most control freak. They want to control their children's life at every stage. How else does one explain the proliferation of concentration camps in the name of engineering colleges in TN? Leave alone colleges, I know of a research organisation's hostel where, bachelor scientists - men and women- were staying in same wings so happily was segregated the into men's and women's wings as a parent complained! It would really be a great service if all those repressive parents shift their base to gulf countries and let this country remain free.
I dont know when would ever our people see the fact that its liberal societies which create great minds and never oppressive control freak societies. If some students dont know how to handle freedom and end up in a mess (and again most often such "mess" is as per society's perceptions), its they who need counseling. It makes no sense to punish the whole junta through senseless restrictions.
For my surprise, I found that most of the students are aware about this issue. Protest is also fuming over the arbitrary calculation of additional mess bill. Though the students don't have to pay the amount now, there is no explanation given as how they arrived in the specific numbers (that wastage permitted to a student is 20 gm per meal). I wish they start speaking to students after these press coverage.
I support the author. But looking at the comments, it is clear that the people are
divided. I presume that those who enjoyed the liberal/free environment support it,
and those who didn't, support control.
It is ironic. I expected women to be more liberal but they appear more conservative.
May be it is the small sample size of the comments.
Anyway, the students cannot take the freedom for granted. The struggle between the
liberals and the conservatives (and fascists, as one commentator said) is age old. It is
important for the liberals and the students to provide push back.
The author makes a rightful plea for freedom - but there are related responsibilities that need to be recognized and accepted. Else, freedom will be misinterpreted to be license. Since my graduation, I have settled overseas but have visited the campus a few times. Each visit has made me feel pained to see the facilities run down, the hostels vandalized ... making me think that the students do not have pride and responsibility of ownership.
If there are faculty and wardens focused on instilling fear (rather than respect and regard), they too have to grow up! I echo the sentiments expressed in the Tagore poem (posted by some one here) which I read every day (as I have it on my office wall) to remind myself of what true freedom means.
Good article, but some points need to definitely disagreed upon.
Change is inevitable and freedom is more than required for college students but it has to have its limits as the reputation of the uni is also at stake by granting unlimited freedom to the hostel students.
But at the sametime "Creating Fear" is something that is not in good health. Creating discipline would have been much much comforting!
Time for introspection!!!
@Kris, and others who look down upon Arts and Humanities subjects condescendingly: It is disheartening to read your comment on liberal arts. Both science and arts are necessary to build a healthy society. How can you have a world class university without developmental , political studies complementing it? Please understand that all advanced societies in the world (including ancient India) also have as a background cultural and societal revolutions before they could become industrially advanced. And by the way, I suppose without journalism (Liberal Arts) you would not have been able to comment the way you did.
I am not coming here to give some "gyan". But I just want to narrate what happens generally, in most cases. My son used to ask for pocket money now and then and as was expected was spent in wasteful ways like movies, outings etc. Then one day, we discussed and arrived at a mutual
understanding. Every month, he should be given a specific sum and it was for him whether to spend the whole amount in one go or have it distributed over the entire month. Surprising , but true that he learnt to budget and control his income and expenditure. Don't you all think, given the responsibility and trust with just an overall
guidance, the youngsters will do better.Please understand that all these students are going to be our future administrators,professors and the like.
This line of thought that if you cannot go out at night your freedom is curtailed can come only from a liberal arts student. Kris,above says the same.
Engineers are used to boundary conditions , logical solutions that send rockets to the moon. English majors,as Kris of CSE complains in a post above tend to be emotion oriented.
Thus the fact that a) women need to be with an escort to prevent an assault and b)rooms should be kept open on annual hostel nights is perceived by an English major as being detrimental to creativity, freedom to express themselves and stifling of students life. What about the remaining things they can do during the day and that they can meet girls during the day?
If these boys need snacks at night, what the hell is stopping them from cooking themselves? Bet they need girls to help them peel onions.
Bangles are worn by women and they excel in IIT,but looks like the men with their lame excuses are emerging as the proverbial bangle wearers.
I am an alumini of IITM from Batch 2006. In these past six years i always thought of being at such a great place where i stayed again. I would say IITM profs and Admin is really very kind and always gives a considerate thought in the welfare of Students. I do not believe that if you are sitting late in the night or going out then only you are creative...its just a frame on mind....all you need is freedom of thought...and that IITM always gives...Also we must respect to the Profs who are such a rich knowledge to share. Whats wrong if insttitute ask you to attend the classes?
