Madras might have become Chennai, but the old name lives on in checked cloth, curry powder and a colloquial lingo…
Sixteen years ago, South India's biggest coastal city went to sleep as Madras and woke up as Chennai. Overnight, the city was expected to shed all that its former name — and its colonial associations — stood for. Trains and schools were hurriedly renamed; signboards were swiftly updated; and with a lick of paint and a flick of a brush, cultural and linguistic history was rewritten. Well, almost.
Because ‘Madras' — as anybody who's not merely nostalgic, but also secretly in love with the name will be pleased to note — has managed to survive, to thumb its nose at the enforced name change, by sticking around in the unlikeliest of places…
Globally famous
Call it tartan, plaid or just plain checks, but the hand-woven, checkered, cotton fabric that originated from Madras has wide appeal. Inspired by the Scottish regiment's dress in the region (in the 1800s), Madras checks was quite a fad in the 60s. Today, it might locally be dismissed as ‘lungi checks' (have you ever seen cloth flagged as ‘Madras checks' in Chennai? I haven't…) but globally, this cheerful, colourful cloth routinely gets a glamorous makeover, especially at upscale fashion houses. Interestingly, the checks gained a certain degree of notoriety during the 60s for its tendency to bleed copiously, and with each wash, the garments fashioned out of them took on a new and interesting pattern. People, however, continued buying what came to be known as ‘bleeding Madras'; was it because it was cleverly marketed as ‘guaranteed to fade'?
But the terrace construction that Madras generously lent its name to is, thankfully, unlikely to fade away. Simply called the Madras Terrace, this type of flat-roof construction that originated in Madras, involved placing wooden beams — usually teak — 1.5 to 2 feet apart. Specially made clay bricks, lime-mortar and flat tiles made up the actual roofing, and it was strengthened with a 10-cm layer of broken bricks, gravel, sand and limestone. This ‘concrete' was then pounded in and compacted, cured with limewater and topped off with lime-mortar and weatherproofing. Auroville, as we speak, is said to be reviving Madras terracing.
Trendsetter
There's a slice of Madras that went really far, all the way to the east coast of Scotland, thanks to a school founded to popularise the ‘Madras system' of education. Back in the late 18th - early 19th century, Andrew Bell, a clergyman from Scotland, was appointed chaplain for the East India Company regiments. While educating the children of the soldiers — and to compensate for the acute paucity of teachers — he made the older pupils (monitors) teach the younger ones. This Madras system quickly found favour, with nearly 10,000 schools adopting it by the time Bell died in 1832. Oh, and the slice of Madras in Scotland refers to a school in St. Andrews (Madras College) founded by Bell, to ensure that his system of education survived well into the future.
Closer home, Madras is almost synonymous with the language spoken in the region, the one with a flavour so strong, so distinct that you can sniff it out at a hundred paces… yes, Madras Tamil. Once the preserve of the not-so-well educated, it's now universally fashionable to throw in a few words of the local dialect, at least to show you are ‘with it'. A decade ago, anybody who wished to compile a list of Madras Tamil words just had to talk to a local autorickshawman for half an hour and the job would be done. But now, even children from posh schools casually use some choice Madras Tamil epithets in their daily conversation. The classicists can frown all they want, but this corrupted version of Tamil is very likely to have a fairytale ‘happily-ever-after' ending …
Would any talk of Madras be complete without mention of Madras eye? This nuisance of an infection makes the white of the eye all sore and itchy, and the fair name of the city was dragged into the blood-shot conjunctiva only because the adenovirus that causes it was discovered here back in 1918.
Madras curry powder, however, has a slightly more tenuous connection to the city. A somewhat coarsely ground mixture of nearly 20 spices, herbs and seeds (much like a garam masala mix, with added turmeric and tamarind, fennel and fenugreek), it's practically unheard of, leave alone used in Madras. But for some strange reason, this smartly packaged, pungent mix is much sought-after abroad, and visiting chefs and food lovers have been known to traipse around the markets of Chennai looking for it. Perhaps they should first fortify themselves with a nice, tall Madras drink, a fruity cocktail of vodka, and cranberry and orange juices? As for the rest of us, surely we can take heart in the knowledge that no matter how hard anybody tries, they really can't take the Madras out of Chennai…






Let's strive to enforce Chennai(Madras) in Google Maps/Wikipedia &
enforce Madras wherever possible.
