After articles on Nayakan by the star Kamal Haasan and the producer ‘Muktha’ V. Srinivasan – carried in these pages – a lot of people expressed interest in knowing the director’s viewpoint. Here are relevant excerpts from the just-released Conversations with Mani Ratnam by Baradwaj Rangan.
After your unsuccessful attempt to work with Kamal Haasan in Pallavi Anupallavi, you finally roped him in.
Kamal had sent over a producer, ‘Muktha’ Srinivasan, when I was working on the script of Agni Natchatiram. Agni was the film I wanted to do after Mouna Raagam... So ‘Muktha’ Srinivasan came home and said, dramatically, ‘Kizhakku endha pakkam?’ [Which way is east?] He made me stand in that direction and gave me an envelope. I thought it was money—an advance maybe—but it was actually a video cassette of a Hindi film. He said Kamal wanted me to see the film. I was not interested in a remake but the producer insisted that I see the film. Though a cheque would have been more appreciated than a cassette, I said I’d see it. I put the tape in. It was about Shammi Kapoor in a nuthouse [Pagla Kahin Ka]. I couldn’t bear it. I was very sure I wasn’t interested.
So when he returned the next day, I told him I had always felt I was not good for remakes. It was better to get someone efficient, someone who’d do things quickly and get the film out as soon as possible. He wasn’t flustered. He asked me to get into the car and go with him to AVM studios, where Kamal was shooting, and tell Kamal what I’d told him. I realized that, as much as I didn’t want to do this he didn’t want me for his film either. I met Kamal during his lunch break and told him that Pagla Kahin Ka was not my type of film and I wouldn’t be able to do it. Kamal then asked me what kind of film I would prefer to make. He said that the tape was just to start a conversation. I went to say no, but now I had a chance to make a film with Kamal and he was asking me what kind of film I’d do with him. I said there were two possibilities. One was a very sleek, city-based action film, a Dirty Harry or Beverly Hills Cop or a Bond-ish film, the kind of thing that had not been done much in Tamil cinema. It still hasn’t been done. I am a big fan of sleek action films. I’ve always wanted to do something like that. The second possibility was the life of Varadaraja Mudaliar.
What intrigued you about his story?
The two years I studied in Bombay (1975–77), he was at his peak. People in the Matunga belt thought he was God. I used to wonder how anyone could treat a fellow human as God. I never understood why they would do this. It fascinated me. It was such a dramatic story, this man going from Tamil Nadu to Bombay and ruling the city. I outlined this thought to Kamal and he said fine. That’s it. It was done. Decided. Mouna Raagam took five years to get approved. Nayakan got cleared in 10 minutes. It was September, I think. He said he’d given ‘Muktha’ Srinivasan dates in December and we could start shooting...
We had scheduled three days of shooting in December, and I told Kamal I wouldn’t be ready with the script. He said something that surprised me. He said that I could treat the three days as test shoots, with three get-ups for the three ages of the character. And we did just that. That is the kind of luxury I’d never had. The producer had no clue that we were shooting three scenes that were tests and may not make it to the final cut. They didn’t, though they were nice scenes. But the test shoot helped to get Velu Nayakar’s look right, and we also got the other details (art, props, shooting style, costumes) right... The first real schedule of Nayakan took place in January.
So the film that really, really put you on the map was a complete accident.
Yeah. I think Kamal too didn’t expect much from the film — at least not at the start and not what it became.
Looking at Kamal’s performance or anything else, did you have an inkling that Nayakan would become what it became?
With the time and effort you invest in each project, you expect that each one will work. It’s not that in Nayakan I was going out of the way and doing something extraordinary. It’s just that it’s such a pleasure when there’s an actor who delivers more than you can imagine. It takes a weight off your shoulders, because you no longer have to carry the scene by yourself. I realized that I didn’t have to stage a scene to prop up the actor. It was enough if the camera caught him. He brings credibility to the lines and makes it so effortless. He adds to the entire picture.
Apart from his ability to emote so well, he’s a master of technique. He did quite a bit of the make-up for the other actors in the film. If I had someone with a wound that didn’t look right, I’d go to him and ask him to fix it. He’d sit with the actor and get it done, and by that time I’d have finished all the other shots I had to do. He was really a part of the team that way. We could ask him for anything we wanted for anybody else and he would do it. He was the one who convinced Janakaraj and Delhi Ganesh to cut their hair and grow convincingly old along with Velu Nayakan. He would bring his own gun for a shot, and save the trouble of using a terrible dummy. He had this bottle made of sugar glass, which he had brought from US, and he used it in the fight with the cop. He made sure that the scene played out real. It is a big boon to have an extra mind on the set.
Saranya brought to the part a fragility that an established actor couldn’t have. She was effectively your first big ‘discovery’, cast opposite Kamal, one of the biggest stars around. At that early stage in your career, was it difficult convincing people about this casting?