Lol dude come to Patiala... The girls' hostel at university closes at 6 in the winters and 7.30 in the summers... boys are allowed to roam anywhere and everywhere... SStill you'll find numerous incidents of eveteasing.
I don't see any Engineering students from IIT-M complaining. The author majored in "English Studies". It is time that IIT-M get rid of the liberal arts curriculum to ensure that the IIT doesn't turn into another Pachayappas/Presidency.
Kris - CSE.
Agreed-all freedom comes with a resposibility--unlimited freedom does
sometimes lead to the path of ruin and chaos . But draconian
restrictions are not the answer to stop it. It is a typical Indian
response to look at any issue as black and white --and not able to see
the grey areas. Ability and maturity to create a healthy self checking
environment to allow the students to exercise their freedom as matured
adults and create their own Lakshman Rekha -is the right approach .
The main point that the administration fails to understand is that we
cannot immure entire population just because someone is committing
crime. I think the issue has to be revisited and a new solution has to
be proposed without curtailing freedom and privacy of a student.
There is sea change in the attitude of students of three decades back and present generation. The present student generation is fully immersed in commercialization and emphasize more on individual freedom rather than responsibility. Also they are more prone to unlawful and unethical ways whereas students in 1970s or 1980s were more inclined to national-building values and less prone to sex, alcohol and violent life.
I remember my college days when 'ragging/Interaction' continued for an
year. but believe me, it helps. Brings the senior junior community
closer. Inhibitions are washed, talents exposed. I remember a classmate
honed up as a singer by the end of 1st year. Yea, I agree even a little
too much becomes unbearable to the psych, but we got to let the kids
play. If they aren't allowed to fall and get back up on their own, are
we not encouraging spineless machines?
Not only is the article brilliantly articulated, every sentence is true. I have been a student of IIT Mumbai and am now a faculty in the same institute. Though the gap between my student life and now is much larger than in the case of Kaushik, I too observe a kind of draconian mentality creeping in with regards to policing the students. Yes, the students are academically lazy and that has to be addressed effectively, but their activities outside of the department should certainly be encouraged. Ragging was a wonderful thing 25 years back, I cannot fathom how and why this should have been banned. Ironically, I was placed in the anti ragging committee and I had to resign from it when I saw how childish the faculty was in their attitude.
Jeeves --you said it with a punch --brilliant and lashing- at our
penchant to treat grown ups as kids always -right till they accept
themselves as grown ups--may be at the age of 60 and above when they
feel the urge to advise all Tom dick and Harry!!
3 Idiots movie is to blame for all that's happening recently....every
institutional head want's to copy Virus Boman....jokes apart I think we
should remember the age old saying ,"Too Much is Too Bad & Too Less is
Harmful"
I am not an alumnus of IIT --but from another great institution in
Tamilnadu , which is much older than IITs --from where I did my
engineering way back in the sixties.This institution was notorious
nevertheless for political activism among students in those decades-
but did not clip their freedom in any way . This institution produced
really great professionals and engineers nevertheless. I also have
closely observed the life in IIT -Madras in the early seventies where
my cousin did his MS --and I knew for sure how liberal IIT madras was
those days when students had enormous --really enormous freedom to do
things the way they wished --primarily no restrictions on their
physical movements and mental freedom to debate , involve , and
reinvent themselves splendidly.Draconian restrictions are not the
answer to counter the ills of freedom . this is a typical indian
response to issues. Making the environment proactively more conducive
to exercise the freedom with responsibility is the right
I agree with the author since clipping of the freedom, clips of the creative thoughts and one has to always fear someone whole through the life and cannot make or take decisions on their own.This clipping of the freedom will affect the students , not now, but in their work life ! They would never be a legend in their profession but only keep nodding their head to what other say
Should introduce a 1 year course on democracy for administrators. Also
I completely agree with creativity and innovative ideas comes with
freedom, if unnecessary restrictions are going to fill and bother the minds of innovators, IIT would be like any other immature
institutions. Should contain the generation gap with rule makers.
Please start spending time on designing products and capture the
global trade as a vision for our nation than making passionate people
in to frustrated minds with silly rules. How long are we going to pay
ridiculously high prices for a missile from Russia or TV from South
Korea? Jai hind - Jai IItians!