Interesting information highway with opposite energies: In Satya and Bala we've enriched our positrons e.g. Madras/Salem similis in OR, USA (I came across too in my 1980s OR visit). We (e.g. Amar's comments) also spew negatrons tirade on elders' time frozen-ness; unfairly chide our fellow Dravidian brethern for apparent linguistic dilution via influxes. Hey, one has to visit the old age with grace and dignity-I wish I'd be a fly on the wall to eye one's nostalgia then. If one recites Amizhtham (divine nectar) over and over-it echos tamizh after all! Tamizh, just as divine nectar has matured in essence by churning over time; far from being toxic, native'oorugai' (pickle) needs 'exotic seasonings' to enrich the flavour, yeah? Think it over: Of the many outrageous invasions in history why single out English traders? By the way, we're all articulating our viewpoints in poor ol' English (Aangilam)! Oh, where are we with Madras Nalla Madras or even better still Chennai Nalla (Ch)ennai?
Thank You Mr.T.Sathyamurthi for some information about another MADRAS in Oregon. US.Appreciate madras residents here care to contact Mr.Guss Burill and establish contact with him to forge sister cities tie up.Especially readers who inclined to writing to journals take advantage of the information furnished by Mr.T.Sathyamurthi about this other Madras,can collect photos and other informative details and get them published in our Madras to stimulate mutual interest.I am keen to establish contact with interested people in Salem in Oregon and Madras in Oregon to proceed further on this subject.Appreciate if they care to contact me at:kbsundram@yahoo.co.in
I am not very familiar with any of the term related to Madras but Chennai sounds reasonable and has been accepted. This nostalgic feeling of those time frozen older generation will be a think of past sooner than later. Yes, Chennai during 50s,60s and 70s much probably much better than what it is today due to influx across the country. The deterioration of Tamil language usage is largely contributed by Telugu & Kannada speaking population who have no emotional connection to one of the ancient language in this Universe. Wrong usage and ridiculous usage of an ancient language is not something we can trumpet as success! Tamil as a language withstood many, many onslaughts for thousands of years. These wrong usage, ridiculing Tamil language, its relevance will take its appropriate place in the course of history. Rest assured, English will not be there at that point! English is a traders'/business language while Tamil is a divine language!
Most of items associated with Madras are nothing to be proud of.
Unfortunately, many Indian schoolchildren today still have to wear the
tartan-inspired outfits, ties, socks and shoes in the stifling hot
weather. Only a sadist would force small children to wear all these
western items, meant for a colder climate, in the hot summers of
India. There was a reason for our wise ancestors adopting the native
attire of white since white reflects heat. School children should be
outfitted with white Indian pajamas and kurtas with slippers or
sandals. As for the foul language the author associates with Madras,
it is a damn shame that epithets are celebrated as cultural highs.
Chennaites can be truly proud of only two items mentioned in the
article: (1) The Madras terrace and (2) Madras mentoring of younger
pupils by older pupils. Chennai should look to the future by
forgetting its negative colonial associations and celebrating its
positive native past
Hi folks,Reading over and in between, we seem to have a rash of name wars itch and a divided loyalty switch; Madras-Chennai: just as one appears switched on to either, hidden expressions yearn for the other-perhaps, one's secret guilty pleasure I guess!!(Two sides of the same coin situ). Given all this pulaver, a knowledge-driven way forward is an imprompto local Govt supported Madras-Chennai heritage funds for initiating history post-grad students fact-finding research at Madras Uni-fish/dish out all and sundry documents, evidence in India, UK, (even Or, USA too); ensuing dissertations independently peer reviewed for moderation of core facts. Thesis bonafide findings once ascertained, the name put together by mother knowledge no one put asunder. In case of a tie, a referendum is a nice idea-but contentious;we guys are a bit politically polarised lot and not programmed to think outside the box! A clever scientist once put it: to give evidence without proof is a poof! Never ending story
This is with reference to the message posted by Mr.K.Balasundaram on
11th instant. I am sorry I could not respond immediately as I was
away from my home for a few days. I had been to Madras(OR) twice on
my way to some other places. I didn't stay there for a long time and
I don't remember taking any photographs of that town. I was told that
the town got the name 'Madras' around 1902 as many residents there
wanted that name for their town after knowing about Madras in TN.
Another version is that one British Governor of Madras, after his
retirement settled down in that town and he took a special interest
in naming that town as Madras to remember the Madras State that he
served in India. Nothing is very clear about it. The present City
Administrator is Mr.Gus Burril. He is reachable. His telephone number
is 541-475-2344. Fax- 541-475-7061. E-Mail ID is, >>
gburril@c1.madras.or.us<< For any further information, he can be
contacted.