Right from the beginning, we had only a new face in mind, because we felt the character would come through much stronger with a new actor. It would be more real. I had no problems convincing people. If you’re successful, they give you a longer rope. Mouna Raagam had done well. Also, [the producers] Muktha Films were breaking away from what they’d done in the past. They were working with an outside director for the first time. They were making a film on a much larger scale than they were used to. So they did not really question my casting. For most of the film I had complete freedom. We were looking for someone and this photograph came to us. Looks-wise, she was more or less what we wanted. We called her in for a test. I think we shot the test at the wedding hall owned by the producer, and we were convinced that we could get what we wanted out of her. She was the first and only person we saw for the role.
Excerpted with permission from Penguin Books India from the book Conversations with Mani Ratnam by Baradwaj Rangan. Penguin Viking/ Rs.799.
Keywords: Kamal Haasan, Nayakan, Time magazine’s 100 greatest films, Mani Ratnam, making of Nayakan, Tamil Classic



Both Mani and Kamal are claiming as though they have made an original
film. They must have accepted that they have taken the story from
Godfather. Why can't they do 'original' scripts?
If Kamal knew Muktha was old school and wouldn't spend money then why make a movie with him. No doubt he is a great actor, but he lacks ethics. In the last twenty years most of his movies have been remakes, but he has never acknowledged it.
Here goes the list of remakes
Guna
Mahanadi
Sati Leelavathi
Kurudhipunal
Magalir mattum
Avvai shanmughi
Tenaali
Aalavandaan
Panchatantram
These are extracts from a book and not an endorsement of Kamal's interview. Perhaps Mani did not want to support Kamal's version and that is the reason why he did not give an interview.
Needless to say that Kamal Haasan is an extremely talented actor, but because of his intervention in the original script we have missed a true Maniratnam film (Like Mouna ragam, Roja).
If Kamal wants what he wants, then he should produce the film, rather than blaming the producer Muktha srinivasan as a man from old school, the one who rations the film roll, and the one who does not even arrange ittar for makeup. If he had known Muktha srinivasan as a producer from old school why he joined that school in the first place.
This is just few pages from book. i dont think its strongly related to
kamal & muktha version. its a generic article anyway
Why Maniratnam doesn't say that he wanted to 'remake' Godfather in Tamil, Since he is not 'interested' in remakes?
I hope The Hindu does not carry some more articles with rebuttals and counter-arguments from P.C. Shriram, Ilayaraja, the editor and the light men. The "insightful" articles can better end here and maybe the space can be dedicated to something more worthwhile.
Well what the director does is IMPORT movies well, for whatever worth it is the Actor is only popular in the region but I don't think Tamil Actors can transform into roles they perform. It is the same everytime, plays well for the local genre. Aamir Khan has done what this team has been trying to do for ages. Be original and be authentic like so many other teams are doing in the industry.
The success of "Nayakan" in its rendition is attributed to "The
Godfather" by Mario Puzo and the Director of the movie Coppola.
"Nayakan" is a much sanitized and trivial version of the original
movie, whether the hero or the director of "Nayakan" agrees or not.
In every country, there is a 'Don' as depicted in the novel "The
Godfather". The director identified or nearly equated the profile
with that of Varadharaja Mudaliar; such was the influence of the
novel;this and the spectacular performance by Marlon Brando must have
been the driving force behind making of "Nayakan" and it true that
the whole team succeeded in its efforts to portray the indianized
version.
KAMAL was forthright, as always, and brutally honest so that readers got to know what it was a quarter century ago. Yes, 25 years back, 5 Lakhs was all that was in a producer's mind. (And for that, the producers then would have insisted Kamal to do a hip-hop dance). And if that was told bluntly, what is wrong in it ?. Nobody can deny the fact that Nayakan became the benchmark of Tamil cinema, which got tagged as "before and after NAYAKAN", the Master Piece.
All said and done, would it not be befitting to celeberate the SILVER JUBILEE of the movie, with the coming together of Mani, Kamal, Ilayaraja, Saranya, Co-Artists and the entire crew. It would have been a Master-Stroke, if only Mukta Srinivasan has taken the lead for such a mega show. (Instead, unfortunately, he stands painted himself into a corner). And finally, the present generation would very much appreciate a digital version of the movie ""NAYAKAN". (What a treat it would be to watch it with the present day technology).
Why drag Shammikapoor's name while giving his version on NAYAKAN by
respected Manirathnam sir.It has been a habit by the south film
connected personalities to keep talking about bollywood while they
respect all of us .Whatever is the argument,the quality of
music,costume sense and overall reach and acceptance of hindi films
upto sholay has been far superir to our films.Do you mean to say
Bimalroy,Rajkapoor,Guljar ,Gurudutt,to name a few are no good ?If kamal
and Mani can join together and produce films
like"KINARA",KHUSHBOO,mausam ,I shall take back my comments.If our
talents for so good why tamil remakes of "Aradhna,kora
kagaz,dushman,amanush,Brahmachari,mausam etc were no where near the
originals.
It's very nice to know the director's version. He gave the hero and the
producer their due. This should nullify the ill effects of the earlier
versions by the hero and the producer. Nice way of concluding an
interesting insight into the making of a memorable movie by 'The Hindu'.
Thank you.