Save universities from political influence, drug traders, and all forms of mafia influence and prepare them to meet all the setbacks of life, be it in married life as well as a responsible citizen with multi-aptitude confidence because life is not just a stock of certificates but a training for constant adjustments and readjustments.
The article made me laugh...Methinks, this fits well with Indian culture
(middle class in particular) where even people aged forty are considered
to be kids by their parents (mine included :-)
Quick lesson to KV...welcome to real life in India, where, once you step out of your cocoon that is your college campus, you will realize how oppressive our country really is. Our powerful elite will act as self-appointed custodians of our morality & any kind of dissent with them will be cause for punishing you, the tax-paying citizen. For e.g., if you have read the newspaper in last couple of days, look at what happened. There was a CM who went vengefully after a citizen who dared float around a cartoon of that CM. This CM also ordered removal of all publications deemed non-kosher in govt. libraries of that state. In essence, India has become a state where elected people, instead of protecting freedoms will crush yours if you disagree with them. Secondly, I'm sure you have read about the RTE Act, wherein the govt. decided willy-nilly to grab power in private educational institutions in the name of the "greater good". IITM is simply reflecting oppression of freedoms & choices in India.
While freedom to interact with fellow students can be source of new ideas and inspiration, blatant misuse of the facility, by resort to most indecent acts like harrassing women students and indulging in
obscene acts MUST be curbed properly; today boys dont follow rules and think too much of themselves; pity; ALL freedom should have limits laid down properly to justify safety and sanity.
I am an alumnus of IIT Bombay (1967-72) and Kanpur (1972-74). I am pained to hear about the restrictions at IITM and also the threats to girls at night. In my time there were hardly any motorcycles or scooters on campus. Maybe the solution is to curtail their use. Those returning on 2-wheelers from outside late at night can be made to leave them near the campus entrance. Many will be irked by this but it might be better than the existing rules.
Our education system is so dull that students find browsing, hanging out, boozing as the enjoyment. It is time to introduce an artistic approach to education. If you ask any young kid, what he/she likes best about schools is painting, music, PT classes. Unfortunately in today's system, none of these disciplines have importance. Science is an extension of art. Instead of loading young minds with formulae and forcing them to memorize, the students should be made to arrive at these formulae through experience and experiments. As an Electrical engineer, i learnt much more working with Hardware in my office environment, than reading pages and pages of books loaded with formulae. Coupling this should be curriculum exposing students to life of great men, literature and religion. All these fields helps students get a holistic aspect to life rather than looking at education as means to better standard of living.
I never went to IIT but I'm familiar with what "draconian" means, in the context of college administration. It's a bloody shame that 1) your students aren't treated like independent-minded, responsible adults already 2) you place an undue and exclusive emphasis on academic performance at the cost of... everything else. This system is wired all wrong.
The author has a Masters in ENGLISH STUDIES degree from an Indian Institute of
TECHNOLOGY ?!!! I think that explains his article's stand!
Looking back, many of us alumni realise that a bit more discipline on campus would
only have made us even better. There is no free lunch. Mahatma Gandhi, if I may
remind the author, said that rights and duties are two sides of the same coin.There is
no absolute freedom. Nowhere in the world.
Campus is totally unsafe for girls!In 2009, I was nearly assaulted by a stranger on bike one night when I was walking back to my hostel from Biotech dept. This happened because we had no internet at hostels after 12 and I had to go to dept. to check my admits emails and interview calls. I took a wrong decision of not filing an official complaint because the campus police said that it would take my time which I didn't have in my last months at IIT. I am saddened by the fact that the campus administration didn't do anything about it even after 3 years. In the article, there are no 'supposed' victims', we are real!! Curtailing the freedom of girls will not help anyone at any level! They have to revamp their security measures and bring co-ordination between privately owned hostel security and the campus police.
If the teacher takes a real interest in the child as an individual, the parents will
have confidence in him. In this process, the teacher is educating the parents as well
as himself, while learning from them in return. Right education is a mutual task
demanding patience, consideration and affection. Enlightened teachers in an
enlightened community could work out this problem of how to bring up children,
and experiments along these lines should be made on a small scale by interested
teachers and thoughtful parents.- J.Krishnamurti
Book: Education and significance of life
I agree with Mr Kaushik.I had studied in Kolkata where we were sucked into violence and arguments.Yet we learned many things useful to maintain dignity in our future life ,though remaining ignorant about false respect so called professionals show to people with authority.