Madrasi is a term used by people in Northern parts of the country to
denote a person from the southern states. Let us call ourselves Indian
from North or south east or west. I have had the humorous task of
people from Goa calling themselves West Indian. East Indians being the fisherman's from Bombay. Incidently met one of the decendents in
American Samoa whose forefathers got stranded on one of the reefs and
stayed back. Coming to the name I do still call Madras as Madras but
I like the word Chennaivaasi.
As you walk through the shops in Osaka or Tokyo, you will pass by sign boards "MADRAS" in bold letters. Before the austerity measures on power consumption neon lights used to flicker through out the night. The Madras shops are leather shoe shops, proudly announcing the origin of the shoe uppers.
Yes indeed everything was good when it was Madras but all things changed from the day it got its name Chennai" which is a wooden block used to stop the speed of speeding chariots in the temples of Palghat.
all the things mentioned in this article need newer versions under the moniker Chennai to
replace madras.
Even though "Madras" still has a sentimental ring as the name of the
city I grew up in, I have to say that the name change to Chennai is
one of the more successful name changes in India. Coinciding with the
IT boom, the new name actually seems hip when uttered by non-locals
compared to their somewhat derogatory use of "Madarasi". While the
trend has always been to move to long-winded multi-syllable names,
Madras actually managed to bring back its compact traditional name
into fashion and even move up the alphabet, which practically no other
name change did. All said, "Madras" is a very foreign sounding name -
most likely of Portuguese origin (Madre de Dios). And it's not like we
quite figured out the right way to actually pronounce it - to the
local it was always "Med-rass", and to the non-local it was
"Madaraas". I see mostly pros so far with the name change. The main
con is having to cringe when you hear chen-nAAI (red dog, anyone?).
Of late the Hindu is rendering a great service to the land and people,thanks to the new editorial policies and programmes.Its liberal allotment of space to express our comments on any issue for or against from the readers,more inspiring and illuminating than the News itself.The Hindu takes the role of shaping the thoughts and attitudes of its readers by allowing freedom to express ourselves constructively on issue concering the individual or the Country. Of course a great service to the society and a real eduction of like is now being initiated and instituted.Real education has just began for good for the Society and the Country.Keep this up for the good of all as well.
If I am nor wrong IIT Madras is still called or at least known that way only. But most certainly the major road from Bengalooru to Chennai is still called and painted all over as OLD MADRAS ROAD only. You can not take Madras out just as bangalore is likely srvive a millinneum even as Bengalooru is there officially.
Usha and others:
With due respect: Madrasis [as used in north] is NOT meant to and IS
NOT derogatory.
I had enough Tamil / south Indian friends who called each other
Madrasis all the time.
Other term used was : Khatta - yes :) Big deal ..Nobody ever
complained. We all had a wonderful time growing up together.
There's no need for unnecessary political correctness in everything.
Isn't it Madras Airport is still coded MAA?
I am in Chennai since 1996. I can say one thing w.r.t chennai - Nobody in Chennai speaks Tamil any more. They all speak Tamlish or Engtam. The way english words are replacing normal tamil words, it is not fa off when Tamil will totally disappear. The following list gives a list of normal tamil words not being used and the englsh words used by all and sundry
Neram - colour
manikoor - hour
Rathiri - night
kalai - morning
kai - vegetables
tahir sadam - curd rice
chapadu - meals
sadam - rice
Nobody uses tamil words for colours, numericals, days of the week, etc etc. A Tamil mami buying saree will be speaking something like this " Nan nethaikku shopping panninen and red saree with greeen border vanginen".
During kutchery season you will find everybody speaking in english. In tamil TV channels all are struggling to speak in tamil.
Today's Reality Tamilish for small talk and English for serious discussion
The author's brilliant narrative is timely; a dream come-alive highlight touching the hearts and minds of millions of like-minded Madras-ites. Ms JJ supremo clever clog, perfectionist-administrator should go a step further; restore not just the Fort St George (Kottai) but the magical 'Madras' name itself. Tamizh/telugu/pallava kingdoms ruled this small seaport shifting ethnic/lingual boundaries over the time warp; but closer to British East India Co's arrival, the fragmented gazetted documents (UK archives) suggest that Chennapa had formally secured the (Marina) beach for East India Co's landings after its forfeiture by a head fisherman called Mathiarasan (spelt Madirasan in records)- Can one reconcile this as to why the then anchoring East india Co fondly named this port-'Madras' a shortnym tamizh phonetic (thank goodness not fanatic) after all-'OH for the Madras' "nostalgites". Before time & since my birth - thou will be Madras nalla Madras forever-thathasthu or Amen (so be it)
i think so and we all have a universal flavour--madrasi--and chenniate may eveutually replace it --remember not long ago in 95 when i visited delhi where i knew a very few words in hindi--i was alteast called madrasi--
for me personnaly one sad thing is Madras University was replaced by MGR University for Medical Colleges.