After reading this interview I am further convinced that the biggest
credit for the success of the movie Nayakan must go to Mr. Kamal
Hasssan, the greatest ever actor of Indian Cinema. It is hard to the
imagine anybody ever reprising the role of velu nayakan better than what
the god of acting Kamal has done. Kamal Haasan is the basic ingredient
of this succesful movie and all others namely the director, music
director and cinematographer have played the part well to contribute to
its success.
During my college days, many of my friends criticized mani sir for copying godfather in nayagan. But i defended by saying that he must have got inspired by the life of varadaraja mudaliar during his MBA days in Bombay. Now from this interview excerpt, i am sure my instincts were correct. I think kamal must have got inspired from marlon brando and al-pacino. The way the middle-age kamal looked (especially hair style)and some of his mannerisms, certainly reminded me al-pacino. The old-age kamal mannerism like itching his head, thinking something to make decision reminded me marlon brando. Then the way the camera was handled definitely had its resemblance to God Father. But the story was not a copy from God Father.
Nayagan was based on real life story but adapted for screen in robinhood kind of manner. But still i can't understand why this movie is considered a mile stone in tamil cinema.
Thank you The Hindu for bringing clarity to the topic. Using the excerpts within the excerpts... "Kamal said the tape was to start a conversation (and the film)". "The test shoot helped to get the details like art, props, shooting style, costumes right". "We could ask for anything for anybody". "I did not have to stage a scene. It was enough if the camera caught him". "... he is a master of technique".
Perhaps Kamal could have chosen a different way to convey his thoughts without hurting anyone. But Kamal's passion and dedication with arts and particularly films is natural; he cannot be otherwise because he is born for this role on earth. He is blessed with immense talent for this purpose.
Conversations with quality directors will reveal how much Kamal has exceeded their expectations and taken real burden off them...He is a near 100% complete person on films.
However, one cannnot ignore the money aspect in life, even in non-profit social organizations. Producers definitely face commercial challenges and risks.
The entire film unit - from directors, actors and technicians - need to share the responsibility that producers should make atleast some money that keeps their "producer" interests alive.
Producers should have some natural interests in promoting arts and films. Only such producers can understand the needs and challenges faced by the unit.
Maniratnam's portrayal of events bear close correlation with Kamals version.
Producers article was biased and hell bent on criticising Kamal.
This article shows the class and stature of Kamal which makes him probably the most
complete actor tamil cinema will ever see.He is indeed Sagalakala vallavan.
'Nayakan' viewed in its totality was a class film and fully justified its selection as one of the hundred best films of all time. But the Mani of today would have made a much better film given the same theme. 'Nayakan' had a few scenes where Kamal went completely overboard. Sreeram's cinematography and Ilaiyaraja's riveting music score were the real highlights in the film.
Yes, this excerpt balances it out. The anguish we felt after that Kamal
Hassan's comments - tinging on some callousness, and a retort from Mr.
Muktha, we understand that it is all casual remarks,happenings, events,
circumstances that (may be called fate) brings out the wonderful mixture
of life with all its oddities. Thank you Hindu for bringing this article
within few weeks.
Mr. Maniratnam speaks like a thorough gentleman. I am a regular reader of The Hindu and am also one of the millions of ardent admirers of Mr. Kamal Hasan and of Mr. Maniratnam. It would be great to hear more about the behind the camera story of Nayakan in detail from Mr. Maniratnam.
Thanks to The Hindu for completing the debate circle, at least by publishing this report on the excerpts from the book.
Thanks to Hindu for sharing these excerpts.
It was just wonderful team work of 2 great professionals for all of us to admire & remember after 25 years. And we still have them around to give us good movies!!
Kamal being a Scorpion was just too blunt in his article & Mani's responses if anything else lends credibility to what the actor had said (In Mani's words "as much as I didn’t want to do this he didn’t want me for his film either" & "For most of the film I had complete freedom")
The excerpts shown here provides a small but good insight in the making of the movie. It also shows that both the actor and producer were good enough involved in the movie without making hindrances in its making. It looks that the unexpected success of the movie made it to take ownership due as their own major involvement than as a team effort.
With the three versions of the story i.e. "Hero","Producer", and "Director", it seems the
"Producer" and the "Director" did not have any issues with each other. The "Hero" in the
middle, with all his "good" intentions, seemed to have overplayed his part little too much -
perhaps he thought, with his closer relationship with either of them, he could bring everbody
together. But it does not seem there was enough communication and transparency across all
parties. This could make a good case study for governance and stakeholder relationship
and as well a script for a movie called " Anayakan"!
Kamal is yet to be leveraged in full and I wish his skills are exploited even better. He is the only one in India who can challenge any actor, otherthan offcourse Sivaji. Wish Mani comes out with one more movie with Kamal
What a contrast from the other 2 interviews. Mani shows his class
clearly! It is normal to have a lot of people claim credit for the
success of a movie but it is bemusing to see people blame each other for
the movie despite it being a super success! What really matters is none
of these controversies - history will regard Nayakan as a mile stone in
Indian cinema! All other noises will fade away..
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