I have learnt that in spite of many problems, political education provide much deeper understanding about our social needs though many would differ!
I agree with Kaushik.IIT is the best platform,where student increase their own extra ordinary skill.But it is possible when the freedom given to the student at this campus.
Well, I don't know about IITs, but Amrita institutions (from where I graduated) are stricter than kindergartens.
I am a student of IIT-M since last two years and facts mentioned in the article are true to certain extent.Very few students take freedom with responsibility and thus certain restrictions are appropriate as warranted by present situation in the campus.I think there is no such moral policing happening in IIT-M.The media is hyping the issue out of proportion to spice up its news.
beautifully written ..I hope the concerned authorities also read this .
I too agree with you kaushik but situation here is in jeopardy because your talking only according to students point of view and ignoring the broader situation like the recent ragging incident which had brought tensed situation in reputed institutions.Outing at nyt and everythng luks gud but it do have an ill side that may ruin any1's lyf.And as per increasing the security,I dont thnk its practically possible to ensure that and its always gud to have some discipline because they are for our gud only......
The author is misinformed. I am a student currently in IITM, and the
"curfew" the author talks about dosent exist. But I can vouch for
one thing, the color of IITM has changed, not because of the
indulgent administration, but the junta on the campus. The campus is
slowly turning into Osmania. Think of ways to improve Osmania and
the measures become obvious. And its being done in the best way the
admin can think of. Why is this conversion happening, answer should
come from the HRD ministry. FYI we had our hostel night on 11th of
this month. To the "former student", IITM has about 6-7k students,
how many do you think take part in Lit-Soc. If the selected few be
allowed complete freedom (which they deserve), it will only be
misused by others.
Having taught in India and Europe I find the Indian approach to education quite
backward. IITs were centres where students enjoyed great freedoms and so
flowered unhindered. Nowadays these institutions, and private colleges run by
uneducated politicians, resemble Concentration Camps. Life of a young person in
India is stifled with restrictions, control and with many rewards and punishments.
Parents don’t seem to care what their child really wants or is capable of- they just
impose their will and pressure on these young and impressionable minds.
Teachers, parents and most of the media seem to have been programmed by the
backward values that treat young adults sans respect. Students raised with such
role models end up becoming exactly like their predecessors and so perpetuate an
unhealthy tradition.
I totally agree with Kaushik. I am not a student from IIT. But definitely believe , the freedom given to the students at this campus
is one of the important reason for students to give out a outstanding
professional performance.
As a teacher, and as a person who was a student not so long ago, I am
all for freedom in campus life. But all freedom comes with the tag of
responsibility. Life is far more complicated and competitive now.
There are issues that we couldn't imagine when we were students. In
my own campus at Jadavpur University, Kolkata, there was no system for
taking attendance earlier when we were students. Yet classes usually
had full attendance. Now, when teachers enter classes with attendance
registers, not much has changed. It's more like a farce. Those who
are irregular are irregular and inattentive. And those who are regular
and attentive are so not because of the attendance register!
Personally, I am against teachers getting involved in student life.
Teachers should teach. Authorities should treat students as maturing
adults and neither as criminals in the making nor as prospective vote
banks. I am strongly in favour of student freedom.
It is very saddening to see all these measures being implemented. I too
did my BTech from IIT Madras and the best thing for me about IITM is not
the labs or the professors, but the atmosphere where I could feel no
restrictions to anything I wanted to do. It is extremely unfortunate to
see that it has become a thing of past.
I agree with the author, Freedom is a stimulus for creativity and in the hands of right minds can be channelised for great achievements
Where the mind is without fear
and the head is held high,
Where knowledge is free;
Where the world has not been broken
up into fragments by narrow domestic
walls;
Where words come out from the
depth of truth;
Where tireless striving
stretches its arms towards
perfection;
Where the clear stream of reason
has not lost its way into the
dreary desert sand of dead habit;
Where the mind is led forward
by thee into ever-widening
thought and action–
into that heaven of freedom,
my Father,
Let my country awake.
- Rabindranath Tagore
When will Indian educators who "administer" education realize ??