To all those who complain about the name change to Chennai, be happy the city was not
named "Anna Puram" - just look at the number of "Anna" in the city - Anna Nagar, Anna
Airport, Anna Salai, Anna University, Anna Square, Anna Institute of Management, etc. For
all its colonial glory, "Madras" was losing its place to "Bangalore" (that time). "Chennai"
sounds lot like "Shanghai" and is more global than old style "Madras". What is wrong in
having a single dominant culture - just go see "Paris".
India need more Madras and world need more Madras. I am a Bombay/Northie but started my career in construction at Madras. Oh the Bus ride from Anna Nagar west to Anna Salai and some of the sites at Thirmudivakkam brings back all the memories. The butter milk and plain dosas with 3 different chutneys. Back in early 90s I was a novelty at my office in Madras. I did manage well with English and picked some Tamil words along the way. It's been 20 years I got to make a trip.I left India but food and time spent with some great folks there and drinking Rum at night with plaintains, bike rides, walking on Marina beach lol, those were good times.
I debated with my co-workers need for building a massive dehumidifier to reduce the heat and humidity in Madras. I did survive after few weeks complaining about heat and humidity. But may be will visit in next life and build a dehumidifier there.
I hate to say Chennai - It's wipping out my memories, golden days of chennai - whenever possible I remain to say Madras, even insist my kids to do so.......I wish that some one will rename it again ..... MUMMY can do......
Madras it is and will be. Who are the morons who changed the name? Why
are we acknowledging that change. We dont need to. Dont talk about it as
chennai. talk about it as Madras, propogate that. chennai will be
relegated to only the govt posters, boards and records. who cares for
some sicko morons.
I was born in Madras and I love Madras. Though I quote many times as Chennai while talking or writing, Madras is still my Madras. But when I read 8-10 hour power cut, my sympathy goes to the people of Madras/Chennai who has the actual patient.Actually it was Chennai pattinam so it is not a great change. Even those days we had no power cut.I am talikng about 40-50 years ago.It is better than Bombay than mumbai or Calcatta as Kolkatta. But I am beginning to love Chennai as it is not a new name for me. Even though we love Madras in 10 or 20 years of time MAA will change to CAA. Long live Madras I mean Chennai.See it is all our habbits. Get used it people. May be I am the oldest Madras born and will never change from my passport as lang I live.
still i love to call as MADRAS
Two towering institutions at Chennai have not changed their names to my knowledge. The Madras Christian college and The Madras School of Social Work. There must be Some reasons for that.
THE word 'Chennai' is actually not of Tamil origin, it is of Telugu origin. The name 'change' done by Karunanidhi or DMK is quite understandable, given their own roots. A progressive state govt would shift the state capital to central area of Tamil Nadu like Thanjavur to decongest Madras and not be bothered which word the Newspapers use to refer to Madras city.
During the tenure of AIADMK, the late CM Mr. MGR proposed to shift the capital Tamilnadu from Madras to nearby location in Tiruchy, like Gandhinagar in Gujarat. Because he thought the capital of a state should be in the centre so as to enable all people to come to the capital in time. Being the north most of Tamilnadu, people from southern/western districts face much difficult to come over to Madras. For some reasons or other, the proposal suggested by MGR was washed away. The state government may take necessary step to implement MGR's proposal.
Madras it is for the educated, elite, liberal and cosmopolitan which is your average reader of The Hindu. If the same article had appeared in any of the Tamil dailies, the 'Chennai' gang would have got 'offended'. I like the fact that MAS is the railway code for Madras Central. and mercifully IIT Madras retains its name :-)
Madras has got another sister city named Madras in Oregon,US.Madras and Madrasis resonate with sweet memories.Rose can be called any other name too.So Madras can be called Chennai too.Will Mr.T.Sathyamurthy send some photos of Madras in oregon state which he mentioned in his comment to the editor,the Hindu,so that we can establish contact with our sister city-Madras in Oregon State.USA.Similarly,Oregon State can boast to have another sister city named Salem, as we do have our Salem in Tamilnadu too.
In 2008, I was waiting to receive an admit letter from an US university. The address was all correct, except for 'chennai'- the person who wrote the address thought it to be China and left away including 'India' following the city name. the letter traveled to china and got back to our singara chennai. :-)
The term "MADRASSI" will no longer be valid in North as a generic term to denote all
South Indians! Now they have to distinguish!
Fortunately University of Madras and IIT Madras retained the names sensibly - it is
hard for people holding degrees there- if they change them to some
unpronounceable Tamil names!
A very interesting article. I am from Kerala, but I studied at madras and also was in service
At madras. For variety of reasons, the names of various places have been changes and
That action was done to respect the sentiments of people. I respect those sentiments and
we also should appreciate the action of the governments on this issue. I will never forget
The roots by the change of name. MADRAS/ CHENNAI has a place in my heart, as long
As I am alive. C.P.Chandra Das, now from AMERICA.
No matter what you do with names I will call and Write Madras as Madras,Bombay as Bombay,Calcutta as Calcutta ,Pondycherry as Pondycherry,Ooty as OOty,Trivendrum as Trivendrum.
Change me if you can!
It is whatever we want it to be. To me it is still Madras. Not sure for
the current generation though.
Nice article! Indeed a very good title too "Madras Nalla Madras".
As the title says it all.
I am a fifth generation person living in MADRAS.
To my knowledge MADRAS is a fond name for the southern states.
As they were part of MADRAS Presidency.
I would be happy if the administrative name is also changed back from
Chennai to MADRAS.
People all over India not just TN recognize Chennai as 'Madras' only.the
term 'Madrasi' to refer to its residents is still there in Karnataka in
the south and the Northern parts of India.MADRAS is MADRAS whatsoever
name it gets whosoever changes it!.Who can forget Madras presidency with
all its majesty in the name itself.Long live MADRAS.
we have lost a lot by changing the old names. History is lost. Old cliche' "those who forget the history is condemned to repeat it" is very apt here. Height of folly to change the historical names and facade of the historical buildings. In countries like France, You can not change the face of the old buildings, no matter what you want to do inside to modernize it. I was born in Madras Kalyani hospital, and it will be Madras for me till I breath my last!
Mr. Robertson, you have said onthing wrong. Cho Ramaswamy - the veteren cine comedian - is a person who salutes the Rajapaksha's group. It is shame for Chennai to have such a person as a citizen. In fact, he is no longer a tamilan at all.
Our politicians are more fascinated towards dummy claims like changing names from Madras to Chennai, Mayavaram to Mayiladuthurai etc. Net result of achievement from changing name is waste of expenses towards painting all name boards,names of roads, printing of new letter heads etc. No way it helps the community or people. Let the rulers of our country focus on productive thinking for the benefit of the citizens and development of our nation on the whole instead of playing gimmicks of name change.
Madras beef curry..anyone?? Its strange that I came across this Cuisine
in an English restaurant in Brisbane, Aus. The name surprised as much as
the ingredient per se - beef, as I firmly believe that Madrasi's are
more into Chicken and Mutton. What say??
Unlike old cities like Madurai.. Chennai/Madras is a relatively new city... started with cluster of villages and now more villages are getting added. The name could have come from Chennappa naicker. Or could also be from ChennaKesava perumal/ChennaMalleshwarar exactly in Paris- center of old city.The twin temples are also believed to be earlier present where the Highcourt is located right now.Many places in Chennai have names because of temples ambattur(50th i believe Sakthi sthalam),Ramapuram,Nandambakkam,sridevikuppam(all three because of Lord Rama), Mogappair(maga peru- child), Mudichur(mudichi... temple related to marriage)... the list goes on. So we cannot blame MK.Because he is in an atheist party he normally gives some reason to suit his party but may be doing for other reasons ...like removing Srivilliputhur tower image from bus tickets(ppl stamp their foot on it after it is thrown) in the name of secularism but without removing it from TN emblem.
I support the city being identified as Chennai officially.
The word Madras has become an integral part of the culture of the people
from Madras. The area within the old city limits encompassing fort St.
George, George Town, Royapuram can be named Madras retain the old
glorious past.
MGR's movie ENGALTHANGAM, MGR sings madras nalla madras, one guys advises MGR not to sing madras nalla madras, and advises MGR to sing Tamil Nadu nalla Tamil Nadu
I could never understand why that seen was included in the movie, why was it considered offensive to sing madras nall madras in early 60's any one has any explanation ???
To me changing the historical names of cities is a blunder committed on
the city itself. Madras to Chennai, Ooty to Udhagamandlam, Culcutta to
Kolkotta and Orissa to Odhisa and the like.
thatz true :) good article
I introduce myself as madrasi than Chennaivasi ...
I feel madras is more known and suits a city than Chennai .
chennai sounds more of K family and dirty politics
Name changes are a ghastly thing to do... especially for cities... but, politicians in our country (but not limited to ours!) have few other things on their mind...
Anyway talking about Madras, I remember seeing Madras marked out as Mylapur (or something to that effect) in an ancient world map (in a Dutch Museum)...