It doesn't apply for IITs alone - look back - the entire education
system bears the same face !!
No restriction can be successful unless the authorities understand how
to make a restriction such that it becomes fully compatible and
intensifies the bright part of independence,provided hitherto.Self-
independence is the birthright of everyone,and any attempt to violate
that spells trouble in future.Instead,the authorities,instead of
becoming solely protective and thinking solely from the angle of a
guardian or a custodian,should at least attempt to think from the
angle of a student,and if restrictions are still necessary,should be
put such that it does not violate anyone's independence,or else the
enforcing authority would never earn any respect,leave alone what they
earn from the students,and it cannot be called a healthy atmosphere,if
the authorities,due to their "fascist" mode of administration,fail to
earn any respect from the bearers. That is the first failure of any
system. Generation of fear at this stage,instead of creating a pillar
of the society,just creates its slave.
dear sir, the article by kaushik viswanath is very interesting. we, as outsiders , were thinking that IIT is the only destination where all brilliant have to land. Reading of the article gives an impression that there is no regret for those who could not enter into IIT.Even other engg.colleges in tier I and II cities in t.n. are far better and creative .Finally it is the student himself decides his destiny not his institution from where he graduates.
The author is perhaps feeling pressure on his freedom since he does not understand what freedom means. Total, unrestricted freedom is a state that does not exist;but his time in IITM whether at night or during the day does not seem to have taught this.
What exactly do these boys and girls do when they have their send off party that disturbs the authorities?Is it not true that boys and girls today indulge in activities that are liable to cause harm? If the author can elucidate , we shall be informed.For so many years the hostel authorities did not deem fit to frame this rule.Why now?
" The democratic values and freedom that IIT affords"...when these democratic values and freedom are misused to the detriment of majority, the management will have no option but to use the broad brush to bring in some semblance of dignity and decorum to the place. The writer should realise (I am sure he/she is aware of it but this article is more towards populism)that should his children be lucky enough to join this lauded institution some time in the future, he would not like to see an atmosphere where the primary purpose of joining is frustrated by the activities of a few misguided youth. Where is it written that you cannot enjoy life with a bit of discpline and decorum!
The sentence below says it all "The democratic values and freedom that IIT affords its students goes a long way towards shaping them into successful, responsible adults."
We were the lucky ones with best of faculty and close bonding between students and professors. There were little or no restrictions and it was a fun time learning in IIT. It is a shame to see the state of IIT Madras these days - they have all the amenities but NO Freedom - Makes Jack a Dull Boy
Maybe your periods all would have been nice.These restrictions are necessary for both boys&girls.
As a former IITian, I am shocked and saddened. It's all the more galling since the present Diro is an IITM alumnus. Has he forgotten his carefree times???
I totally agree with the author. What people do with their 'free
will' in a totally free environment is what determines their future.
Unfortunately bad things do happen with freedom and a few students
who are not yet molded into responsible adults commit silly mistakes
that creates trouble for the administration. Parents of such students
should understand that it is not because of the freedom the student
did a bad thing - maybe there were problems with the student's
upbringing and the parents are responsible along with the student for
the mistake, not the administration or the freedom given to students.
So rather than parents blaming the college administration (and the
admin, in turn enforcing strict rules) why not ask the parents to
take the responsibility in bringing up their children with self-
respect, responsibility and right thinking?
The author needs to be kindly reminded that IITM is an institute of technology, not a liberal arts college. It is important that students master the basic engineering concepts (which requires practice of end-of-chapter problems and focused lab sessions) before they venture to perform innovative real world projects. The students might have very well cracked the JEE but, engineering studies require mastering of new concepts. With all the late-night parties and late-night hangouts, I really doubt if students can do justice to their engineering studies which requires regular practice and showing a streak of intelligence is not sufficient. This trend has been clearly reflected with several of recent IITM graduates pursuing non-engineering oriented careers. On the contrary, top students from other engineering colleges in the state who write the regular university examinations, are ending up pursuing engineering Doctorates in several reputed institutes abroad.
Dr. Srinivasulu
Thanks for the write-up K. The issue is far more than the media reported. In fact here we have inside the walls, a fascist establishment who do not even know how to spell democracy. The main issue of the wardens were - with respect to the 'open' discussion on hostel nights meeting - there was a critical voice and none of students spoke against it. There was this professor who was attempting a walk-out when he heard the word "sex". Unfortunately, the students representatives too speak for the fascist regime, when they are (ideally) elected to raise the voice of student concerns.