I like Madras and am thankful that the University and few other places to note continue to go with the name...
KK ought to be "Karupu Kannadi"
Cheers
Will Shri T.Satyamurthi in Oregon,US who mentioned about Oregon Madras,post some photos and with a write up to the Hindu to help forge a link with its sister city in th US.If you do this,our worshipful mayor Saidai Duraiswamy will pursue further for a tie up with other Madras in Oregon. I have been trying to contact people there,but in vain.Will the Hindu reader do some pioneering work in this regard?
London is Londres in French. Moscow is Moskva in Russian. Dublin is Baile Atha Cliath in Irish.....and no one objects! Chennai in Tamil and Madras in English (in fact it is from Madrasa - Urdu/Arabic) should have continued. Petty-minded chauvinist politicians to gain media limelight issue such diktats (Madras must be hitherto referred to as Chennai in all the languages of the world!) without a referendum. Shame!
Our family moved to MADRAS from Karaikudi in the year 1960.
The first Automatic signal at Egmore over bridge was a wonderful
sight.
The Madras then was a great place to live and recently I watched some
of the old pictures of MADRAS sent by a friend of mine and my memory
took me back to MADRAS of 1960 and 1970.
MADRAS BY NIGHT a great Stage Play was a phenomenal Hit by
Author/Director and critic CHO Ramaswamy.
MADRAS will be MADRAS for ever.Political interests may change the name
but can not erase memories of MADRAS
Kindled the memory and took me down the good old days. Good nostalgic article. If I'm right, anyone from south is called as 'Madrasi' in the north. As Mahadeesh mentioned, its usage has come down to a great extend. There are many iconic places still associated with the name 'Madras'. 'Chennai' is for administrative purpose and Madras is for people like us. I enjoy the 'Madras'.
@Raja,
You said, "This is no way comparable to Bombay becoming Mumbai."
For your information, Bombay was always colloquially referred to as Mumbai among Marathi-speaking people, historically. Hence, it was almost redundant that Bombay's name was "officially" changed to Mumbai, because it did not make any difference to Marathi speakers. Just thought I'd share this tidbit.
Also, from what a friend of mine told me long time ago, the roots of the name Bombay are in Portugese (who, I think, were the original founders of the area)...apparently, 'Bom' means "good" or something to that effect, in Portugese. Not exactly a British colonial remnant...this is from memory....need to recheck facts on Google/Wiki.
Well, not only the Madras High Court, other names like Madras Medical College and IIT-Madras still continue, thankfully. By the way, the M in MTC does not stand for Madras. It is the Metropolitan Transport Corporation.
Madras or Chennai, let us continue to love our city.
Though I am a keralite, I love Chennai very much..I love the idly sambar, the filter coffee..no where else u will get the taste..love u dear Chennai
Wow... nice article... Madras is Madras.... the name which has
resonated during the childhood days still lingers on. who can forget
the Madras Curry Powder, Madras checks and what not...
The reason for Chennai to catch up fast like Madras was that the name
"Chennai" was used in the Tamil language, whereas the name "Madras"
was used in the English language.
The picture that accompanies this story is that of the University of
Madras. University of Chennai anyone?
How could one forget the elite Indian Institute of Technology, Madras? Imagine calling it IIT Chennai! Doesn't ring a bell of the institute's fame for sure.
To the patrons of the "What's in a name" school of thought, there is indeed a great deal in a name.
To add to these reminiscent thoughts, I like to convey that people from
tamil nadu are still called as madarasi
Chennai / Madras - whatever you call it, has arrived, with its unique
blend of traditions and modernity. From TIDEL Park to Hyundai Verna,
Kolaveri Di to AR Rehman, Music season to the Other festival, Eden to
Karpagam mess, Express Avenue Mall to Ranganathan street, the city
does leave its stamp across the country.
The city has assimilated people from across economic strata, and from
across India reasonably well. One has not seen major outbreaks of
violence directed at religious or linguistic minorities. Yet the
image of Chennai is that it is a conservative city, bordering on being
chauvinistic.
Can the city feel secure that it has place in the sun (so very true)
and shed its chauvinistic image, and rebrand itself.
Although comparisons are drawn between Madras and the anglicized names of Tinneveli, Majura, Tuticorin, etc., it is important to note that the name "Madras" is of portugese origin, and is as much of a link to the past of the city as the word "Chennai" itself. If it is history of Chenna pattinam we are remembering, lets remember all of its history.
I love to call it Madras not Chennai.
Madras Race Club ( MRC) in Guindy is not going to change its name to Chennai Race
Club, I bet.
Well written article...A nostalgic one indeed !
The name Madras I would say, is a souvenir from the British days. In this day and age of global connectivity, one might as well feel proud to be associated with such a historic city, had it remained the good old Madras !
Can one of the erudite Hindu readers or the venerable historian Mr.
Muthiah please enlighten me about the origin of the name Madras for our
beloved city? I have been unsuccessful in getting an answer to this
question so far.
Every time when a name change is made to a metropolitan city, it would be nice to involve the public by having a referendum. Madras, despite its colonial affiliations, is pretty awesome, cool, and the first word on everybody's lips than Chennai.
Chennai goes fine but any day, any time, I would go for Madras without batting an eyelid!
This city, Chennai, was always named as Chennai in Tamil for centuries even in daily use. Before this official name change even the State Transport buses have had Chennai always. I don't know why the media is writing that "Chennai" is a new name. No, not at all.
This is no way comparable to Bombay becoming Mumbai.
@Vamsi - MTC stands for Metropolitan Transport Corporation :)
The road from Bangalore to Chennai via Krishnarajapuram is still called Old Madras Road
A chieftain,named Chennappa Naicken,sold to the East India Company the piece of land on
which the Company built Fort St George-that is what we learnt in the history class.But how did
the name Madras come about for the town that grew around this Fort? I believe that there
are places by the name Madras both in the British isles and in the New England regions of
US.Can someone throw some light on this?
Some institutions like the University of Madras, the Madras Regiment of the Indian
Army......may never replace the word Madras with Chennai unless these risk the great loss of
all the grandeur that they have built for themselves in the last century and half.
I believe that CocaCola has introduced in Japan ,with great success,instant
coffee,appropriately given the brand name ' Madras Coffee', served thru coin-operated
vending machines.What better combination can there be for a sure hit than Coke-Madras?
Still, who can deny that the name Chennai is very endearing,indeed?
They still call MMC madras medical college not chennai medical college!!
In todays globalised&global village MADRAS is more apt&applicable than chennai.I feel as a proud "AMBI"thambi of tamil nadu in far off USA that just changing names doesn't alter anything except some intellectually challenged tunnel visioned politicians.
Not only have we lost the brand name "Madras", this name change has wrought a
number of other practical and economic issues that the mediocre politicians who
initiated this move did not have the ability to fathom. Did anybody figure out what
this unwanted name change cost the exchequer? The painting of public & private
signboards, the renaming of trains, airports, office stationery etc. to name a few.
Did I graduate from the University of Madras? Or has it become University of
Chennai? i hope this lunatic trend will stop.
I for one, will ALWAYS call my city MADRAS.
Instead of changing the name of the city, had they worked towards building the needed infrastructure to make the city liveable, that would have been a better challenge. Madras still looks like the sleepy town while the whole of Tamil Nadu has moved into it, lakes have been drained out and Engineering colleges have replaced trees.
The name change from Madras to Chennai was totally uncalled for and was at the whim of one politician. The change in name ignored the colonial origins and history of the city, the pride of place it enjoyed in education (which was a British legacy) and the many institutions that personified the city with the prefix 'Madras'. Chennai does not carry any of those glorious connotations. To me the city will always be Madras (and my passport too mentions my place of birth as Madras) and nobody is going to get me to refer to my city by any other name.
By recounting the un-forgettable memories of "Madras" of days of
yore, Aparna Karthikeyan has touched the strings in the hearts of
old lovers of Madras!That was the only "Pattinam"(City)in the
erstwhile map of then Madras Presidency, stretching from Vizag
district on the north-east and Mangalore in South Kannada on the
West coast!Almost everyone for some reason or other had to go to
Madras for some purpose or other! The High Court,the Marina
Beach,Museum,the zoo,the Race Course,Harbour,Film studios, cricket
stadium, Moor market,the Secretariat,the University and Medical
colleges, Law college, were there! It was impossible not to be lured
by Madras!
Madras was for Rajaji, Kamaraj, Annadurai
Madras was for Nagesh, N.S.Krishnan, Cho
Madras was for Madras Christian College, Loyolo, Pachiappa, Stella
Madras was for Clean Marina, Santhome, Theosophical Society
Chennai is for Karunanidhi, Stalin
Chennai is for Law College rowdies
Cheenai is for PowerCuts, Contaminated watet, Fleecing Autos
Need I say more ?