My student days are decades behind, but a part of that past still clings. I was a hostellite at IISc. Chais were in Yashwanthpur. Night shows were in MG Road and we would walk back at 2:00 AM. We would study like crazy when we have to, but also party hard - searching for the most eclectic of music in an era untouched by internet - bootlegged Dylan tapes, Shakti, Neil Young - each in their own way questioning the pecking order - speaking for justice. A past that clings on.
That spark of freedom, seeded a choice that I made in life, of doing research. I picked a project that at that was off the beaten path - spent my nights doing experiments, reading up, writing - which led me to decades of applied research, now with brighter minds, with a passion that has sustained for 30 years.
Where did this start? for me at the free portals of IISc back in 1981.
Agreed Kaushik - the stamp of a free thinking campus is something we should not mess with. That is to precious.
this is the truth which other IIT's and its officials should
understand..
Hello,
I agree with you that students should have freedom to do what they
want to do. But certain disgusting things happened in the Hostel
Nights, which led the administration to clamp some restrictions.
Secondly, with regard to attendance criteria, I think there is not
need to be so critical about it. Although not everyone, many
Professors do a lot of homework on how to teach the class and in the
process spend considerable amount of their time and energy. If
students don't turn up to the classes and prefer to sit in their
hostels, then Professors feel discouraged. Ergo, I there is nothing
bad about it. Many people get a 'W' great every semester. Its okay if
a students gets an 'E' grade at least. But what sense does a 'W' make?
If somebody is not able to turn up for class in a residential campus
like this, then it is a serious problem which the administration has
to tackle.
I am an alumnus of IITM who passed out with M.Sc and Ph.D.in 1970. It pained me to
read the report in "The Hindu" about clipping the freedom of students in the name of their
safety and security. Of course, freedom should not be taken as licence to indulge in
all sorts of activities. Hope there is a rethinking on this issue on the part of the administration. Trust begets trust.
Closing Night eateries at 1 pm is not early. Back gate is closed doesn't mean that you can't go out, there is a front gate also. Ragging is not in our campus alone, its a national issue. Administration never forced us to sleep early, many people still don't sleep at night till 8am in the morning. Campus never involved in others free time, its the seniors who give suggestions about the best things that we can do during our free times which many may or may not follow. Many girls still go out and come to hostels at 2 pm during night. Taking a man as an escort is an option but not mandatory. CURFEW is a big word and campus never did something related to it. I HOPE HINDU CAN FIND MORE POSITIVES REGARDING IITM RATHER THAN NEGATIVES WHICH ARE LIKE A FEW DOTS ON PLAIN PAPER FOR IITM. My campus is the best and always will be.
i support IITs in their stand,i don't agree with author's views fully
becz
*everything keeps on changing,so the mentality of students,so the
student in kausik's days cannot be compared with today's students
->as you can see ragging has increased day by day,in almost in all
top institutions and GOVT had taken severe action only after many
suicides and deaths have occurred,tht too in IIT'S
->you might have heard the recent news of schoolboy murdering
teacher in school.tht shows the mentality of students
->iit is a place to study,it is not a restarent or 5 star hotel to get
privacy. will the parents allow you locked inside the room with ur
friend with alcholol for whole night?this only damages the decency and
values among the students....if u want privacy dont go to IIT better
go to some 5tar hotel
It is said that the first 50 years are easier to survive for any
college than the next 50 years! Initial years are child years, where
the institute gets encouragement from all, and they look up to other
established ones. In the air of encouragement, the institutes perform
well and excel in almost every field. Slowly they grow to mature
institutes of repute as they are now looked upto. The onus of
providing light to the future is born to them. It is the second fifty
years which will determine how far the institute will survive, when it
will be judged by its autonomous actions.
Out IITs have gained worldwide reputation in all these years. With
almost all the old IITs completing their 50 years, let us see how our
esteemed IITs fare in their second phase.
Freedom of students in IIT Madras should not be restricted. Authorities should hear to the
voice of students. They are grown ups. And not like school kids.
Creativity, innovation grows in frank and free atmosphere. Liberalization should forthwith be
done.
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