I am living in Portland(OR)USA. Nearby is a small town that goes with
the name 'Madras'. Whenever I visit that place,I become nostalgic and
feel sad that we could not call the premier city of Tamilnadu any more
as 'Madras'. Even many denizens of Madras(OR) feel proud in having a
sister city in India, completely unaware of the name change that the
Madras in India has now. At least to keep track of history, the area
around Fort St.George could have been renamed as 'Madras'. Historical
names and places should not be obliterated. Instead, they should be
protected and maintained for the knowledge of the posterity.
The famous University is still known as MADRAS UNIVERSITY or UNIVERSITY OF MADRAS
From the Madras regiment to the Madras Institute of Technology (MIT), Madras will always retain its name. The historical Chennai Pattanam was in any case a very small area of a few square miles. It became Madras under British rule and expanded far and wide incorporating many villages in all directions. It also became multi cultural. Madras denotes a cosmopolitan city which is why it will always retain both its name and charm.
To me it never changed to Chennai! Madras it will be!
Madras Medical College briefly anointed itself Chennai Medical College, before reverting back to the age-old M.M.C. (in Tamil, it's Chennai Maruthuva Kalloori, though!). And the University of Madras will bear the banner of good ole Madras across generations of future graduates to come. Lovely write-up, enjoyed it a lot. Thanks!
The word MADRAS will linger for another thousands of years, Karunanidhi's DMK Govt went ahead to rename madras as Chennai after a terrible pressure from Tamilkudimagan (Former speaker of TN Assembly)
Though Murasoli Maran was against it and failed in the end in his bid to thwart renaming Madras as Chennai.
I often say that Madras is my home town. But at the same time as a kid when studying Tamil, the city was always known as Chennai. I guess there is a bit of history to both the names and thats what makes this city special. A kind of dual character to it..but changing and enforcement of this kind of name change purely due to political reasons reeks of corruption and filth that 'modern india' has begun to represent. There is no more innocence about the city..I wish the city had two name instead of one because i for one, like them both. And its part of our culture which we need to learn to be proud and cherish. after all how many cities in the world have two completely different names?!!
I spent my childhood in a town, Nellore, which itself had its name changed to Sri
Potti Sriramulu Nelluru and I have no complaints about it. However, there is one
location which used to be a bus-stand for all the buses that go towards Madras. In
the last 20 years, three new major bus stands have come up and that place it self has
become a fresh vegetable market, sans a bus stand, but the name still remains
"Madras Busstand". And in the Bay Area that I live today, there is a "Madras Cafe",
where I do not miss to have a "MAdras Philter Kaafi" at least once a week.
I grew up in Triplicane, Madras. I cannot avoid using Madras as my home town. For me, Chennai is like an unknown place! From the sixties to early eighties, I spent my college days and my early work life. The author has highlighted several unknown facts of Madras. I certainly miss my 'Madras Nalla Madras'; the soul of Madras has gone in Chennai.
Just adding more,the highcourt is still called Madras High Court.MTC is not changed to CTC. For me the name, Madras is a little reserved and conservative in nature, where as Chennai signifies the cosmopolitan nature and expressiveness. But compared to other cities which are renamed, Chennai caught up good and many people are aware that its Chennai now. This is due to a total name change rather than slight changes like Calcutta to Kolkata , Bombay to Mumbai and Bangalore to Bengaluru.
Madrass-style of clothing is widely available in US and Canada. I am seeing more checkered shorts and other clothes are sold as Madras Shorts etc. Good article. Thanks.
Lots of people also used to refer Madras (now Chennai)in those days as
Chenna Pattanam. The name Madras was liberally used by people who used
to converse in English. The same people also used to refer Tinneveli,
Majura, Tuticorin and so on. I like the name Chennai for various
reasons.
How true that we cannot do away with 'MADRAS'.(Madras checks, Madras
Tamil or Madras curry powder). Well written and enjoyed the lines
relating to Madras Tamil.Good nostalgia of my home city.
Yes. Madras is Madras. I remember very vividly the garden city of Madras in the 60s and the popular handloom shirts.
Of course you cannot take Madras out of Chennai and yes, you cannot bring Chennai into Madras , either.
To this reader, Madras will always remain Madras, no matter what the administrators call it.
Wish the author had mentioned the great 'thambis' of Madras Engineer Group (MEG), also fondly called the Madras Sappers. Ironically, their headquarters are in my hometown, Bangalore. Every time this reader passes by the Sappers' base near Ulsoor Lake, his heart swells with pride that his hometown is associated with a set of brave and innovative men, going back to almost 200 years.
One also hopes the author had mentioned the rather derogatory term 'Madrasi' used esp. in parts of North India (although with the advent of cable TV and mass migrations nationwide, that usage has receded).
The International Airport Code is still MAA (for Madras).
And who can forget the famous "Madras Filter Coffee"?
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